Mini Series Skeleton Crew 1.02 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

I agree, once again we have a TV show that is really just a chopped up film. For LFL, this is the norm, and it's one of the main flaws of their programming, but for whatever reason, they either don't seem to care or don't notice.

But if you watch the various fan and critic responses to their shows, very few are fans of the short runtimes.

Sometimes, whether or not this is true -- although it seems to actually be the case -- watching LFL shows feels like viewing a cheapskate or nearly broke company do their best to barely scrape by.

Skeleton Crew looks good so far production wise, but the same can't be said for most of LFL's content. They are gaining a reputation for cheap product, which is truly tragic for a once-respected cutting edge effects company.

When I think of Star Wars these days, I think of the following: Cheap, short, ill-planned, rushed, little care for story or character. (Notice I didn't mention "woke," which if true, would actually make me like the Disney era content more). What we see with Disney Star Wars should really be seen as the more general problem of capitalism -- making a product as cheap as possible so that the wealthy can grow more wealthy. The artistic side has almost completely been rung out of it -- Andor is one exception, simply due to the power of its creator's ability and vision.

Until the powers that be remember that Star Wars is supposed to be cutting edge entertainment, I'll continue to think of Disney SW as the era of the .99 cent menu.

 

Well, that was the implication, but it doesn't necessitate for the planet to have been hidden for more than 30-40 years. I am sure that there are remote planets where you could find old republic credits even after the fall of the Empire.

However, the whole setup makes me think that perhaps At Attin has been hidden even for hundreds of years, who knows?!

 

Star Wars has been in its golden age since 2012. We've had some fantastic content that we couldn't have imagined during the Lucas era. It always makes me laugh when I read such a stupid and extremely biased opinion.

 

He had no ship. He only popped up once he heard they had a ship. Now...obviously someone like him, who maybe has the force or whatever, could have broken out and stolen a ship quite easily. Given his "there's no distance" mantra, that should apply not only to keys but also ships too. But ... that's the answer I suppose. And kids are kind of niaive and far to trusting.

PROS: Pirate City was cool. I liked the alien costume work here for the bar owner and the green lobster-crab-faced dude. Excellent alien designs. I think Wim is getting a bit annoying. But Fern is doing a lot of heavy lifting right now. There are times when I think she's too cool and not at all how a 10-12 year old would ever act.

CONS: Run time. 32 minutes with about 12 minutes of opening/end credits is just too little. This episode left like it was getting going and then, blam, over. I get that they are really going to the Saturday Matinee Serialized format here. But it's just getting old at this point. I'd rather just want the whole bloody thing at once. And I still think that tonally its a bit off at times. Sometimes it just feels a bit too kiddy and goes beyond the normal Star Wars takes itself seriously, but also silly at times tonality.

Minor nitpick: I wish the pirate droid was different. He's too ... comic-y. I kind of almost wish we got a modified K2 unit. Someone 9 feet tall and imposing, but kinda broken and nonsensical. I'm not digging the heavy english/Scottish accent. Eh whatever. Goes back to the tone issue I'm having at times.

 

Liked this episode just as much as the first one. The pirate asteroid was wonderful aethetically and Jod got an intriguing introduction, also some intresting hints about At Attin. Overall I'm hooked but I'll echo the complaints about the run time being too short. That continues to be incredibly annoying in the Star Wars shows and I'll never understand it either.

8/10 nonetheless.

 

Maybe they are descendants of the Nihil but that would be a pretty large turn about from anarchist terrorists.

 

I don't think there is anything nefarious about At Attin...just that it is a place that has a regimented society. Kind of like that ST:TNG episode

 

Those protocol droids are far too protocoled. No one is allowed to leave or cross the dangerous barrier or even allowed in restricted areas. And the workaholic citizens are far too ciult-minded. No one knows the place exists or thinks it’s a myth.

This is all set up. something is definitely going on that is not what it seems. So far presented as way too idealized. There’s a reason why an old republic pirate crashed there. I almost wonder if that pirate is the unseen ruler of the place. Or hell maybe the droid isn’t a pirate and was reprogrammed to protect the truth

 

I think the ship crashed trying to find At Attin. They find the treasure and then kill each other. So pirate.

 

Also betting that treasure isn’t gold but something less lucrative to pirates. Maybe something a Jedi would or could find. Something to do w the force that was misunderstood.

 

"Their treasure was knowledge. Knowledge was their treasure."

