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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gruntz, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. In End Game Story we know that Maul survives but in my headcanon Legends Darth Maul died in Old Wounds Comic for me TCW Events dont happen in Legends and Maul never show up in the Clone Wars and in Old Wounds Maul hadn't seen Obi Wan since Episode 1 so this Fits
     
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  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Maul's descendant finally defeats the One Sith with the Rule of Two, with the aid of Darth Talon, who realises Krayt is a threat to the Sith, not the leader she believed. Krayt's return in a Sith Trooper body and resumption of control of the Empire completely soured the idea of a Galactic Empire.
     
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  3. There was not a "High Republic Era" in Legends thanks to the Ruusan Reformation after the New Sith Wars the Republic dont wanted more War they demilitarized their Forces believing they were already safe from the Sith and in 1000 to 32 BBY the Jedi Order that we know from the Prequels was the same during those years in Legends i believe the "Jedi Lords" from the New Sith Wars were Similar to the Jedi from the High Republic Era Jedi from the New Canon Universe but not exactly the same
     
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  4. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    There were 150 Dark Lords of the Sith in Legends

    12 Dark Lords of the Sith originally including Ajunta Pall, Sorzus Syn, XoXaan, Tulak Hord, Karness Muur, Remulus Dreypa, Broodika, Parshol, Vacuus, Darth Andeddu, Barel-Slathborne, Bo Vanda

    Ieldis, Ragnos, Sadow, Kressh, Dakhan, Vitiate

    42 named during the Vitiate era

    10 unnamed in early purge

    Of the Second Sith Empire

    Freedon Nadd
    Exar Kun
    Jorak Uln
    Revan
    Malak
    Traya
    Nihilus
    Sion
    Traya II

    10 unnamed in the Old Sith Wars purge of the First Sith Empire

    Desolous
    Saalo Moorn
    Phobos
    Ruin
    Dark Underlord
    Rivan
    Belia Darzu

    Kaan and fifteen more including

    Kopecz
    Qordis
    Ka’sim
    Shenayag
    Hezzoran
    Orilltha
    Borthis
    Kaox Krul
    LaTor
    Seviss Vaa
    Quillan
    Dromika
    Arkadia
    Malakite
    Daiman

    30 Rule of Two Dark Lords

    Including Bane, Zannah, Cognus, Millennial, Gravid, Ramage, Vectivus, Gean, Tenebrous, Plagueis

    The Galactic Civil Wars

    Sidious
    Maul
    Tyranus
    Vader
    Lumiya
    Caedus
    Krayt
    Wredd
     
  5. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 4

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    Is it weird? Because its just kinda-incest with Ahsoka being kinda his sister/aunt but not really. It also kinda makes sense because of the old joke about Luke and Leia, hell it could explain why Luke never married (that we know of in the current canon).
     
  6. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So from what I got, we have...
    First Sith Empire (from the 12 original Dark Lords to Vitiate to Acina to Vowrawn to whoever up until it splinters and falls)
    Second Sith Empire (from Exar Kun to Revan to Traya)
    Third Sith Empire (from Darth Ruin to Lord Kaan, up until their destruction at Ruusan)
    Fourth Sith Empire (headcanon, short-lived Sith-centric state based around One Sith remnants set around Korriban, unified by Darth Nihl and a short-lived final Krayt revival up until Maul and the Triumvirate knock them off)
     
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  7. Some Clones like Darman,Sev, Alpha-17 joined the Rebellion in Legends just like Rex in the New Canon Universe Alpha-17 can no longer walk but could have helped the Rebellion with Tactics or as a General the Clones dont have Chips in Legends so i would expect to see more Rebel Clones
     
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  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    If only because of the territorial continuity, I took it that the First Sith Empire lasted from 6,900 to 1,000 BBY, myself. An Empire percolated in the northern quadrant for that entire time period until the Battle of Ruusan.

    The Second Sith Empire runs from 4000 BBY to 3950 BBY, until it is absorbed by the Republic (willingly, in the end).

    The Third Sith Empire is founded by Palpatine and periodically caught between the reformation by the Remnant, and the Sith taking back control of the overall Empire. For decades, the Empire and Sith are separated by the Imperial Knights, but the One Sith takes the Emperorship again.
     
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  9. The Hero of Tython is a Female for me just like the Exile Meetra Surik
    Minch who appeared in Star Wars Tales is Legends Young Yoda
     
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  10. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    The lady standing to Mace's left (Right on the picture), is Yula Braylon.
     
