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I wonder what Tarkin would have thought about Cinder. It's one thing to target Alderaan, a suspected (at the time) Rebel sympathetic planet, but would he obey orders to target loyalist Imperial worlds, worlds he knew would stand behind the Empire 100%?

 

Katarn is a Kenobi maybe he is Obi Wan lost nephew
The Sith Empire logo become the Republic logo because there was a Sith chancellor before Palpatine maybe during NWS

 

Tarkin's Age of Rebellion comic has him telling the Death Star gunners who hesitated that he would happily annihilate his own world without a second thought. So... yes. He would probably be completely behind Operation Cinder.

 

@Lord Sith Harloxzz i actually assumed the Republic/Imperial bendu resembling the TOR sith emblem was due to the Alliance, which used a merger of both the republic and sith emblems.

 

I think that would depend on whether Palpatine let him in on his plans for the future, and also on whether he thought he could take over himself.

If he knew Palpatine was planning on resurrecting himself and also ensuring the long-term rebirth of his regime under a purified and even more extreme ideology, I can definitely see Tarkin going along with Operation Cinder, and going along with the plans for a new regime. On the other hand, if he thought Palpatine's death left him with an opening to take over the Empire and rule in his place, I could also see him doing that.

 

The clone troopers on Utapau in the RotS DS game were members of Jenks' unit. Jenks commanded one of the 7th Sky Corps' sister corps. Obi-Wan assumed command after he was promoted to the council. Any trooper with AotC-style rank colors that Obi-Wan commanded likely belonged to this corps.

 

The New Separatist Union eventually finds and absorbs The Retreat.

 

Baruche Sloane is Rae Sloane's uncle.

Class 546 Light Cruisers are the same things as Arquitens-class Cruisers - the "class 546" is a Soviet-style "project number" or something like that. So the actual name is something like "Class 546 Arquitens Light Cruiser." The designation "lightspeed cruiser" just means it's a cruiser that's rated to travel at faster-then-light speeds. Also, since Rise of the Separatists says they were "rushed into service upon the outbreak of the Clone Wars" their probably the successor to the Carrack-class.

Casting Smith as a young Palpatine would mean the Doctor would finally get to be ginger

I had a story I started (and then never got back to/has since lost the file of) a while ago that was set in canon and had Roganda plotting revenge on Skywalker for killing Palpatine by having Irek (genderflipped into a girl named "Ireka") infiltrate his academy (my intent was that she would develop a genuine sympathy for the Jedi and end up siding against her mother and legitimately joining them). My intention (because I was trying to prevent future conflicts with canon works) was that Roganda (and initially Ireka) was going to believe she was Palpatine's offspring but whether or not this was a fact was going to ultimately be something that I left up in the air.

Well, she has a funny way of showing it...

I wonder if that might be the explanation behind why the Centrists are so romantically pro-Imperial in Bloodlines - perhaps the post-war remnant just had a Soviet/Warsaw Pact-style breakup at some point and what constituted it either just joined the New Republic (EU) or drifted into the orbit of the First Order (Putin-era Russia)*.

*that or maybe the rump remnant itself just straight-up joined the New Republic at some point?

I'd imagine Tarkin, given how high-up and trusted by Palps he was and how he's sorta implied to be the Supreme Commander as of ANH, was probably in on Cinder, even if he perhaps didn't necessarily know about Palpatine's further plans to resurrect himself; whether or not he would have actually gone through with it or just said he would and then done his own thing instead after (he believed) Palps was "dead", but as Cosmo said he definitely wouldn't have any issue attacking Eriadu.

I've wondered if maybe the Confederacy of Corporate Systems might just be another name for the Corporate Sector Authority (maybe the name of the state itself while the CSA is just it's governing body?), and their rise in Aftermath is just the Corporate Sector looking to take advantage of the Empire's collapse and expand it's influence.

(Also can I just say "New Separatist Union" is a weird thing to name your state; "separatist" was an informal term that was mostly used by the CIS's detractors, so wouldn't it be like if a few Confederate States re-succeeded and decided to call themselves the "New Rebel Federation.")

 

Confederacy of Corporate Systems = Corporate Sector Authority makes a lot of sense to me. In my head, I kinda had it as all three factions being allies (or at least on good terms) due to fitting that "Space Mega Corp" theme. At least that's the impression I got.

But one the other hand it could be, arguably, more interesting if the New Separatist Union is made up of the idealist side of the old CIS (e.g. Mina Bonteri) while all the more corporate/corrupt parts of the CIS (e.g. the Separatist Council though probably not all of them) would go to the Corporate Sector Authority/Confederacy of Corporate Systems.

