Star Wars Episode 3 Deleted Scenes

I posted this in the ROTS DVD forum thread, but it definitely fits here as well.

I don't understand why everyone wants every single deleted scene back in the film and the comparisons to the Lord of the Rings Extended Cuts aren't valid because it's a fact that not every single deleted scene was put back into those cuts. Peter Jackson says this himself on the Return of the King DVD. There were endings shot for Legolas and Gimli and they're not in the film. I agree a couple of the deleted scenes from Episodes I and II should've been in the film, but none of the deleted scenes from Episode 3 are worthy.

The Death of Shaak Ti:
This scene has just as much going for it as it does going against it. Grevious is made slightly more evil with the ruthless killing of Shaak Ti, but Anakin and Obi-Wan just stand there and watch her die. Anakin and Obi-Wan's signals are far too comedic to occur right after a fellow Jedi dies and why exactly don't the battle droids, Grevious' body guards, or Grevious himself attack?

The 3 political scenes:
These shouldn't be in the film. I know these scenes are supposed to show the beginning of the rebellion, but I think they meander and don't really get to the point. The scenes waste of lot of time just to show that some senators are willing to stand up to Palpatine, but there's no real talk about rebellion. Jimmy Smits acting seems kind of off. He delivers the dialogue well, but is moving his hands far too much. It's distracting. The only bit that works is the look shared between Anakin and Padme and Palpatine and Anakin's discussion.

A Plot to Destroy the Jedi:
Not a bad scene by itself, but all of this information is given in the film elsewhere, mostly during the scene in the war room. It would've been an interesting mirror of the scene where Kenobi reports from Kamino to Yoda and Windu.

Yoda arrives on Dagobah:
There's nothing really bad about this scene. The music is fantastic, a sad, but triumphant version of Yoda's theme. You can tell Yoda's sad, but only because Yoda sighs and his ears slightly fold downward. It'd been better if there'd been a close up of Yoda's face. ILM could have made one heartbreaking shot, but if this was put back in the film it wouldn't work. It'd cut off the flow of the ending scenes. As the film stands now the final musical montage focuses solely on the fate of the Skywalker family. Mom died. Dad is Vader. The kids are split up. The only reason we seem some of Kenobi is because he delivers Luke to the Lars family. The Yoda sequence was set to go between Padme's funeral and Vader of the Star Destroyer. It's this way in the comic and I've heard the script as well. As it works now, it's heartbreaking to see the Japor snippet, a reminder of happier times, iris to the Star Destroyer.

 

Does anyone have a list of all the deleted scenes and shots from ROTS? Here's what I know of, am I missing any?

1. Grevious kills Shaak Ti (On DVD)
2. Obi-Wan and Anakin in the fuel chased by destroyer droids (not on DVD)
3. Obi-Wan and Anakin escaping the destroyer droids (On DVD in animatic form)
4. Shots from the Obi-Wan, Anakin, Dooku duel (one shot, Dooku kicking Anakin over a table is in the animatic reel on the official site)
5. The 3 Rebellion scenes (On DVD)
6. Obi-Wan goes to Padme's apartment to speak about Anakin
7. Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Windu discuss a plot to destroy the Jedi (On DVD)
8. Shot of Anakin walking through the temple during the Order 66 scene (the footage of Anakin was in the second trailer with a different background and this shot is also in the animatics reel)
9. Extended shots of security footage showing Anakin defeating Cin Drallig
10. Shot of Padme's ship heading toward Mustafar (in trailer or TV spot)
11. Extended shots and dialogue from the Obi-Wan/Anakin duel, at one point the duel was supposed to be continuous without cuts to other scenes so more completed footage must exist and I know some dialogue was cut from the script
12. Shot of Palpatine's shuttle heading to Mustafar (in trailer)
13. Qui-Gon speaks with Yoda
14. Yoda landing on Dagobah (On DVD)

Am I missing anything?

 

you are not missing anything but the deleted scenes are 6.

