Full Series Star Wars Rebels Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

This is in response to the previous reply. For some reason, when I click the "Reply" link on a PC, it no longer quotes the reply to which I am replying. Does anyone else experience this...? Anyway...

Not necessarily. There were multiple fronts, different combatants, and different reasosn for the fighting. For example, Darth Maul's union with the Death Watch Mandalorialn and other crime families were separate from the typical "Republic vs. Separatist" fights. ...Right? There were separate things going on - which constituted warring for different reasons. So, I fell that "Clone War" and/or "Clone Wars" works.

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Exactly.

When I heard "Clone Wars" mentioned in ANH, I pictured armies of clones fighting other clones. Really confused me as a child.

 

I always though as a kid that the clone wars were a series of wars the Jedi fought with evil clone armies which lead to their order becoming very week. At least that's the thought my mind made when I heard Old Ben giving Luke a history lesson.

 

Technically, with the way it has been portrayed in TCW that isn't wrong. At least IMO. I mean you are practially fighting a war on each, individual world in the SWU that is a war unto itself.

 

Clone War makes it sound like there was one, Wars makes it sound there was a series. The concept changed by the time Lucas eventually came up with his own final or public idea probably by the time they were set for AOTC to start production. I don't think he even had an actual script for AOTC until way after the concept designers worked on stuff that he eventually came up with something. Jedi fighting Mandalorians was one early concept floating around, and Leigh Bracket's ESB script contained some early ideas about clones, like Lando Kadar. Kenner had an idea for a sequel toyline about a master cloner and true power behind the Clone War that even the Emperor feared, but it was canceled.

 

Me (before Rebels Season 2): "I get it. The overwhelming might of the Empire necessitated the formation of the Rebel Alliance." Expects Season 2 to be about how badly the Ghost Crew loses after they are driven off of Lothal.

Me (after Season 2): "Well, err, ... Oh I get it! It's the disorganization of the rebels which necessitated the formation of the Rebel Alliance. Because, all their victories are on impulse and they have NO LONG-TERM PLAN. The whole crew acts like they have too much ADHD and can't stay focused on finding a good place for a Rebel Base... That was supposed to be their mission, right? They desperately need the leadership of Bail, Mon Mothma, Dodonna, etc. to accomplish, well, anything that takes more than a day

Someone should approach that fourth wall and call the Ghost Crew out on it, too. Hondo would be funny, giving them a quizzical stare like 'if you aren't doing it for money, why do you risk your life for these 'adventures'?' Or Maul, while talking with Ezra. Because, as we saw with Pre Viszla, Maul is the condescending **** who will tell you WHY you are stupid.

 

I'm starting to wonder if the midseason break, for TFA, has actually hurt Rebels.

 

Yeah, especially with that midseason trailer. That break made the season feel stretched out, plus add the cool trailer and now all I Can do about it is complain about the meaningless filler episodes cause I'm super excited about the KOTOR like ones and it's taking so long to get there.

 

Inherently this is the challenge to longer network-standard length seasons, which is why we've seen most of the more successful shows in recent years adopt the 8-13 episode format that places like the UK have been on for years.

While many have complained about how short the first season was, looking at it now there wasn't as much fat either. Now with 22 episodes, people are complaining about too many deviations from what some see as the "real" story. I think it's also probable that even though there's twice as many episodes, the budget probably did not double- which restricts what you can do in other ways: new locations, new characters... This is a challenge in live action shows, where you have to "save" for budget for certain episodes. It's especially problematic for animation where everything has to be built and animated.

 

Season one was probably a "test" to see if Disney would take it further (an educated guess, on my behalf); judging by the recent announcement, Rebels does seem to be living on a season-by-season format - meaning it could halted once a season ends. Long term planning might be difficult to impossible.

If it is true (again, me guessing), then it would explain why the budget is moderate at best and exploration on new characters/locations is very limited. Time is too short.

 

Yoda saying Clone War at the end of Attack of the Clones makes sense to me, as he is only commenting on the beginning of the conflict and has no way of knowing how bad it will get and how many different sides there will be. Cham likely uses the singular because he was only concerned with their battle and not the conflict as a whole.

 

Yeah, I remember him not being too bothered about the war as a whole during TCW.

 

I can never quote a reply either.

 

AWWWW YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!

 

Good.

 

I'm glad for it TBH.

 

Have to admit, so am I. They can get away with Leia once because she was already working against the empire in her own subtle ways at this point, but Han and Luke are still doing their own thing and minding their own business.

Besides if we ever need a smooth-talking smuggler with real smooth-talking action, that's what we have Lando for.

 

In a way, I hope season 3 occurs at the same time as Rogue One events and thus allows Rebels to go beyond ANH in season 4.

 

That's actually an interesting idea. Between now and next season, have a small time skip of a year to a year and half. Give the characters some updated looks, and continue on fighting the Empire. I like it.

 

I'm pretty sure we will see at least some of the Rogue One character in the show when the movie is out.

 

If they wanted to do the timetable right, the way to play it is have one or two of the characters on the show before the movie comes out and not make a mention of the connection until after the movie comes out. I don't think many of the characters from R1 will make it out alive. Just a feeling I have. What you could also do is have a three episode arc before R1 comes out, having them gathering intel and equipment for a large operation another rebel cell is preparing to launch. Then after R1 comes out (which Rebels likely would return after a midseason break as it has the last couple of seasons) things and the state of the rebellion can change a bit. Maybe even have a mention of the Yavin Base being evacuated.

 

I can understand no Luke right now but NO HAN? Filoni needs to reconsider this!!! The rebels could meet him for some other reason at some point in the show for smuggling help or something like that!

 

If R1 characters appears in Rebels, I expect it to happen after the movie comes out so it doesn't show too much.

 

Han would need to be handled in a special way.

 

Pretty much agree.

Do you reckon Rebels will have a break for Rogue One, like with TFA?