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Which is why I said, "For episodes 8-9 and the canon to flat-out ignore the 30 years in between ROTJ and TFA would be a worst nightmare scenario. It's inportant to me that Snoke and Sheev exist in the same universe (even if not at the same time).

 

Which is why I pointed out there's precedent for this sort of thing before, and there's no reason to believe they wouldn't fill a thirty year gap.

 

Except that's not the chronology, we're not talking of post-ep 9 stories here but pre-TFA!

Pre-TFA I was understanding of the hesitancy to do anything major with the 30 years gap, but now the film is out and done? On a supposedly planned trilogy? It'd be timidity of the worst kind.

I'd much rather buy that they're up to something, but they just haven't announced it yet.

 

"Planning" and "set in stone" aren't the same thing. I'm sure they don't want their decisions dictated to them by more pre-existing material than necessary.

 

If that turns out to be so it'll be pretty pathetic.

 

At some point the goal of avoiding limiting future material has got to give way to actually writing that material, though, doesn't it?

 

Besides Matt, we're talking of the people in charge of Star Wars! Therefore, if anyone's doing the dictating, it'll be them!

Unless Boss A tells an author: Yeah, tell that story of a war 20 years before TFA, then later Boss B tells another author: That guy (boss A) didn;t know anything, tell the real story of X...., it should be impossible for the kind of situation you've sketched.

At the very minimum, they should have a general schema of:

• Story Elements - A-K = Off Limits
• Story Elements - L-Z = Free to use

Why? Because they know the story they are telling and what it does and doesn't involve.

Unless, of course, they lack the ability to organise a booze-up in a cantina....

 

Yeah, but the movies have always taken precedent, which is even stickier now that everything is canon.

 

Now you're scraping the bottom of the Excuses barrel....

 

How so? I'm sure their priority right now is giving the filmmakers as much free reign as possible over the next few years.

 

Giving the filmakers 'free rein' = 'no plan'. For me, these are mutually exclusive terms - it's one or the other, it can't be both.

I've heard this line before, that yes, there's a plan, but it's an organic, ever-evolving one - yeah, right.

That was NJO, the story that began the EU tendency of telling a story by burning the previous one - 'nuff said.

 

This is not how creative things get made.

 

If this trilogy is planned out, as it supposedly is, then how does Johnson and Trevarrow have free reign?

They've hired to do a job, they know what it is and that there will be a measure of latitude in how to deliver it, but not total.

So, what's wrong with this picture?

 

Literally two months ago it was announced that Episode VIII was undergoing massive rewrites to refocus the script to more heavily centered on Finn, Poe, and Rey, whom the studio had not anticipated would be so beloved.

Abrams said that, throughout filming for TFA, he kept getting calls and chats with Johnson about possibly working things into TFA that would help support things he had planned for Episode VIII.

Previously, there was worry that they would have to rework TFA due to Harrison Ford's injury.

Plans shift. The smaller the detail, the more likely it is to shift. People have different ideas. People have better ideas one day than they did before. Actors get sick. People quit. Something happens that changes everyone's thinking. None of this stuff is static, even if it is planned ahead of time.

 

And that is reason enough to be timid as hell on telling any story set before these new films?

I'm always open to people changing their minds, that things happen but, if it's a well-run project, the impact of those will be contained.

They should still be able to say you can tell these stories but not those stories.

 

That is because the films now completely control the universe, even though everything is consistent. Lucas didn't worry about what the EU did, which gave the EU the free reign to do a lot, but now that slack is gone and the books, comics, and video games appear to have been reduced to ancillary material for the films and television. This is just boring, and makes the books, comics, and video games almost completely pointless, because the consistency gained isn't worth it when the EU already did a decent job doing multimedia projects and cross medium tie-ins.

 

Speaking of propaganda, have we all seen the Bloodline posters yet?

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And my total favorite.

 

Yeah, but they have the Internet version of Quantum Armour for dealing with that contingent.

Well, that and their real superweapon.... Jason Fry.

 

This is a legitimate question. The Delegation of 2000 was just the 'loyal opposition' which, considering Sheev's support, had minimal influence. So what did they mean by this?

 

The others are neutral. Of course.

 

I assume the Delegation of 2,000 comprized not only "full" senators, but also aides and junior representatives. I believe there were 2,000 "actual" senators in the whole Senate, but much more people if you count the other aforementioned types of delegates.

EDIT: We also known there were "only" one thousand and twenty-four repulsorpods in the Senate Chamber, which means, well, one thousand and twenty-four delegations. We must assume some sectors were represented by several senators.

 

There's a brief titbit in ICS about how many plantes, systems, etc are in Padme's constituency. I'll not be home until late tomorrow, so if someone can post it for me that'd be grand. I believe it's on the page for the Ep.II Naboo Cruiser.
Anyways, the sheer scale of it makes it obvious that there are either multiple Senators per delegation, or lots of junior members, because a single person couldn't possibly cover everything.
Perhaps there are 2,000 "senior" or major Senators, and only 1,024 get pods? Or there are two Senators per sector, like the US has two per state, and the 2,000 number is just a round that looks better than 2,048 on a poster.

 

In Legends, some sectors definitely had more than one senior senator: Orn Free Taa, Connus Trell, and Chom Frey Kaa were all three co-senators of the Gaulus sector at the same time. Another example: it seems that Com Fordox and Garm Bel Iblis both represented the Corellian sector together at some point. And then there's the Gran trio Ainlee Teem, Aks Moe, and Baskol Yeesrim. Will this carry over in NuCanon? Who knows...