- delegation of the 2000 talk to palps
- meeting in padme's apartment(senators,the obi/padme meeting wasnt there)
- grievous kills shaak ti
- landing on degobah
- mace/obi/yoda dsicussing the dark side and the distrust of palpatine.
- another meeting of padme and some other senators but not in her apartment.

 

13. Qui-Gon speaks with Yoda


that scene was not deleted, it was dropped from the script

 

In the scene where Greivous kills Shaak Ti, does anyone know if Shaak Ti says anything during the scene?

 

Ani: "Shaak-Ti"

Shaak-Ti: "I'm sorry, Master Kenobi. I failed"

Grievous: "Ahhhh, General Kenobi. We've been waiting for you...stinking Jedi! *kills Shaak-Ti*"

 

I really wanted Qui-Gon to be more than a mere name that was spoken. Given his importance to figuring out how to come back from the dead and make one, one with the Force. He shoulda been.

 

i too am disapointed that the qui gon scene didnt make the deleted scenes at least.

what went wrong with liam ?? why didnt he came ??

 

- More shots from the Dooku fight
- Origninal shot of Mace greeting Obi, Ani, and Palpy at the crash site
- Lines from Plo Koon and Aayla Secura
- Extended Tion Meddon scene with a MagnaGuard
- Obi-wan selects Boga from the Dragon Pen
- Obi-wan fights the 4 Magnaguards on Utapau
- Extended Obi-wan/Grievous fight
- Extended Kashyyyk battle
- Chewie and Tarfful help Yoda fight off clones
- A droids' arms are ripped off by a wookie
- Yoda pretends to be a madman and the wookies ambush the clones
- The Nos Monster scene
- Order 66: Luminara, Bariss, Quin-lan
- Alternate Anakin/Mace/Palpatine fight scene
- Cin Drallig vs Anakin
- The Can-cell
- A clone stops Obi-wan and Bail, but Obi-wan uses a mind trick
- Wat Tambor's death
- Clones dressed as Jedi attack Yoda and Obi-wan
- Extended Anakin vs Obi-wan

 

6. Obi-Wan goes to Padme's apartment to speak about Anakin

Is this the scene Ewan mentions in this interview? He thought it would get cut because it was too intimate and romantic.

The Obi-Wan 'comforts' Padme scene?


So what's your favorite scene in ROTS?

EWAN: I think it was the first scene I shot out in Australia with Natalie Portman. It was terribly romantic. In the scene Obi-Wan is very sad for her because, in a way, she has lost her husband. It was a very intimate scene and I'm not sure if it hasn't been cut because it was a bit too romantic. And any of the iconic moments, any of the tie-in moments where I'm tying up a plot point between my film and Alec Guinness's are brilliant. There's a scene at the end of the film where I deliver the baby Luke Skywalker to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. Then 'crash' - 2 minutes later there's Luke on his speeder and then Alec Guinness arrives and we're into the Star Wars of my childhood, and I've led us there in my own way, which is a very satisfying thing. There's nothing like being dressed as Obi-Wan Kenobi with a lightsaber on your belt in a spaceship cockpit. It makes me feel like a kid and I can't believe I'm there. I can't believe that I'm playing Obi-Wan Kenobi and I love it!
- Arena magazine, 'Til Death Us Do Part", June 2005

 

You know, they could have at least brought in Liam for the deleted scenes, and had him record some lines. It couldn't have been that much trouble.

 

For the lines that Aayla and Plo Koon had, I'm pretty sure Plo was supposed to have said something, but did Aayla actually have a line, or was that strictly something for the comic?

On the Order 66 part, the actresses that played Luminara and Barriss where not brought back for ROTS. One of the workers at the studio supposedly dressed up as Luminara for the scene just before the battle on Kashyyyk but that was it. However, if they really wanted to add these two characters in, there should be plenty of stock footage from AOTC that wasn't used. Just take the footage and run it through the computers until they get what they would need.