  11. Maybe this contradicts what i said before but i think that for me New Canon Luke was celibate maybe he got Girlfriends but i doubt he ever had anything serious like Legends Luke with Mara Jade in The Last Jedi Novel Luke fantasizes about being married with Camie Marstrap Luke Old Friend from Tatooine that tell me that maybe New Canon Luke never was married like Legends Luke or had anything serious with someone

    Lumiya became Vader Next Secret Apprentice after Galen Marek and his Clone
     
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  12. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    During the night in the midst of clean-up operations following the Battle of Coruscant, the "Wizard's Tower" of the Invisible Hand was found somewhat intact in the Works (after crushing the LiMerge Power Building in the process). The General's Quarters section itself was still intact (even the windows in the crash) and recovery team found Count Dooku's entire body (head, body and hands). The body was taken to the Jedi Temple where Yoda, Mace Windu and Jocasta Nu had a private burial for the former Jedi turned Sith Lord, seeking some closure for what had happened. No one else, not even Palpatine, ever found out about this, nor Dooku's body, which was widely believed to have been consumed in the flames of the orbital reentry.
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The TFU II Starkiller isn’t a clone; he’s the real thing that had his memories messed with. A clone died in TFU, as Vader never mastered how to clone a Force User; even the Dark Apprentice was a temporary vessel that would have died.
     
  14. In The Force Unleashed 2 there is an unlockable Art of Vader showing to the Evil Galen Marek Clone the Body of the Original Galen from TFU 1 so the Galen from TFU 2 truly was a Clone who knows what happen to both Clones Boba Fett and Vader both appear safe in the OT events and they dont look worry about the Starkiller Clones anymore maybe they believed that the Good Galen Marek Clone was destroyed but i believe that the Galen Clone simply hide with Juno and lived a Normal Life just like Quinlan Vos did Rahm Kota also actively participated in the Rebellion in Legends but after the Elite Squadron Game he suspiciously disappears and he is never mentioned again
     
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  15. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 4

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    That's a headcanon that actually works.
     
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  16. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Show him the "real" Galen to convince him HE is the clone, while in fact the one shown is so they can break and manipulate the real one into believing he is a malleable clone?

    Hmmm...

    Pity Galen never went to Dantooine and walked through the instant cloning device hidden there like Vader did later on in Galaxy of Fear having to defeat himself, uninjured but armored, in combat.
     
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  17. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    @ColeFardreamer it is the kind of thing I’d see Vader doing. Mentally breaking someone is the starting point.
     
  18. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    I just realised - Galen Marek's purpose is as a proxy to take down Ahsoka, because Vader knows he can't do it himself...

    Or maybe, Vader being Vader, it's being played the other way round, and he's really just catnip for Snips... [face_thinking]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
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  19. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Nah, Vader is training apprentices that intentionally are going rogue to splip out of the Emperors reach so they can unite and raise an army for Vader to use against Sidious one day. Like the Rebellion Galen co-founded... Ahsoka also did that, and others might as well.

    In the end, the galactic civil war is not what we thought it is, it is a Sith Civil War with Vader's Rebellion not even knowing who created it and why and what for!

    That would put TFU2's end in a different light, with Vader captured? Did he intend to get captured and join his Rebellion to lead it? Or did this fail and he had to turn on it to save face in front of the Emperor and give the surviving Rebellion a fighting chance?

    They were taking him to Dantooine, but supposedly he never arrived there rescued by Boba Fett on their trail. Yet what if he did arrive? And never told the Empire about that base? But Fett tracked him and did, so Vader had to have a good reason for his betrayal or time off. Puts things into a different perspective. Especially with Tarkin knowing in ANH that Dantooine is unlikely as a Rebel Base, yet sending fighters to check it out anyway, despite it taking too long for a demonstration of the DS. Tarkin though did not know that it was not one anymore, so if Vader was there he never told him!

    I really really wanna know what Lucas would have done with TFU3... he must have had some idea. Any clues recycled elsewhere? In the AU DLCs maybe with rogue Starkiller romping through the OT locales?
     
  20. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    These two will be interesting since I'm still getting my thoughts out. May adjust later on.

    1) Han Solo's heritage in Canon

    The father that Han talks about in Solo: A Star Wars Story and we appear to be meeting in his latest comic run isn't his biological father. Rather his parents were Jonash and Jaina (the Elder) but they died shortly after he was born and the man he thought was his father was simply an old friend of his. Reason for their deaths, well zealots wishing to end any survivors of the ancient Corellian royal line of which Jonash was a descendant of a claim through his father Den (the other being Thracken Sal-Solo and his mother but they were protected by too many political interests for the zealots to get near). Han never learnt his true heritage until sometime around 8 ABY in the canon timeline (including the fact his real surname was indeed "Solo". The recruitment chief never realised that he was restoring Han's original birth name to him when he gave him the surname in 13 ABY. Ben never found out because Han kept it to himself as he didn't feel worthy of the claim to a dead throne much like Leia (though Alderaan's crown held more respect than the long-gone and largely disrespected Corellian one).