On the bizarre third mutant hand, however, it might be nice to have capitalists in Star Wars be not complete jerks for once. XD

And yes, it is a weird name. Maybe they have an overly romantic view of the former CIS, but even then I don't know why they wouldn't call themselves the "New Confederacy" or something. *shrugs*

 

@Dream-Thinker I mean, I guess they could actually be called the "New Confederate Union" and "New Separatist Union" is just what the New Republic and Empire calls them.

("Confederate Union", lol)

On a side note I do really like how splintered the canon post-Endor galaxy seems to be relative to Legends.

 

Minch aka Yoda was a Banite Sith apprentice that is why he knows the Rule of Two in the Legends timeline
Order of the Sacred Circle and Order of the Canted Circle are the same

 

In addition to the Bright Hope, several small rebel shuttles similar to Bandwin Cor's ship at Mako-Ta were also part of the escape flotilla led by Wedge and Janson, making it through the gap as the Executor and the other Star Destroyers moved to converge on the Millennium Falcon's vector at Vader's order (and leaving the gaps that allowed Luke to slip through as well). These shuttles carried the last personnel seen wandering around as the Bright Hope launched and yet they were still there.

 

Jeffery Brown's Jedi Academy series takes place just prior to The High Republic: Light of the Jedi, before Yoda takes sabbatical from the Jedi Council and sets out on the Padawan field trip with Buckets of Blood.



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Its weird in general to see a revived CIS. I've said before, I'm a fan of the CIS. I like the ship aesthetic, they're among my favorite and I'd like them to get more love in the early Dark Times, like we got with Rebel One. They're also fun bad guys - capitalism gone full awry. You can insert all the business puns, anarcho-capitalist memes, Ayn Rand allegories and 80s businessman villains as you want.

But seeing them revived post-Galactic Civil War is kinda odd. They discredited themselves while they existed, considering the Empire were seen as liberators in a lot of regions (one thing I'm looking forward to in Bad Batch, is to see how Raxus will be handled) held by the Separatists. This makes sense, since Palpatine essentially designed them as bad guys. So Imperials see them that way, Rebels don't want any association. Former CIS planets will likely want to shy away from the label. So its a bit like if today we saw a new Cambodian government that calls itself Neo Khmer Rouge, or New Democratic Kampuchea.

Go too far past Endor, and you risk them entering irrelevancy and fading into history completely, so its like if in the Middle East, a country called itself the New Sassanid Empire. Could a bunch of old CIS planets happen to unite in an alliance of common interests? Sure, some of them are quite close. Murkhana and Raxus come to mind. There's the Legends Confederation, which I liked, in that it was a separatist movement, it called itself Confederacy, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the original CIS, since it doesn't make sense why it would.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, the CIS is too short-lived, too low on support and didn't have much staying power other than as a vague set of bad guy villains (just as Palpatine intended) to get a nostalgist revivalist movement. It just doesn't have the support that say, the Empire did, doesn't have the historical background of the Sith Order to get any sort of revival. So I guess what I'm saying is, its entirely possible that the 'New Separatist Union' might not have much to do with the original CIS? They could be another set of secessionists from the Empire (an early variant of Legends' Confederation under Garm Bel Iblis?) that just don't see eye-to-eye with the New Republic.

 

@Havoc123 honestly if anything I'd expect the Separatists to be viewed more romantically by the galaxy in the decades after the Clone Wars; with the oppression of the Empire and that being what the Republic they were fighting for "freedom" from turned into they could very well be seen as the "OG rebels" by a lot of people (and keep in mind elements of the CIS kept fighting for a time after the Clone Wars) who became tragic heroes in their bid to stop the Empire from coming to power.

Heck, as much as the Rebel Alliance seems dominated by former Republic leaders and calls itself the "Alliance to Restore the Republic" it probably ended up having a *lot* of ex-CIS personnel/CIS sympathizers in it.

 

Ristt is the younger brother of Bob Hudsol.

 

new headcanons:

1) After the end of the Clone Wars, Palpatine had a vision about twins being his downfall and doom. He did not believe it, but he feared it. He feared it enough to have the Inquisitors put more emphasis on Forcesensitive twins which allowed some non-twin Forcesensitive babies to sneak through the search roster. And he had many children across the galaxy collected and either put into his service or killed. (One souch twin couple may have been Mara Jade and Shira Brie). Though he never found Luke and Leia thx to their separation.