(Also redundancy. Redundancy was their other treasure, a treasure which they treasured all the more because it was redundant.)

 

While I do not agree with a single thing that The Chalk Jedi said (especially when absolutely none of those things apply to Skeleton Crew or The Mandalorian or Kenobi or Ahsoka), I find the irony in this post quite amusing

Your opinion is also very clearly extremely biased. I am not going to call it stupid because that's rude. And I think TCJ is entitled to their opinion, even if it is different from yours (and mine). Why could we not have imagined this kind of fantastic content during the Lucas era? If Lucas had made Star Wars Underworld, we might have seen even more fantastic content. I can certainly imagine more fantastic content than at least half of the Disney stuff. And SWU would have been just the tip of the iceberg.

I hypothesize that The Mandalorian could very well still have happened and be identical to how it is (remember the origin story about how Favreau had the SW connection since Lucas still had LFL, and how he came up with his idea?), and I am 100% sure that George Lucas would have COOKED with The Volume. We may have had even more and better content by now.

 

Lucas was criticized a lot during the prequel era for everything: too much CGI, poor acting, not being able to direct. Need I list more? Let's not pretend everything was perfect back then. That hatred existed just as much as it does today.

 

the pirate base/port was really well done

 

Your response literally had nothing to do with what I said. If we were talking about "hatred" (strong word but ok), then I would have to say that the audience's disapproval of what Lucas was doing with HIS story and HIS universe was almost entirely unjust and hyperbolic back in the 2000s, whereas the disapproval of what Disney is doing with someone else's creation has a lot more merit. Even so, I never even mentioned how the audience perceives certain content.

Also, I don't need to pretend at all when comparing GL Star Wars to Disney Star Wars. The former is vastly superior IMO. And that's why I am absolutely certain that GL would have worked miracles in the past decade with current technology, and would have provided much much much better content. We can agree to disagree, but that's about it.

 

Um, what?

How about you present your opinion as just that: your opinion. You can't just run around and proclaim that criticism of what Lucas was doing was "entirely unjust and hyperbolic" and then turn around and pretend that the criticism towards Disney has its merit. That's just not how any of this works. You can have your opinion on whether the PT was good or not, you can have your opinion on whether the Disney material is good or not - though pretending it's all the same is rather ridiculous - but you most definately cannot treat that opinion of yours as a fact and act as if the criticism that Lucas got was unjust while the criticsm Disney got was is based on merit, because that is purely based on your personal feelings and not backed up by anything. It is also insulting towards other fans. "I like something, therefore any criticism is invalid" is not a proper argument. Neither is "I don't like something, therefore any cricism is justified". Yet that is exactly what you are saying. There has been plenty of justifiable criticism towards the PT, and plenty of completely nonsensical one. Just like there has been plenty of justifiable criticism of the Disney-era, and plenty of completely nonsensical one.

And yes, you are very much pretending if you claim that the hatred the PT got was not real or not up to par with what can be found today. The only noteworthy difference is that social media is big now, while it wasn't all that important yet back when the prequels came out. Outside of that, the hatred the prequels got - and yes, that is exactly what it was - was extreme. Quite a few of the actors got bashed, and Lucas even more so. There is a reason "George Lucas ... my childhood" came up. He was accused of having lost his touch, and attempts were made to revise history by trying to assign all the good stuff of the OT to everyone but Lucas. They made lies about how the old crew kept his worst impulses in check while the new one consisted only of yes-men, they tried to lie about who wrote the movies, who came up with the best ideas, they even went ahead and tried to claim ROTJ not being considered up to par with ESB came due to Lucas choosing a director and producer who he could control more easily. The list goes on and on.

 

Nice rant, but I am not required to state under every post that it is my opinion. It goes without saying.

The only thing that is insulting is your very frequent personal attacks and the idea that everyone else's opinion is based on feelings.

I don't care to respond to everything else because it's quite off topic, but thanks for confirming my statement about the hate towards Lucas with your last paragraph I guess.

 

They are building a planetary defense system that protects them from future "Death Star tech".

Another enjoyable episode.

 

Great use of practical effects

 

So Brutus the Wolfman is the chief pirate in Port Borgo? Interesting choice of name then, since the Borgo Pass is the way to Dracula's castle. (And, in the novel, Dracula could after all turn into a wolf.)

 

you've also got dead pirate skeletons travelling through hyperspace

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