Senate Standing Rock showdown; Dakota Access Pipeline protest

Well what do ya know, a happy ending.

 

I hope so. Not that it's just delayed until the Water Protectors all leave and then they begin again.

 

There will be a new President in less than two months. I doubt it's over.

 

Like Return Of the Jedi to The Force Awakens. We had a happy ending, and then...

 

I thought there were some reports about impatience among investors or something? That if they couldn't get to work soon enough, the whole project would have to fold?

 

Nice to see they've decided to re-route it.

 

Hurry up and reroute it! I want my OPEC free, refined by union men and women, 100% 'Merican made oil!

Oh yes, & try not to to spill it on some grave site!

 

I'm guardedly optimistic, not because of this victory--which may prove ephemeral--but rather because we now at least have a template for how citizens can resist corporate encroachments. This alliance between Natives, farmers, veterans, activists and sympathetic politicians is proof positive that effective dissent can succeed.

Now we need to replicate this and ratchet it up 100x

 

Hahaha. Yeah right. Not in our consumerist society. Only way it happens is if a company doesn't make an smartphone app available on time.

 

I do think it's possible that at this point, regardless of what the White House says, the companies will simply want to move on. The PR has been terrible, and investors may not want that heat. Especially if they can shift to another plan.

At the end of the day, they care about their bottom line. They may still accept an alternate plan from the Army corps of engineers just to get it over with and avoid months of protests. At a certain point it's not worth the hassle, when you can just build the pipeline in a different place and still make tons of money.

Now, if there were oil itself on the Sioux lands for mining and an oil company were claiming rights to it, they wouldn't give that up. This? They may prefer the PR win of being able to say, "we are glad we were able to find an alternate route that's respectful of native peoples." Even though that will be BS.

 

I dunno, Shane. If someone told me 18 months ago that an independent would come within a hair's breadth of wresting the Democratic nomination from the most deeply-entrenched party establishment and successfully breach said party's 35+ year neoliberal hull, I'd be blown away.

I think we'll be seeing a hell of a lot more solidarity in the months and years to come.

 

Maybe.

 

it's truly a golden age

 

It's time for a sixth international.

 

Yes. But I'll invest in silver.

 

Just saw this yesterday at 8:44 PM. After all these blatant human rights violations and the brave protests of the water protectors, we have achieved victory. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...2be4b0c68e04817323?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

 

He haves a stake in what's best for America and in turn what's best for his reelection.

 

lol, no he doesn't. If things are going badly for the country, he'll just say they're going well, and people will say "hmm, things are going well" and then he'll be re-elected.

 

Don't be so sure Alpha-Red. The fallen blue wall that elected trump can be repaired again & vote him out if those factories don't reopen.

 

So you're saying Trump is using a jedi mind trick?

 

Yeah, pretty much.