2) Inquisitors though came scheduled to Bail Organa for testing young princess Leia for Force potential as they did with most if not all powerful and famous children in the Core and surrounding Regions. Even if she is adopted, they intended to test her which Bail tried to avert but had no power to stop them. That was when Bail first used an old trick Padmé had inspired him to and swapped Leia with a lookalike Baby, that of Winter Retrac, his aide Sheltay Retrac's daughter. Ever since Winter became Leia's friend, double and handmaiden with them growing up together like sisters in the palace.

3) During the early days of the Empire there was a childrens crusade as from across the galaxy many kids and teenagers banded together to speak up about oppression and Imperial Moff's abuses of power as well as other atrocities. Many Rim children travelled Coreward as the movement grew. At first belittled by Moffs like Tarkin, Imperial Intelligence and COMPNOR got concerned and started to arrest and distband their gatherings as well as to intercept their ships but their numbers were far too large and widespread to stop them reaching the inner Core Worlds like a wave spilling through Imperial controls and interception as many officers refused to shoot or hurt children and rather faced their superiors punishment, even death instead. Nevertheless official world from Coruscant was awaited on how to deal with this peaceful protest and invasion into imperial affairs as they also began to gather support on Coruscant itself.
Often parents suffered the consequences and punishment and many children orphaned continued. Some left to join partisans and Rebels but the peaceful protest idea remained to the point where Tarkin initiated the Ghorman Massacres and likewise atrocities by other Moffs on other worlds. That dispersed many yet not all and a core still remains true to their ideals and chased by Intelligence would rather die than betray their peaceful protest as it inspired more and more parents to rise up and rebel.

4) A similiar movement got started by broomboy after TLJ as kids all over the galaxy began to revolt against the First Order without violence. by the time of TROS, their parents were ready to join in to have no more kids hurt. And it was all only a final call to action that would have them rise up, take their ship and defeat the FO and come together at Exegol.

5) The Galaxy Fleet consisted not only of fighter craft and warship behemoths but lots and lots of freighters and civilian craft broadcasting on all frequencies. These were the parents of the children kidnapped by the First Order, the parents of the nameless troopers indoctrinated to subdue and fight them. The People Fleet did not win over Exegol due to numbers (which it could have) or with shots fired, but by calling out via comms to their missing children, adults by now, to come home and be forgiven. Not all followed the call, or understood it, but those few that did put down weapons, hesitated or deserted rendered the Xyxston fleet inoperable enough that the military vessels tore through them in no time after allowing each the chance and a time window to release any troops and crew that would want to surrender. In the end, words were truly mightier than a fleet of miniaturized Death Stars! Chancellor Calrissian made it his agenda to reunite families and reconsile and heal the galaxy and people instead of revenge and hard justice which also happened where needed. Even without parents, Finn, Rose and Jannah saved many enemy troops and officers inciting rebellions from coruscant to the farthest Rim were pockets held out still.

 

The light grey-with-black-hats Imperial uniform seen here...

...and the odd-man-out tan uniforms seen in the Holiday Special and the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight Games...

...are the uniforms worn by the naval (light grey) and army (tan) branches of the Imperial Military Police (riot control stormtroopers belong to the latter branch), which are known as the Imperial Naval Military Police and the Imperial Army Military Police respectively. The IMP was at one point overseen by Foga Brill.

This guy is either Moff Darcc or Grand Moff Tolruk, depending on which continuity you want to use.

The six Imperial-class Star Destroyers present during the intro of the Force Unleashed constitute all of the first wave of the class active at the time (minus Garoche Tarkin's and the Exactor, which were lost the year prior); they were the Imperator, the Executrix, the Sovereign, the Devastator, the Right to Rule and the Chimaera (the "slave raid" against Kashyyyk Pellaeon mentions taking place in refers to this battle), and speaking of the Imperator, the canon Imperator-class I imagine being the same as the 686 meter-long unused concept for ANH.

Jan Dodonna and Terrinald Screed were part of the Republic's naval forces at the canon Battle of Anaxes, while Dau Ningo and his flotilla were part of Admiral Trench's forces in the same battle. The Battle of Sullust earlier in the war was the result of a Republic attempt to destroy the CIS's Bulwark-class Battlecruisers before work was completed on them.

The Invincible was not a Providence-class Dreadnought but instead part of a seperate class of ship, the Invincible-class Super Dreadnought, which was constructed by the Free Dac Engineering Corps during the lead-up to the Clone Wars in order to provide the Separatists with a stopgap battlecruiser to counter Republic ships like the Praetor-class. The class used "supersized" Providence superstructures and reactors taken from Lucrehulk superfreighters, which meant they were structurally unstable and underpowered for a vessel of their class, and thus they were not produced in large numbers and ultimately replaced by the Bulwark-class before the war's end.

