My name-sake was absolutely boots on the ground during the Battle of Coruscant, ripping open droids with his bare (durasteel?) hands.
The Second Imperium, founded by 12 ABY, was also known as the Empire Reborn, a primarily Inquisitor-ran organisation that eventually Darth Wyyrlok took responsibility for. The ersatz Palpatine was a cover for the real Palpatine, unbeknownst to Daala, who would have despised it. The Second Imperium ultimately split into two factions by 25 ABY - the Maw Command and New Sith Order. It was responsible for maintaining the Jedi-Sith War through the Reborn, Disciples of Ragnos and Shadow Academy. Tremayne’s children ended up within the Maw Command as undercover agents.
Addendum; the Second Imperium = Empire Reborn = Final Order. Palpatine just isn’t going to put the name of his grand conspiracy on record within either of them. I have zero doubt that Tremayne and Hethrir would be contacted by Palpatine if he was alive. He’s not the First Order, handing out the name of the super secret plan to militia leaders and Senators!
Additionally, the First Order is Krayt's HYDRA eventually that allows him to take over the Fel Empire. Annihilators are essentially Next-Gen Xystons.
These are less official headcanon more head ideas but: The DP20 gunship Ghorman's Honor was captained by a native of Ghorman. A majority of its crew complement hailed from Ghorman. The 22 ships from the Virgillian Free Alignment brought by Captain Tessa Manchisco to Endor consisted of, 2 Virgillian-crewed Quasar Fire-class bulk cruisers (340 meters), including the flagship Flurry 1 Virgillian-crewed "CR110" * corvette (~160 meters) (the Dukedoom) 4 Virgillian-crewed CR90 corvettes (150 meters) 3 Virgillian-crewed DP20 gunships (120 meters) 2 Virgillian-crewed armed CSS-01 star shuttles (80 meters) 4 Virgillian-crewed "Gallofree gunship"s * (~60 meters) 4 Virgillian-built gunboats (~50 meters) 2 Virgillian-crewed X4 gunships (~25 meters) * ECHenry's designation for the unnamed corvette and pseudo-Dreadnaught rebel starship. Tell me your thoughts.
I suspect the Alliance military represented many species and cultures. We know from the Original Trilogy films that we have: - Mon Calamari (Gial Ackbar, Verrack, Sesfan, Thaneespi, Haash'n) - Corellians (Han Solo, Wedge Antilles, Wyron Serper, Stax Mullawny, Crix Madine) - Socorrans (Lando Calrissian, Cinda Tarheel) - Wookiees (Chewbacca) - Alderaanians (Leia Organa, Tycho Celchu, Vanden Willard, Carlist Rieekan, Dansra Beezer, Tyr Taskeen) - Tatooinians (Luke Skywalker, Biggs Darklighter) - Commenorians (Jan Dodonna) - Chandrilans (Mon Mothma, Toryn Farr, Samoc Farr, Midge, Jobin Fertha/Mothma, Hiram Drayson) - Devaronian Humans (Grizz Frix) - Thyferrans (Arvel Crynyd) - Agamarians (Keyan Farlander) - Virujansians (Garven Dreis, Nichos Panib) - Bestinians (Jek Porkins, Zev Senesca) - Ralltiiri (Elyhek Rue, Jeroen Webb, Derek "Hobbie" Klivian, Pharl McQuarrie) - Taanabians (Wes Janson) - Huulians (Kit Valent) - Kalistians (Dak Ralter) - Coruscanti (Kesin Ommis) - Lantillians (Bren Quersey, Barlon Hightower) - Ord Mantellian Humans (Theron Nett) - Corulagians (Judder Page, Wenton Chan) - Denonians (Puck Naeco) - Dressellians (Orrimaarko, Panno) - Tiisheraanians (Bren Derlin, Beryann Raleg) - Regellians (Nozzo Naytaan) - Onderonians (Jon "Dutch" Vander, Dex Tiree, Tigrin Jamiro) - Dantooinians (Davish "Pops" Krail) - Mandans (Adam Swiftgale) - Erilnarians (Kulbart Zamoon) - Bal Nethians (Evinn Dastt) - Brentaalans (Will Scotian) - Durosian humans (Tarrin Datch) - Circarpousian humans (Gemmer Sojan) - Ishi Tibs - Dorneans - Fondorians (Hosh Hune) - Glovans (Tenk Lenso, Jek Pugilio) - Ord Miritians (Habeer Zignean) - Ahakistans (Vekozev Kabir) - Pa Thoans (Nala Hetsime) - Hargeevans (Stevan Makintay) - Las Lagonians (Tarn Mison) - Toprawans (Sila Kott) - Norvalians (Horton Salm, Keyser Salm) - Contruumians (Airen Cracken) - Sullustans (Nien Nunb, Aril Nunb) - Kesselians - Rendilians (Walex Blissex) - Naboo (Reye Hollis) - Baraan-Ranians (Karie Neth) - Shistavanens (Lak Sivrak) - Lamproids (Dice Ibegon) - Esselians (Tamizander Rey) Add in all others from the Expanded Universe such as Biths, Bothans, Virgillians, Duros, Ithorians, Sedrians, Quarrens, Rodians, Eloms, Elomins, Castrosians, Weequays, Niktos, Zeltrons, Hoojibs, Garosians, Centaresians, Twi'leks, Zabraks and Gotals. Add in the new additions such as Jelucianis and Ilohians. The Alliance was definitely diverse.
