Solo Solo box-office discussion

A lot of people do not seem to grasp this.

 

If it doesn't make 100m this weekend then that's it, Disney will pull the plug on a dying patient to end our suffering while we can still remember the good days. Bye bye Star Wars

 

If Deadline is to be believe the three previous movies in total made $1.52B (including home video/rental rights and all that) in profit for the studio but Solo as a money loser would decrease that amount.

 

George Lucas is Disney`s biggest ( or second biggest if i remember wrong) shareholder.
Fire Kathy K now George. User your power as a shareholder. Oh wait......

$ 4 billion is $ 2 billion in cash and the rest in stocks to Georgie btw.

 

I don’t think KK needs to go at all, but I do think LF needs a creative head like Feige to manage content output. They need a purpose. Giving every director freedom to do whatever on random projects doesn’t build investment imo, which should be their goal.

 

WTF!!! Is that supposed to be pathetic sarcastic joke?? I sure hope so.

Once again, a "failed" Solo film just means no more Solo films. Not really that bad of a loss since there was really no demand for more Solo films in the first place.

 

This is just one mans opinion JJ has more pressure on him for episode 9 then 7 and I never thought I would say that.Episode 7 had to kicks things off with a bang and reassure the fans things were on track which it obviously did.Whatever side of the fence your on doesn't matter numbers are down 50pct plus from Rogue One like the old saying"What Have You Done For Me Lately"Won't sit well with Disney and the shareholders.We all need to lay hands on JJ and tell him we believe in you bro.

 

Why in the world are you so hostile?? It's common knowledge that Disney paid 4 billion for Star Wars. It was all over the news at the time because of the price.
The films have an average budget of 250 million, including Solo. That's another billion in four films.

Advertising worldwide, including Superbowl spots average of 5 mil, so another 20 mil on four TV spots) is not cheap. Think hundreds of territories of promotions, partnerships, tv spots, posters, billboards, etc.

Marketwatch.com (I can't link on mobile) predicts each Star Wars theme park will cost 1 billion each.

It's not shocking that this franchise has a ton of money poured into it, and those costs NEED to be recouped, so your anger and hostility is incredibly unjustified.

 

Don’t forget the split with theaters. My understanding is the $4 billion is gross, before theaters take a split right off the top that isn’t insignificant.

 

People were going to be excited no matter what for the 1st new SW as Episode VII finally being announced and filmed and being foisted out to the world. Episode IX - the fifth SW movie in a row - has a bigger challenge in having interest beforehand. The Last Jedi inherited the good brand feelings from TFA and RO and the plot threads set up by TFA including the cliffhanger with Luke and Rey and Finn's fate and all that as well as being Carrie Fisher's final SW performance and its opening reflected that.

 

In no way does IX have a bigger task than VII did. VII was introducing brand new characters and a new storyline and was the first movie released under Disney. IX is coming from a point where three of the previous four movies all grossed over a billion dollars. THe fan backlash shouldn't be taken all that seriously since we don't even know how big the backlash really was. The biggest thing with Solo is that the GA (who was not part of any type of blacklash) simply didn't get interested in a Solo movie. THey didn't get a chance to hype it up as the previous ones as there wasn't enough time and people as a whole didn't seem to be real excited about seeing an Solo origin story.

@jedijax yes he was joking. He was being sarcastic over all these people saying that Kennedy needs to go based off of one movie not doing quite as well as they may have hoped.

 

@AhsokaSolo It's funny that you mention the theater's cut because Disney really pissed off a lot of theater owners with its draconian terms for TLJ (65% of gross, four weeks in the largest auditoriums, no dropped screenings without Disney's permission). Between TLJ's weaker-than-expected legs and Solo's soft opening, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the biggest chains really pushes back against reserving their largest auditorium for a month if Disney tries to go with the same terms for Ep IX.

 

Nobody was having the conversation about whether Disney made a good deal or not prior to Solo. One movie, that's it. One. Yes, it will be a hard pill to swallow when the final weekend numbers come in and I think we will all gasp for the moment. But it's one hiccup.