Both from the Robotnik family, I assume?

 

I like to think that Ristt was the one who first adopted that style of facial hair, and Bob liked it so much that he went with it.

 

Fleet Junkie Headcanon


The Rogue One TIE model is actually a superior off-brand model of the TIE/LN which is used only in secretive installations, such as Scarif and the Maw. Its classification is the Super TIE/LN from the Jedi Academy Sourcebook. The Outland TIE of Gideon's forces, and the hyperdrive-capable TIE that Kylo uses to get to Exegol are all part of this Super TIE design, its just we didn't see the hyperdrive and S-foil features on screen in Rogue One. It would make sense that the unfinished DS-II would have a set of the R1 Super TIEs as its still under the Advanced Weapons Research division, likewise with Gideon. The Super TIE is just part of other experimental projects he also acquired, like the Dark Trooper.

 

Some Mandalorian/Mando related headcanon for ya'll

Jodo Kast is the son of Rook Kast (possibly an illegitimate child or even a foundling given that, IIRC, he was said to have not been Mandalorian)

The Takel family were members of the New Mandalorians. Like Almec, however, they were engaged in corrupt activities (specifically spice running) under Satine's nose. They later became prominent Imperial collaborates under the regime of either the Suprema or Clan Saxon (depending on whether we're discussing Legends or canon).

In canon Clan Fett (in the sense of it being male-line blood descendents of Cassus Fett) went extinct at some point between TOR and the last decades of the Republic, and as of the time Jango was born it's only descendants (through the female line) were the members of Clan Mereel. Jango, a foundling of the Mereels, eventually claimed the name and legacy of the Fetts, something that was done with Jaster's blessing and was a legal, if by-then-obscure, practice under the ancient warrior codes, but led some Mandalorians (such as Satine's group) to consider him not a true Mandalorian but instead a pretender.

The Sith officer Mereel was a member of Clan Mereel.

Bo-Katan ruled as Mand'alor on Mandalore for a period of time after driving the Imperials off in Rebels, but eventually at some point before ESB an Imperial counterattack - led by Grand Admiral Takel and Gideon - took back the planet, during which time Bo-Katan lost the darksaber to Gideon and after which the latter was appointed Moff of Mandalorian Space.

The "Supreme Strategist" who did battle with the Zann Consortium in one of the tutorial missions for FOC was the Legends counterpart of Gar Saxon; in that continuity he was simply the military leader of the collaborationist Mandalorians serving under the Suprema.

Clan Vizsla and Clan Vizla are one in the same, at it was Shae Vizla who stole/recovered the Darksaber from the Jedi Temple (during the Sacking of Coruscant)

Morgan Elsbeth is not a Dathomirian (as some BTS info has asserted), but instead a Ming-Po. The massacre that killed her people (in reality just her family and most of her village) was the skirmish on Carlac between Ashoka, Lux and the Death Watch in TCW (since we're on this, another headcanon I have about Carlac is that it, Ando Prime, Thape and Kijimi were all influenced by a single ancient culture (hence their shared Himalayan aesthetic), and were all strongholds of the Dai-Bendu religion/ideology.

 

Darth Gravid first apprentice was Minch

 

This has actually been my headcanon as well for a while now. It just makes too much sense.

 

I've always assumed that the Confederacy would get whitewashed in the years after the rise of the Empire, and we know that former Confederates ended up in the Rebellion. I would not be at all surprised if there was a warship named Count Dooku or Nute Gunray among the Rebellion or the New Republic's ranks.

 

As I said in a previous headcanon, I absolutely believe that Count Dooku (especially given how much work was put into making him the "worthy opponent" side of the Confederacy) eventually turned into the Che Guevara of the Star Wars galaxy. Less an ideological statement than a fashion statement, most popular among upper-middle-class youth radicals who think the Rebel Alliance/New Republic was too mainstream and square and normie and bougie. (After all, the Rebel Alliance won).

I kind of would, actually. The old Guide To Warfare had a section about how Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis were initially conflicted about letting Separatists into the alliance at all, both for ideological reasons (they wanted to restore the Republic not break it up and weren't sure they could trust the Seppies) and for practical ones (the Seppies were so widely viewed as villains by the end of the Clone Wars, being seen as associated with them might have done more harm than good). I don't expect it's any different in New Canon.