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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gruntz, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. YoungSmitty2

    YoungSmitty2 Jedi Knight star 1

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    This idea comes from HandofThrawn45, a fanfiction author who operates on FF.net and AO3 and has spent the past four years or so writing stories about the old Expanded Universe to wrap up threads left open from various stories such as Legacy, the Dark Times, SotJ, etc. But this one comes from an alternate TFU3.

    Galen Marek (the real Galen) died onboard the Executor, murdered by Vader. However, the way he was brought back and the reason why was for the Emperor to use his body as a lab rat for his Essence Transfer technique. And what better way to try it out than on the dead body of a secret apprentice by his not-so-loyal apprentice. So the apprentice who wakes up on the Empirical is a clone but with the soul of Galen transferred into him. As for the clone of Galen in TFU2, well... you'll have to read The Force Restored to find out ;)
     
  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I do rather headcanon that the 90% of the NRDF that was scrapped was primarily captured Star Destroyers, many of which were simply transferred back to local sector fleets. The remaining 90% included very few captured Star Destroyers - the Rebel Dream, Allegiance, Protector, Taanab Sunrise and Corusca Rainbow, and is primarily MC80s and MC80Bs.

    MC85s are decommissioned, and the Fourth Fleet is made up instead of MC90s, Republic-class Star Destroyers and Belarus-class cruisers. The Fifth is made up of the New Class; Nebula, Endurance, Majestic etc.

    The ‘Sixth Fleet’ is made up of Bothan Assault Cruisers, Proficient-class cruisers, and Ranger-class gunships, as well as Rejuvenator-class Star Destroyers. The RSD is essentially an ISD variant, much like how the Republic-class is a VSD variant and in some parlance simply called a VSD. See; Admiral Ackbar, and probably the Welmo Darb.

    While the go-to escort cruiser changes from fleet to fleet, the Nebulon C Corona-class frigate and its variants was the primary generic frigate workhorse of the Navy.

    Much of that 90% is destroyed during the Vong War but Leia and the Insiders/Resistance work to reunify those forces. The Mon Calamari contribute MC75, MC85 and MC95 prototype variants to the galaxy, keeping to the Coruscant Accords by making one of each.

    The GADF starts as an amalgamation of New Republic and Imperial designs, before developing its own Mon Calamari and Imperial carrier variants of Star Cruisers and Star Destroyers.

    The GA First, Second and Sixth Fleets are evenly split between Star Cruisers and Star Destroyers, while the GA Third and Ninth Fleet are primarily Star Cruisers and GA Fourth and Fifth Fleets are primarily Star Destroyers. The GA Fleets however are considerably smaller than the traditional NR fleets, with twenty Star Cruisers/Destroyers each, but likely many more escorts.

    This does mean that many systems are able to construct equivalent fleets and challenge the GA.
     
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  3. Revan was in his Mid or Late 30s Bastila was in her Early 20s Jolee Bindo was in his 60s and Malak was in his Early 30s in KOTOR 1

    The Original Marvel Comics are Canon to Legends since Lumiya and Cronal debuted first in those Comics
     
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  4. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Moff Yittreas is Umbaran


    The New Republic fleet is the largest defense force in the galaxy, but nevertheless a fraction of what it was during the Clone Wars.

    - TFA visual dictonary

    I doubt all of the earlier remnants combined were as militarily strong as the FO in 34 ABY (and keep in mind that this qoute is from a point in time where the NR Military has been weakened by internal sabatoge from FO sympathizers in the senate)

    Similierly, my headcanon is the Maul Clone in Resurrection (part of my personal headcanon) was anouther test of essence transfer, created using memory engrams and genetic material taken from Maul while he was imprisoned in the Spire.
     
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  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    After Zsinj died, Admiral Llon Banjeer sought refuge in the Pentastar Alignment, and led the Alignment forces into the Core as one of the six ‘former starfleet commanders’.