Quinlan Vos was considered, and a file folder was supposedly created with info on the character, but they never actually made a costume or got someone to play the part

 

Luminara was filmed, but they never filmed her death. Bariss and Quinlan were only featured for their deaths, and their deaths were cut. Aayla was supposed to speak to Mace before Cody reports in that Obi-wan had found Grievous. Plo was to say something in his starfighter before his clone commanders recieved Palpatine's transmission.

 

so wait, there's more footage from the Dooku fight?

 

There are only six deleted scenes. No Qui Gon. I agree with an earlier post about the Shaak Ti death. It was a little too comedic watching Obi Wan and Anakin making baseball-like gestures as to what to do next after witnessing Grievous's cold-blooded killing of Shaak Ti. Really after listening to GL explain why the scenes were cut, I could understand and I think that the film does not suffer for it. But again, I wish that GL were a little more indulgent in this seemingly final Star Wars movie. Tell me what fan would have been bored if the movie were to have lasted longer than it did just to explain or expand upon further on the already established story-lines? Oh well, we get what we get and the movie is great! After watching it additional times I have gravitated toward the opinion that this is the best episode of the whole series regardless of the impressions burned into me when I first became a big fan of this story in around 1977-78 with ANH.

 

Why did Lucas cut these scenes??

All of them would have fit perfectly into the movie.

Especially the Rebellion scenes.
Once Padme says she agrees, that basically is the start of the Rebellion. And plus those cut scenes were Bail's time to shine in the movie (if I was Jimmy I'd be pissed).

 

Out of the deleted scenes, the only ones I think should have remained were the scene of Anakin, Palpatine, and Padme together in the office and Yoda on Dagobah. Everything else was pretty much a variation on another scene that made it into the movie or took away from the fact that it was Anakin's story.

I will say that the Shakk Ti death scene was well done, and if you look close you can see Grievous' hand stroking one of Ti's horn's, which seems to add a little more conniving nature to his character IMO as you know what he plans to do. I will say that it would have been more tragic if Ti was taken at the end of the Clone Wars cartoons and you actually had something vested in her as a character.

 

I still think it was a good idea to cut Yoda on Dagobah. It works better if you know nothing of where he went until Ep. V, and then the place is a mystery. Rick McCallum better not convince George to put that back in some day!

 

All the Deleted Scenes are GOOD!!!

They should NOT be CUT!!!

*Sigh* GL is a Running Time Freak...


WHY Terminator II Ultimate Edition has Extended Branching, but Star Wars doesn't use it???????!!!??

I PREFER to see Extended Edition ANY DAY!!!

 

I thought the Dagobah scene would have worked right after the Alderan shot, it was so short like 30 seconds.

Actually I wouldn't have minded any of the deleted scenes, except the scene that was repeated in the medatation room.

The point about the governors was completely missed by cutting the senators scenes, to me that is important information to the story. I never knew that Palps had made governors before the empire.

Also we have a better understanding of why, Anakin acts out at Padme latter on.

My 2 cents on the deleted scenes

 

I really loved the scene with the death of Shaak Ti. I think that it would have gone good in the movie, but kept out the hand signal part and just left if in the deleted scenes. We still need the hand signals, those were great.

 

has lucas completely lost his marbles....the scene with yoda arriving on dagobah...he insists was cut b/c he wanted to follow the children (luke and leia) which made sense, but then he said and b/c we all know where yoda ends up....UMMM GEORGE....if we are watching these movies for the 1st times......IN ORDER....how would we know where yoda ends up?....just more proof that he expects future generations to watch them in the order they were released.....sad really

 

Well, yeah, GL is a human being, not an infallible god. I know it's difficult concept.

 

I didnt say he had to be perfect....but cmon think rationally here.....if we watch them in order how would we have ne clue where yoda ends up if we havent seen them previously?

 

Yeah, but you made it seem like a federal crime that he didn't give us the correct reason, or that his logic was off. So what? He's not perfect. He makes mistakes, like everyone else. And even if future generations watched them in order, they'd figure out where Yoda went by Episode V.