    2) Pellaeon in ESB (this came up in another thread that there may have been a plan for this to happen).

    Canon: Gilad Pellaeon survived the destruction of the Seventh Fleet and was among the few to escape Lothal after the purgills wiped it out. After making it safely to the nearest Imperial garrison, he was subsequently reassigned to serve as Needa's first officer aboard the Avenger though was demoted to commander as a result. After the Hoth campaign, he was temporarily promoted to command the Avenger before being tapped to command the new Chimaera which was present at Endor (where Ekelarc Yong's Y-wing collided with its upper hull and was destroyed). Chimaera would retreat to Annaj before being recalled to the Core where it served as part of the inner defences of the collapsing Empire and remained loyal to the Grand Vizier despite attempts by Gallius Rax to bring him to Jakku. His present fate is uncertain though rumours abound he and several other Star Destroyers have fallen in with the returned Grand Admiral Thrawn in 9 ABY.

    Legends: After the events of Choices of One, Pellaeon was passed over to command the Chimaera after its first captain's death. Nevertheless a capable officer, he was recommended by Thrawn to serve as Lorth Needa's first officer aboard the Avenger for an amount of time, temporarily demoted to commander and seeing through the Hoth campaign. After Hoth, Admiral Horst Strage brought him back to the Chimaera to serve as both its captain and Strage's second-in-command. This would be where he was during the Battle of Endor.

    Now...discuss!
     
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  21. TFU 2 Galen being a Clone makes more sense in my opinion X1 and X2 were Force Sensitive Clones and fits with Dark Empire Palpatine Clone Bodies and Luke Clone Luuke in the Thrawn Trilogy
     
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  22. Thrawn McEwok

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    That's pretty much one possible version of what I meant by "maybe, Vader being Vader, it's being played the other way round, and he's really just catnip for Snips... [face_thinking]"

    The real question is if we can fit together the roles that Galen and Ahsoka are given in the origins of the Alliance... [face_thinking]

    Not a bad observation at all... though of course, Palpatine may know exactly what Vader is doing... [face_thinking] :eek:

    This... is something I've been thinking a lot about in much the same way... rereading the Thrawn trilogy recently definitely made me think that Pellaeon has substantial experience of serving directly under Vader and the second-in-command of Avenger is a very obvious candidate (did we discuss this before, or are we just being Jungian?)...

    I'd also go with there being two ISDs called Chimaera, in both versions of the timeline - Thrawn's ship was in the Unknown Regions even before Thrawn returned there with Admonitor in "Command Decision", and only returned shortly before Heir to the Empire... the Chimaera II is the ship we encounter in Choices of One, with Pellaeon as second-in-command, which Space Moriarty is tricking his way into command of because it shares its name with Thrawn's own flagship...

    All this recontextualises the reference in Heir to Thrawn's Chimaera having been recently refitted, and about the "former commander" whose entertainment suite Thrawn has now turned into his iconic secondary command room, and who Pellaeon took over command from at Endor - that's Admiral Karyn Faro, former captain of Thrawn's Chimaera, subsequently a senior flag officer in command of the Eleventh Fleet; all of us, including Zahn, just assumed that there was only Chimaera, and that the "former commander" had been aboard the ship at Endor, but that's not what it means at all... :eek: :D [face_thinking]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
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  23. Q'Anilia is the Sister of Visas Marr they are similar Q'Anilia was a Jedi who became a Villain Visas was trained to be a Sith but became a Jedi/Heroine

    Cade Skywalker was the"last"descendant of Luke in Legends i want to believe Cade
    married Deliah Blue i dont know if Zeltrons can have Human Sons but if Cade had a Zeltron Son that Son would be still a Skywalker just they would no longer be Humans i think Cade had Aliens Sons with Blue just like Nat Skywalker Marasiah Fel and Ania Solo are technically Skywalkers so Vader descendants can still be Humans in Legends after Legacy
     
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  24. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Can't remember the thread but there was an attempt to imply since I was coming up with names for unnamed characters and Avenger's first officer was high on my list for the second round.
     
  25. Someone said here before that Mara Jade is Kinman Doriana Daughter and i like that Theory i think makes sense and is part of my Headcanon