Reborn Palps did contact Hethrir per the Hyperspace Aliens of the Empire article. In fact, Hethrir was a fanboy over the whole dark side magocracy idea that he based his Empire Reborn after it.
I checked the TAB Sourcebook and there was no source for what class it is. I saw Dukedoom being identified as a carrier in a list here on the forums.
I can see that. Trachta was a brave, albeit brutal, front-line fighter in his youth. Quite admirable in a way.
Almost works for me, except for Coleman Trebor's seat and Depa Billaba's seat. Spoiler According to Wookieepedia, the book Star Wars: Brotherhood, says Obi-Wan eventually got Coleman Trebor's seat after a short period with several other masters occupying it very temporarily between Coleman Trebor's death and Obi-Wan's elevation. That would therefore mean Kit Fisto is a better candidate for Depa Billaba's seat. Maybe, to fit Jocasta Nu in during 40 BBY, she occupied Gretz Droom's seat again for a very short time in between him resigning and Eeth Koth getting it?
The confusing bit about this is.... Spoiler The Kanan comic shows Obi-Wan GIVING Depa his seat. He literally stands up from it, gestures to it, and she takes it. I suppose it's possible he gave her Coleman Trebors seat but that just feels rather awkward. Maybe there was just a lot of seat shuffling in the first year of the war.
Plaza Theater by me was showing ANH and I got to thinking. I think there is a lot of unaccounted time for Obi-Wan's actions on the Death Star. My head canon is that he ran into Yularian at some point on that and they had a meeting. The event of the meeting were lost to history but Yularian did not report it to Tarkin.
The seating order is identical in TPM and AOTC (except for replaced seats) but it's noticeably different in Revenge of the Sith. Counting clockwise, 1-12, with Yoda as 1: TPM: 1: Yoda 2: Mace Windu 3: Plo Koon 4: Depa Billaba 5: Eeth Koth 6: Yarael Poof 7: Adi Gallia 8: Oppo Rancisis 9: Even Piell 10: Yaddle 11: Saesee Tiin 12: Ki-Adi-Mundi AOTC: 1: Yoda 2: Mace Windu 3: Plo Koon 4: Depa Billaba 5: Eeth Koth 6: Coleman Trebor 7: Adi Gallia 8: Oppo Rancisis 9: Even Piell 10: Shaak Ti 11: Saesee Tiin 12: Ki-Adi-Mundi ROTS 1: Yoda 2: Mace Windu 3: Plo Koon 4: Stass Allie 5: Shaak Ti 6: Kit Fisto 7: Saesee Tiin 8: Coleman Kcaj 9: Anakin Skywalker 10: Agen Kolar 11: Obi-Wan 12: Ki-Adi-Mundi Not sure if that means anything. Brotherhood suggests that the Coleman Trebor seat is a very temporary assignment for everyone given it, without any suggestion that Obi-Wan will be an exception, so perhaps: Spoiler after Depa went into a coma early in the war, Obi-Wan got her seat for the rest of the war, with the assumption that it would be permanent - she came out of her coma very late in the war - he gave her the seat - and after a few days she gave him back the seat, deciding she still wasn't ready to return to the Council full-time?
Seems pretty reasonable. But with so many shuffles I'm probably not updating the list to reflect that. Maybe some other time.
The continuity of who sat when on the Jedi High Council was in chaos long before the new canon began. CW08 never attempted a full council attendance until Lost Missions. By which point, Adi and Even were killed, Depa hadn't been seen at all throughout the show and Oppo finally made an appearance.
At the moment Wookieepedia seems to be going with "Depa got Even's slot, and when she stepped down to train Kanan, Coleman Kcaj got her spot." Perhaps the Kanan comic scene should simply be treated as "Obi-Wan stands up, shows her to Even's empty seat, and sits back down". Since Depa and Obi-Wan were both considered Council Members in Dark Disciple. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jedi_High_Council Presumably (since Coleman Kcaj is also portrayed as having Adi-Gallia's spot as well as portrayed as having Depa's spot) Stass Allie joined the council after Depa stepped down and Coleman was moved.
That is very true, part of the issue involved the fact Legends had an annoying habit of copying and pasting the existing Council into area's they didn't belong (The Stark War having Depa Billaba on the council is one of those moments I consider to be so absurd I chose to deliberately ignore). Then there is the early CW comics that showed COMPLETE rando's filling various seats. And I seem to remember at least one canon comic that mistakenly showed Yarael poof being on the council in the early weeks of TCW. We might assume at least some of these whoopsies can be fillers of Trebor's seat in the meantime. (The Zam Wessel Comic showed THREE other Quermian in the order who look a lot like Yarael Poof.) Incidently the list linked above has been out of date for a while even before this conversation started. Besides missing Jocasta's early entry onto the Council is also doesn't account for Master Katri in Tales of the Jedi. Here is the most updated list from the One Canon Thread (But if Trebors seat really did contain so many people I doubt I will EVER get around to accurately representing it). Oh there are a lot of headache's still to be filled, worth noting in the Kanan comic Obi-Wan isn't shown sitting back down. We never actually see the full council but for the remainder of the scene he is left standing. But still does seem to carry the authority of a Councilor in how is describing the training of initiates. Quite possible he got sent to another seat not long after giving Depa back hers. I like to think he did that without even asking permission to do so. Kind of feels like something he would do. From a one canon perspective I still want a story about how Depa managed to avoid being tried for crimes against the republic. (One I may or may not write myself when I get done with my current stories.)
