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Amph Star Trek: Section 31 [Paramount+] (Jan 24th, 2025)

Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest , Oct 21, 2024.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Since we got some news about the film out of NYCC, including the launch date, and we already got a teaser trailer the other month, figure it’s time for this to get its own thread and put it all in one place.

    First up, key art for the logo and cast:
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    And I'm going to tag this just to make these collapsible, but here are the individual character posters from that banner,with the cast/character names (images and text from TrekCore, and some further details from Trek Central):

    Michelle Yeoh as Philippa Georgiou:
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    Omari Hardwick as Section 31 team leader Alok Za'ha:
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    Sam Richardson as the chameloid Quasi:
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    Kacey Rohl as Rachel Garrett, future captain of the Enterprise-C:
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    Humberly González as Melle, a Deltan:
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    Sven Ruygrok is the Vulcan (or Romulan?) nicknamed Fuzz:
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    Robert Kazinsky as the mechanically-enhanced Zeph:
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    The teaser from earlier this year:


    And some moments from the NYCC panel with the cast:


     
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  2. Sarge

    Sarge 2x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Ugh.

    Wrong franchise, but... I have a bad feeling about this.
     
  3. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I was really hoping for someone to finally spotlight the bleak aspects of the utopian, progressed timeframe of Star Trek.
     
  4. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    I think I’ll wait for The Section 31.
     
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  5. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    I stated this in the other thread back when this was announced, but the idea to have a movie with Section 31 being the main characters is wrongheaded. The Federation is not the USA or any other modern country. It's mean to be an idealized situation. Sure, individuals can be corrupt or do bad things, but the institution needs to remain good. To have Section 31 be a sanctioned organization within Starfleet is wrong. It's the wrong direction.
     
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  6. study888

    study888 Force Ghost star 4

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    I'll watch it to give it a chance, but have a feeling it will leave a bad taste in my mouth. If I do end up liking the movie I think I'll be in the minority.

    I liked the introduction to Section 31 in DS9 with Dr. Bashir and thought it was a good concept. If this is anything like that, I just may be able to enjoy this film.
     
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  7. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I didn't mind Section 31 being in three or four Deep Space Nine episodes, but Abrams/Kurtzman Trek has such a hard-on for them that the concept has long overstayed its welcome. I also don't understand the idea that the ridiculous, ridiculously evil Mirror-Georgiou should be heavily featured. I get it, they killed off her character in the Discovery pilot and they wanted Michelle Yeoh back, but there were other ways to do it than bringing her back as Space-Hitler-working-for-the-"good guys." Like, they ended Lower Decks for this?
     
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  8. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Chosen One star 6

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    Section 31 was something that worked specifically for DS9's take on Star Trek, but it should have ended there.
     
  9. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Hey! A Chameloid! I guess that confirms it wasn't a lost Changeling/Founder Kirk and Bones ran into on Rura Penthe (just a decades long personal head canon that just died). I mean they brought them back for Picard s3 but the Changeling mythology is kinda dense to use them extensively but hey we got Chameloid!
     
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  10. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Are space ships finally obsolete since this takes place after Star Track Into Darkness?
     
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  11. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Different universes and at this point in the timeline Scotty hasn't perfected transwarp beaming, he's just disappearing Admiral Archer's prized beagle
     
  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    With Rachel Garrett involved, this would actually be set in the Prime universe’s "lost era" between ST6 & TNG. So about 60-70 years after Kelvin Scotty lost the beagle.
     
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  13. Sarge

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    I liked Rachel Garrett. Hope this show doesn't ruin the character.
     
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  14. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Scotty was probably tinkering with beaming beagles until him and Franklin crashed into the Dyson Sphere. Probably why it happened
     
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  15. The2ndQuest

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    But that would still be long after any Archer or Archer Beagles were around ;).
     
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  16. The2ndQuest

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  17. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I believe the thinking was “Now is the time to make a movie with a super fun mass murderer as the lead.” Hitting the mass murderers are misunderstood zeitgeist.
    Looks like JJ Abrams, Oliver Stone and some hack director from the MCU had a baby.
     
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  18. The2ndQuest

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    I like the elements being presented, and while the trailers have gotten better each time, I think the direction they've tried to take these trailers has been a misfire. They seem to have trouble packing in all the stuff they want to show, and it makes the trailers feel unfocused (because you're getting just a lot of random action shots without context).

    Outside of Georgiou we don't really get a sense of any of the new characters (except maybe her right hand guy- that interrogation scene was a good moment). Leaves the trailers lacking a real hook in attempts to trying to show off a Suicide Squad premise (but keeping that mission too vague to be a hook in of itself).

    And I'm hoping the "billions" comment is just hyperbole, or made without being informed. The one criticism about DIS that was almost universal was the repeated use of galaxy-scale threats (at least at first- S4 & S5 were a little more nuanced beyond their marketing), and it'd be a shame to see S31 fall into that same trap.
     
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  19. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    Guy in trailer: "This is going to be bad."
    Me: "Yes, already is."

    I'll watch it because it's a Star Trek and that's what I do, but with Section 31 it is putting something I don't like front and centre so I have rock bottom expectations for this.
     
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  20. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    On general principle, I can't say I'm a fan of this but that was the best trailer so far.
     
  21. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Force Ghost star 6

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    Random chaos with a few Star Trek soundeffects.

    Wow that was awful.

    They lost cabin pressure on what made Section 31 so interesting...discretion.

    Now it's starting to look like a "Federation CIA"...everybody knows the name and knows the game.

    They took the name and dumped it in the sandbox to cook up an "underworld" story.

    Spy movie blended with a Mob movie, sprinkled with fog machines and neon lights and some blue screen work.

    Honestly...this might work better as a STAR WARS property.

    New Trek fails again.
     
  22. Sarge

    Sarge 2x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Michelle Yeoh has done great things. That's not it.
     
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  23. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Interesting to note that we see a member of the aliens from Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. So while The Riddler and his opponent may have been the last survivors on that planet, they apparently weren't the last of their species (unless it is somehow a flashback or Mirror Universe-related appearance).
     
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  24. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    After a few months of the Harris campaign, I don't need to see more girl-bossing war crimes.
     
  25. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Georgiou flashbacks have potential, if that's not just the opening