    This logic I suggest because his influence was within the Carrion Sector, inside the Alignment, and where his nephew became a governor.

    The Alignment didn’t close its borders to the Empire until after Ord Cantrell fell.
     
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  6. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Her experience with the bota in the Med Star Duology probably influenced that.
     
  7. GrandMoffTrachta

    GrandMoffTrachta Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Did Sith Luke ever even do anything that evil during Operation Shadow Hand?
     
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  8. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He did'nt really do anything at all; as far as falls to the Dark Side go, it was pretty lame.
     
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  9. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    In Legends, like in the High Republic era in Canon, the Republic can have Co-Chancellors.
     
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  10. Morgoth333

    Morgoth333 Jedi Padawan

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    In the Plagueis novel, that actually was the initial plan before Palpatine killed Plagueis on the night he was elected Chancellor, for the two to run together as co-chancellors, which at the time seemed like a weird thing since we had never heard of such a thing being possible. With the new canon introducing the concept of co-chancellors, it now kind of makes more sense why they were considering the idea of running together as co-chancellors, because there was precedent for such a thing in the High Republic era.
     
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  11. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    [​IMG]

    I know this is Dawn of the Jedi promo art with no characters from the actual DotJ era.. even though the guy looks closest to maybe Cade Skywalker or adult Ben/Kol Skywalker.

    I could understand if one headcanons them to be Cade Skywalker and Ania Solo... for Legends.

    But I choose to headcanon that this is Cal Kestis and a human version of Merrin freed of her darkside chalky-ness in skin and hair.
     
  12. Darth Bane in Legends its one of the most Unselfish Sith Lords ever since he wanted the Sith Order to Survive beyond him he believed that a Sith Lord living Forever was Unrealistic

    Darth Plagueis in Legends Lost because he truly cared about Palpatine and wanted to share Power with him i think Plagueis saw Palpatine as a Brother or Son Plagueis unlike other Rule of Two Sith Lords dont wanted to kill his Sith Apprentice
     
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  13. The Han Solo Quote "By the Minions of Xendor" is a Reference to Xendor of the Legions of Lettow

    Rey "Palpatine" Skywalker wanted to learn more about her Family Tree and found that Sheev Palpatine Father was Cosinga Palpatine

    If in Legends Palpatine Won in Dark Empire he would have Created an Empire to Rule the Galaxy similar to the First Order while the Dark Empire would Invade other Galaxies maybe trying to Stop the Yuuzhan Vong first
     
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  14. In Disney Canon Borsk Fey'lya also exists and the reason why the New Republic is so incompetent and Corrupt in Disney Canon is because Borsk Fey'lya has a lot of Influence in the New Republic of the Disney Universe

    For me the Legends Universe Represents the Daughter of Mortis the Light a more Positive Future for the Skywalkers while the Disney Canon the Son Represents the Darkness the most Tragic Future for the Skywalkers
     
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  15. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I never really considered Borsk Fey'lya corrupt. He's just a typical Bothan. And from what I can tell, the clan politics and the need to stay ahead of the game is all that mattered to him.
     
  16. Maybe Disney Canon Borsk Fey'lya is Worse
     
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  17. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We'd need to meet an actual Bothan in canon.
     
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  18. Freaky Mutant Man

    Freaky Mutant Man Jedi Knight

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    It's been like, nearly a decade and it still hasn't happened - I really have to wonder if they've actually been sitting on something they still don't want to show yet for this long or if something weird happened. As far as I know, the comics still haven't advanced past the ESB time period, and there aren't any other upcoming projects I know of that seem like they would have to show us what a Canon Bothan might look like (i.e. anything that might address the "many Bothans died" incident) - RotJ FACPOV, maybe, but IIRC the FACPOVs are supposed to be kinda loose canon-wise anyway. (Though I do also recall that at least one FACPOV author was explicitly not allowed to use Bothans when they wanted to?)