If Solo did well, Disney would still have to figure out what to do after IX. Lots of directors and no direction. No sense of unity among the franchise since it's all different worlds and stories that haven't even been suggested yet. Solo is the LEAST of the tasks on hand since they can easily just brush it aside and move forward. What they need to do is have a true vision and direction and need to at least let people know what all of these new stories from other directors are going to be about.

There are absolutely NO problems right now with the franchise. Solo is a diversion but they will go crazy marketing IX and they have SW Land coming. After 2019 is when they need to figure things out. Cancel the Fett movie and move forward with the Obi-Wan film. Make Obi-Wan a story of a renegade Jedi in a time when Jedi were outlaws. Obi-Wan wants to hide his identity and whereabouts but is tracked down by an old enemy who has risen. All the while, he has to somehow protect the very young Luke from being hunted and keep those who seek him from finding Luke. There-you have a great story if that is developed.

 

I agree with this,but if 7 sucked Disney had 4 billion riding on things starting right,and if it failed with fans that would have been bad man.JJ had the responsibility of living up to Star Wars expectations it was enormous pressure.

 

Fine. Thanks. At least you tried to give a simple answer.
Yeah. I should be more nice.

@jedijax Thumbs up for that last post. The people calling for financial clean up here are posters i have barely witnessed having expressed those opinions earlier, or they have been away and shows up just in time for the potential Solo failure. But, i will be nice....

 

Isn’t the next SW movie a year and a half away? That’s a long time with no income after this. It’s not like Marvel that releases a handful of movies a year. I think Solo running in the red would be a bigger deal than, say, Ant Man (I’m just guessing there, I have no idea if that movie actually lost money).

 

Rian Johnson, "my bosses spent 4 billion to set up characters and plots?"



Start from scratch JJ start from scratch

 

4 billion was Lucasfilm.
It includes ILM, Indina jones, lucasart, skywalker sounds and Star Wars

 

1) They've been fixated on the Star Wars May releases that I-VI had but they kept getting knocked out by production issues.

2) I don't think waiting another 7 months was going to do the movie any favors. The time to move it back was when RH came in. Once they didn't and set it for May then any more movement would be deadly to whatever build they could make.

3) As part of that they decided a quick hit and run campaign was needed because the natural build simply was not there and never was.

If tracking is to be believed then it was 130-150 but now it's below 120.

Yes but what is "getting away with it" in terms of box office? My guess is A&W is not going to get anything near BP or IW and Ant-Man might be what a Solo movie is. Maybe Obi-Wan would be Thor 3 or Spider-Man HC.

It's not like with proper expectations it's not manageable. Just don't spend 250M making it. Solo probably would be the lowest budget of the new movies save for the production issues.

Not enough information to go on yet. Old song but imagine if it was Obi-Wan opening with all the good will that concept has. EM as Obi-Wan back with RP as Maul, Yoda, Qui-Gon, maybe even Vader, Sidious, Mustafar and Ashoka in some combination.

 

Lol, what? I hope you’re joking.

 

Good point I forgot that income Disney owning the post production is big,and Indiana Jones is coming soon.

 

Wasn’t Crystal Skull made before the Disney acquisition? I don’t follow that franchise so I didn’t realize it was part of Disney’s deal. How do they plan to take that series forward? HF can’t do that forever, and he’s kind of the title character.

 

This is a legit question i think. And quite central to the whole discussion about investment and quality control.

One thing is for sure though. The movies are only a drop in the ocean in the overall revenue for a mega company like Disney. But Star Wars is more than movies. Lucasfilm is more than Star Wars.

Either way, if we like or dislike the films they are making at the moment and the direction they are taking - we don`t want Star Wars to be watered down long term. There has to be a balance for sure.

 

There is an indiana jones movie comming in 2020 with HF and spielberg

 

The Solo movie might be a cautionary tale not to recast the lead. Shia's Mutt might've been the idea at one point but that's gone by the wayside. There's still Indy 5 coming out in a couple of years.