Spider-Man 3 anticipation and discussion

There really shouldn't be any doubt that Green Goblin 2/Hobgoblin will be the main villian in part 3. Harry knows about Peter,knows about his Father.He has the equipment and the formula for the power.

I see the plot being Peter trying to help Doctor Connors while trying to deal with Harry at the same time.

 

I'm honestly hoping Hobgoblin. Its new, its fresh, and the end of spidey 2 is much like Roderick Kingsley, while still being true to the GG2 for the most part. It'll still focus on harry/peter, and the green goblins grasp on harry, and the story of his father.

 

If I were a bigtime Hollywood producer (particularly one of the mindless twirps), I'd be thinking "Sinister Six." After all the money I and II have made, and knowing pretty much everybody'll be back for this next one (and probably not past that, at least most of them), I'd give Raimi a blank check and tell him to throw everything at the screen. Beside GGII, the Sinister Six would consist of Scorpion, Shocker, Rhino, Lizard and Sandman.

 

I don't know why people think the next villain is going to be Green Goblin. It's too soon to have Green Goblin as the villain again. It will probably just be a secondary side note in the movie.

I agree. They haven't built up Harry going psycho/being depressed/troubled enough yet. SM3 should be the Lizard and show Harry taking a bunch of medicines/anti-depressants and such, building up the GG2 for SM4.

 

I don't know why people think the next villain is going to be Green Goblin. It's too soon to have Green Goblin as the villain again. It will probably just be a secondary side note in the movie.

I agree. They haven't built up Harry going psycho/being depressed/troubled enough yet.

Probably because the last two films have set up Harry going after Peter. Because this last film ended with Harry going crazy (he's hearing voices and seeing visions of his father, after all: how is that not psycho/troubled enough?) and discovering the Goblin's secret stash. The end of 2 screams that Harry is going to be the villain of the next one. He thinks he's Hamlet, and he's becoming crazy enough to rival the Prince's tortured soul. He'll get even crazier in the next one.

 

I hope so.

 

" If I were a bigtime Hollywood producer (particularly one of the mindless twirps), I'd be thinking "Sinister Six." After all the money I and II have made, and knowing pretty much everybody'll be back for this next one (and probably not past that, at least most of them), I'd give Raimi a blank check and tell him to throw everything at the screen. Beside GGII, the Sinister Six would consist of Scorpion, Shocker, Rhino, Lizard and Sandman."


No. For one, the Lizard is a psychotic mammal hater. He'd never work with a team. And second, if your going to do the Sinister Six, do it right. Electro, Mysterio, The Vulture, The Chameleon, Pity, and someone to replace Ock as the leader. Hmm Harry? And the whole thing to kill Spider-Man. Thats a bit much even for me, who is all about the big battle. Kraven might work.

 

I'd save the Sinister Six for the 4th movie seeing as how Harry Osbourn is already set up to be the next villian for Spider-Man 3 and whether he'll become Hobgoblin or Green Goblin II is debatable. Also, the Lizard is most likely to appear in the film as well since Dr. Connors was briefly mentioned in pt. 1 and was introduced in pt. 2.

 

I don't think they'll use anything Clone Saga-related in the films. Maybe the animated series?

the Clone Saga, like Maximum Carnage, is generally regarded as one of the lowest points of the whole franchise. it's an embarassment which i would expect the movies and the animated series to avoid like the plague.

 

I can see it now:

Spider-Man 3: Attack of the Clones




For any Reilly fans (like myself) you might want to check out the Life of Reilly website (a long, 35-part article). It tells the entire story of the Clone Saga from beginning to end, and includes lots of behind the scenes stuff from editors and writers who worked on the series, and shows just how messed up the whole thing was from the beginning. Very cool. I started Spidey books at the beginning of the whole Clone mess, but gave up on it because it was just too expensive. I always liked Reilly though, and hated it when they killed him.

 

Ben Parker (the clone of Peter Parker) was like a brother to Peter, and was killed by the Goblin. And he owned the Daily Bugle at one point - Peter was still working for the Bugle at that point, so Normal was his boss.

LIKE a brother. Nice try...but clones don't count as siblings.

 

I checked the Comic Book Family Conversion Table and clones can be considered siblings. Be they good or evil.

 

LIKE a brother. Nice try...but clones don't count as siblings.

Yeah, they're more like children

 

MY only worry (and i'm sure Sam will show me im wrong) is that they will make hobgoblin exaclty like GG. They need to make him look very differnt but still the same.

If they screw up it will be the last spidy film because it won't be anything differnt than the first film. I'm sure they will pull it off but it kinda seems it will be the same as the first.

 

" LIKE a brother. Nice try...but clones don't count as siblings."


Now thats just arguring semantics. Peter thinks of him as a brother, he even called him brother.

And The2ndQuest. Maximum Carnage is great. Maximum Clonage is bad.

 

Maximum Carnage is looked down upon? For what reasons? I'm only familiar with the video game.

Because Maximum Carnage is probably one of the most violent comic book characters/villains ever created. There was quite a stir about how the character was being used in Marvel back in mid-90's I believe. Where Venom was violent too, he still usually only killed out of spite. With Maximum Carnage, it was anything and everything. Some parents actually refused to buy Spiderman comics for their kids because of Maximum Carnage.
I still thought Maximum Catrnage was cool-looking. It would be a lot of work (FX-wise) to make him look the way he did in the comic books (organic with protruding veins).

 

"Because Maximum Carnage is probably one of the most violent comic book characters/villains ever created. There was quite a stir about how the character was being used in Marvel back in mid-90's I believe. Where Venom was violent too, he still usually only killed out of spite. With Maximum Carnage, it was anything and everything. Some parents actually refused to buy Spiderman comics for their kids because of Maximum Carnage.
I still thought Maximum Catrnage was cool-looking. It would be a lot of work (FX-wise) to make him look the way he did in the comic books (organic with protruding veins)."


Hah! That has to be the funniest thing I've read in a long time. The name of the villain is Carnage. Maximum Carnage is the name of a big team up arc where Carnage breaks free gets a couple of other crazys and goes on a killing spree. Venom, Spider-Man, Captain America, Cloak and Dagger and others team up to fight them.

 

They need to make him look very differnt but still the same.

I think he should look exactly the same. Imagine how scary it would be for Peter and how freaked out he'd be the first time he saw the Goblin again, especially if he looked the same. It would be an amazing moment in the film. I get chills just thinking about how cool it could be.

 

The whole point of Harry as Green Goblin II was to freak out Peter because he know that Norman was dead, but all of a sudden he was back. As much as I'd like to see a better costume, I definatly think that Harry should wear the same one that Norman wore.

Also, Harry is NOT the Hobgoblin, he is the Green Goblin. Hobgoblin was just some schmo that found some pumpkin bombs. Having Harry as anyone other than Green Goblin would be dumb. (almost as dumb as having Norman come back from the dead, but that's another story )

 

Hobgoblin was just some schmo that found some pumpkin bombs.

Well, schmo might be too harsh...

All things considered, I liked the Hobgoblin set up better, if you set aside the Green Goblin's ties to Spidey History..

When what's-his-name found one of the Goblin caves, wasn't the back story that he was kind of possessed by the spirit of Osborne?

It has been awhile, but I remember something along the lines of the Hobgoblin actually thinking himself to be Norman..

 

By the way...

Venom was great. Carnage sucked. A mid-90's, "faster and more intense" spin off of a classic villain. Perfect example of how to use up a good idea.