    Do we actually have any clue what's up with Bothans in Canon? I vaguely remember the idea being floated that Bothans might not even be aliens at all, but that was, like, reading into a tweet from Hidalgo or someone else. It can't possibly be anything crazy enough to "warrant" a near-decade wait - I have to wonder if there was a bigger project in the works that was supposed to show Bothans earlier that just did not end up materializing, wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
     
  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Bothawui itself is Canon via TCW, but yeah, it's a leetle odd.

    Headcanon; Admiral Jeratai was promoted to replace Admiral Kiez.

    If only because Jeratai has ZERO backstory so he seems like a new addition.
     
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  20. When Boba Fett used his True Name many believed that Boba was a Jango Fett Impostor and that he used the Jango last name and a Mandalorian Armor to gain Fame thats why Boba used the name of Jaster Mereel for a while to separate himself from his Father Shadow
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Sate Pestage died on Byss.

    The Jax Coup killed Imperial Advisors Verpalion and Vandron.

    Ars Dangor either died on Byss, died to Jax’s coup, or lived to serve Fel III. A headcanon encouraged by @GrandAdmiralJello’s portrayal of Ars once upon a time in an RPG.
     
  22. In Legends we know in the Darth Plagueis Novel that Palpatine had Brothers and Sisters but well one Sister of Palpatine was named Rei, Raay or Kira and his Sister was very similar to Rey Skywalker being this Sister the equivalent of Rey in Legends
     
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  23. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    Bothans also had an air of mystery about them in the years immediately following ROTJ - the Marvel comic never showed them, and WEG was conspicuously silent on their appearance, culture, etc. despite having all sorts of opportunities. It wasn't until Heir to the Empire that we finally learned much of anything about them.

    When I was a kid playing the WEG RPG, I imagined Bothans as tall, thin, transparent, and bioluminescent aliens (without too much concern for how difficult it would be for such a species to act as spies - I was following the Rule of Cool before they had a name for it lol). While I wouldn't necessarily go that far today, I do hope canon does something radically different and cool with the Bothans when we finally encounter them, which might not be too far away as the comics continue working their way toward ROTJ.
     
  24. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So, for fun (ugh, what's wrong with me?) I assembled a list of all the canon Grand Moffs/Moffs and Governers that I could find, along with their corrisponding regions/star systems/planets (or, guesses on what those were). Red indicates those who are'nt from canon, but are instead from sources that are part of my headcanon.

    Grand Moffs and their sabordinate Moffs (as I could assign based on information/logical deduction)
    Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin (Oversector Outer, also Moff of the Greater Seswenna and Governer of Eriadu), commander of the Seswenna Sector Fleet. Controls most of the Outer Rim and de facto outranks all other grand moffs and moffs due to his position as head of the Moff Council.
    • Moff Ryder Azadi/Moff Stattata (Lothal Sector, Azadi was also Governer of Lothal), commander of the Lothal Sector Fleet.
      • Governor Arihnda Pryce (Lothal)
      • Governor Eskil Abon Santhe (Garel)
    • Moff Tan Hubi (Calamari Sector), commander of the Calamari Sector Fleet.
    • Moff Yittreas (Bothan Space, also Governor of Bothuwai)
    Grand Moff Ravik (Tolonda Oversector)
    • Moff Delian Morrs (Ryloth Sector, also Governor of Ryloth), commander of the 14th Sector Fleet
    Grand Moff Lozen Tolruck (Imperial Territory 65-623, also Moff of the Mytaranor Sector and Governor of Kashyyyk)
    • Governor Derantus (Trandosha)
    Grand Moff Randd (The Exterior)
    "Grand" Moff Valco Pandion (self-proclaimed Grand Moff of the "Great Dustig", also Moff of the Dustig Sector and Governor of Malastare), commander of the Dustig Sector Fleet.

