Full Series Should Mace Windu return?

I hope that one day we get to see the Mandalore arc from Season 8 of TCW, so we can finally settle once-and-for-all his true fate.

But Mace, no he's dead.

 

No. Why? Integrity. Bringing back characters that were obviously dead, with no hint that they might have survive, shows a lack of integrity. They did it once with Maul, don't do it again with Mace.

 

I also don't want Mace Windu to return. His death was a very important moment; it was the moment when Anakin finally gave into the Dark Side, when there was no way back for him. Having Mace survive would just nullify that.

Also, it would make us Star Wars fans more distrustfull then we already are.
We wouldn't be able to take any character's death seriously, because 'they'll just resurrect him later'.

 

I loved Mace Windu. When I was a youngling, I always wanted a purple lightsaber. To this day, I think he's an interesting character. But... he does appear to be pretty dead in ROTS. Sure, you could say he's a Jedi, but he was shocked with a high voltage of Force lightning then flung out a very tall building on Coruscant. If he would have survived the fall, I have a feeling he, either way, got hit by one of the "cars" on the way down. My point is, the survival seems unlikely.

As others have mentioned, the scene that this happens shows Anakin's transition to the dark side. He killed a Jedi, and not just any Jedi, he was originally the Master of the Order! He was pretty prominent in the Jedi Order, to say the least. Maul's return was skeptical to me, and I haven't read the EU where this happens so I can't judge it, but hearing Palpatine return seems pretty bad to me too. These people "died" for a reason, it was climatic (well, maybe not Maul's necessarily, but Windu and Palpatine/Sidious? Yes). I think that, should they return, it would make everything prior seem a bit less than what it was intended to be.

 

Emperor reborn was the most stupidest idea ever. Along with Ben Skywalker (yeah, I went there)

 

Nice to see I'm not the only one who did't like Ben Skywalker.

Also please don't bring Mace back.

 

Nah I am pretty sure him slaughtering a bunch of kids was his no way back moment that and choking Padme.

 

Next they're going to introduce zombie Greedo.

 

Got to agree. You could argue that he 'just' disarmed Windu, who was actually killed by Sidious. It is an important point, but to seal the deal Vader had to do something more dramatic than cutting of a hand (which is a frequent injury and easily fixable, it seems).


A resurrected Mace takes away nothing from that scene. Anakin still decides for the Dark Side, against the Jedi; and he still had to go to the Temple and Mustafa to fully commit himself. Actually, I think the fact that Anakin had not yet killed before he marched on the Temple makes murdering the Younglings even more significant. He went from disarming a powerful master to slaughtering helpless kids!

If anything a resurrected Mace could be a great opportunity to confront Vader with his choice.

 

Let's be honest this thread wouldn't exist if it wasn't Sam L Jackson

 

Yeah, he ended up in Kingsman as an unlikely genius with a lisp with purple interfaces on all his computer programs. Maybe brain damage from Sidious that sent him through a time warp continuum. .

 

It isn't about just cutting off Mace's hand, it's about being indirectly responsible for his death. I'm pretty sure that Anakin couldn't have returned to the Jedi Order after doing something like that. Anakin had to make a decision quickly: attack a Jedi Master or let Palpatine die. Of course, he doesn't fully become a Sith Lord until he slaughters the Jedi (including the kids), but it was definitly a major step towards the Dark Side.

 

I am not saying its not a major step but its not the moment he steps off the cliff.

 

I can see maybe a villain being a cloned Jedi, maybe Windu? Perhaps the Empire creates cloned Jedi that they make off as having survived Order 66 and actively causing havoc around the galaxy? It works as a mean to villainize the Jedi and also to keep the threat and fear of them alive.

 

If Mace Windu returns they should find a way to include



As well. Because you can never get enough Andrea.

 

If Mace comes back it would simply be because ''Oh look, Mace is back. Awesome, right? RIGHT!?" Mace's death was the point where the Sith won and the Jedi lost. Mace had Palpatine at his feet, Anakin made his choice and the rest is history: the Jedi were finished, Sidious took over and the Empire was truly born. Bringing the real Mace back or a ghost/clone/whatever won't change the fact that Mace's story is done, it's finished. Bringing him back serves no other reason than pure fan boy appeal. It doesn't progress the plot in the slightest, unlike the return of Ahsoka (whose story was left hanging) or the Clones (who we never found the ultimate fate of, til now.) We KNOW what happened to Mace: he had his hand hacked off and was blasted out of a window by evil lightning. He's toast.

 

I wan't to be able to say no he shouldn't be back BUT we might get another Lawless so......go for it!

 

The difference between the Sith and the Jedi....

Ben Kenobi ; Turns into force ghost when he understands that he couldn't escape from Vader and his stormtroopers.



The biggest difference between the Sith and the Jedi is one accepts the death and another rejects it. Therefor Mace couldn't turn from that injury if he could, he would be a darksider, for example ; if Maul turns into the light side he would be pretty much dead, his dark side powers kept him alive for years and then Mother Talzin fixed him.

 

It really comes down to the Sith seeking immortality in mortal bodies - existing forever as living beings on the material plane. To the Jedi, existing forever as one with the Force is to be desired, the death of your physical form is just one step along that path. QG was merely the first for a long while to actually get the hang of retaining consciousness and independent will.

 

I thought everyone knew Mace survived and changed his name to Nick Fury?

 

I must admit I do not understand you entirely. Why is not a major step towards the Dark Side if Mace is still alive? All your points would still be valid: attacking a Jedi Master, deciding for Palpatine, and slaughtering kids to seal the deal. In this line of thought, how does it matter if Anakin thinks he helped killing or 'just' maiming and crippling a Jedi? What's more, assuming he thinks he helped killing Windu (which is more than likely!), how would it undo this character development if we learn Windu is alive?


Regarding the fanboy service... I did not say I would like to see Windu. I am actually not a fan of this character, and I am not a fan of Jackson for that matter. Windu would not be the same without Jackson, he imprinted way too much on Windu in a way I think Jedi should not be. So no, I am not arguing from a fanboy perspective.

In fact, the greatest negative impact of Windu surviving the fall would be the cheapening Sidious's lightning. You can't scream "unlimited power" and then only injure someone... That is what I would dislike!

 

I wonder how fans would react to see Mace Windu return as a cyborg. His injuries might be severe enough he required this like Darth Maul did.

 

Anakin did not have time to make a good decision about joining the Dark Side, he just reacted to the situation and attacked Mace to save Palpatine. After that, he had no reason not to join the Dark Side. He had painted himself into a corner. If it would be know that he had a hand (no pun intended ) in killing a Jedi Master, the Jedi would try to arrest or even kill him. If Mace Windu turns out to be alive, Anakin's turn to the Dark Side would seem pointless. For me, it doesn't matter if he did not know that Mace was death. It would just make the story a lot less powerfull.

Imagine if Darth Vader / Anakin Skywalker shows up in one of the new movies, and it turns out that he did not die in Return of the Jedi (I know he appeared as a ghost, but just imagine). That would make his ultimate sacrifice for his son (giving his life to save him) a lot a less powerfull, almost pointless.
Although, you could still argue that the sacrifice would be just as powerfull, because Vader thought he was going to die. Would you be okay with something like that?