    Assorated Moffs
    Moff Kohl Seerdon (Moff of the Bormea Sector, also Governor of Chandrila)
    Moff Gideon (Mandalorian Space, also Governor of Gargon), commander of the Mandalore Sector Fleet. took over after the sector, formally a protectorate ruled by a viceroy, was annexed after the Great Purge.
    • Governor Tiber Saxon (Governor of Mandalore)
    Moff Quarsh Panaka (Chommell Sector, also Governor of Naboo)
    Moff Haveland's father/Moff Haveland (Esaga Sector)
    Moff Ubrik Adelhard (Anoat Sector, also Governor of Anoat and Governor of Bespin), commander of the Anoat Sector Fleet.
    Moff Abran Balfour (Parmic Sector)
    Moff Boyse (Albarrio Sector)
    Moff Pollus Maksim (Kuat Sector, also Governor of Kuat)
    Moff Derrek Raythe (Tapani Sector, also Governor of Fondor)
    Moff Royen (Red Hand Cluster)
    Moff Therbon (Tion Cluster, also Governor of Raxus), commander of the Tion Sector Fleet.
    Moff Bin Essada (Circarpous Sector, also Governor of Gyndine)
    Moff Seward (Atravis Sector)
    Moff Ssaria (Northern Dependencies, also Governor of Castell)
    Moff Doelsor Triggant (Roche Sector)
    Moff Tiaan Jerjarrod (Moddell Sector), commander of the Moddell Sector Fleet.
    • Governer Wilek Nereus (Bakura)
    Moff Ghadi (Tengenine Sector)
    Moff Ecressys (Velcar Sector)
    Moff Callidona Vens (Spirva Sector)
    Moff Jaccun Pereez (Unknown Inner Rim Sector)
    Moff Ahr (Unknown Mid Rim Sector)
    Moff Coovern (Unknown Sector, likely in the Mid Rim)
    Moff Nyall (Unknown Sector)
    Moff Rys Deksha (Unknown Sector)
    Moff Senchiko (Unknown Sector)
    Moff Gorgon (Unknown Sector)
    Moff Keong (Unknown Sector)

    Assorted Governers
    Governor Jerec (Sullust)
    Governor Mage (Allst Prime)
    Governor Brashan (Fedovoi End)
    Governor Bordanivaux (Chadawa)
    Governor Everi Chalis (Haidoral Prime)
    Governor Quesl (Botajef)
    Governor Wistran (Denash)
    Governor Restos (Batonn)
    Governor Estorn (Sammun)
    Governor Sacritte (Jedha)
    Governor Sanz (Kintoni)
    Governor Tautaza (Gabredor III)
    Governor Cor Tophervin (Inusagi)
    Governor Hestemoor/Acting-Governor Fara Yadeez (Triothe)
    Governor Grotton (Desix)
    Governor Striate Cruch (Unknown Planet/System)
    Governor Nasling (Unknown Planet/System)
    Governor Javor Tallensia (Unknown Planet/System)

    Any observations or questions would be welcome!

    [​IMG]

    My headcanon is Fey'lya swept in amid the power vacuum that followed Leia's humilation in 28 ABY and either became First Senator (which he still held as of 34 ABY) or served as chancellor at some between then and when Villechem was elected.

    He was a Populist, of course (albiet one who paid lipservice the their idealogy of the sake of personal power), and was an advocate of a strong defense for Bothan Space that ended up (inadvertently) being instremental in the fight against the First Order.

    Well, these are'nt mutually exclusive
     
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  25. Freaky Mutant Man

    Freaky Mutant Man Jedi Knight

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    Double checked to make sure I didn't misremember, and yeah, this guy is not actually a Bothan despite using a very clearly Bothan design - here's Matt Martin stating as much:

    Something similar happened with one of the comics IIRC, was either Poe or Aphra where a background alien character was very clearly based on a Bothan design, but then someone inquiring about that got a similar response to the above.
     
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