Full Series Star Wars Rebels Season 4 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

It's called the writers got bored and didn't feel like going that direction. Otherwise known as bad writing.

 

It will be interesting to see what loose ties from TCW they tie up

 

I hope we see how Saw gets into his physical state as seen in RO.

could it have been Vader who put him in that state? Would be ironic, Anakin trained Saw as a Rebel and decades later makes him more machine than man.

 

Things that I think are still up for grabs:

-Sabine's mandalorian plot (maybe two-three episodes dedicated to this with Kanan or Ezra joining the fight at the last minute)
-What ever happened to Hondo? At least one more cameo from him could be fine
-What happened to Ketsu?
-The fate of Lothal
-Ashoka's fate (they don't need to portray the crew meeting her, maybe Ann Ashoka centric episode)
-The fate of Zeb (I think that he will sacrifice at certain point)
-Confirm that Hera, Rex and Chopper are with the Rebels Alliance on ANH
-The fate of Kanan and Ezra (the most important plot)
-Explain the cray cray personality of Saw maybe a Jedha centric episode/arc.


They have plenty of time with those 22 episodes to slightly address all the pending plots, enough with OT cameos, we don't need Lando, Han, Leia to show up, of course Mon, Bail and Tarkin will be prominent next season but they are needed the other cameos don't.

And yes this needs to be the last season, at this point (3x22) they should be around 14 months BBY enough time to center the last episodes on the Scariff Battle (were I think the show will finish).

 

I do think Vader will have to play a more active role going forward. If we're going to see Ahsoka's fate mentioned in some form or another he's really the one who has the most insight and if Kanan is to die, Vader's realistically the only I can Imagine being able to physically pull that off. Though I think Thrawn's fine from Tarkin, he may not have captured the Rebel leadership for public execution, but he largely destroyed Phoenix Squadron and basically wiped out the Rebels in the Lothal sector, so it's not a sign of incompetence or anything that Tarkin can get too worked up over.

 

Didn't they already confirm that inquisitors would be back next season?

 

Things I'm looking forward to the most next season include:

Sabine/Clan Wren/Mandalorian Civil War: How will the fighting in Mandalore effect Sabine and Clan Wren's status? Will they benefit from it, or suffer notable casualties as a result of the fighting? Will she and Tristan be able to rescue their father from being a hostage? I also hope we get to see more development of Sabine's relationships with Tristan and Ursa. I'm also excited to see Bo-Katan again. I'm curious on to what she's been up too the last 17 years since the Empire has taken control of Mandalore. Maybe she's with Korkie, and he might make an appearance?

Ezra/Kanan's fate: Will Ezra continue to further develop his powers? I'm curious to see how Ezra will continue to develop in playing an important role in the Rebellion. What about Kanan, since he told Ezra he feels he has nothing left to teach him at least force-wise. If Kanan dies, how will it effect Ezra? Hopefully we get to see them explore for more Jedi lore and knowledge. Maybe they run into some hidden Sith knowledge or holocrons on Yavin, which could recanonize Exar Kun.

Still can't believe Season 3 is over. It was a quick 5-6 months. Now, we'll just have to wait and see till Season 4 opens up in another 6 months or so.

 

i'm interested to see what they do with Pryce.

 

She really didn't like the thought of dissapointing Thrawn at the end there. I'm sure the shippers will have a good time with that

 

That's a thing?

 

Weirdly enough. Not as much as Kallus/Zeb, but there's a few "Thyrce" or "Prawn" shippers around.

 

Yup, they did

 

Actually there is only one person (two if you count the owl as a person) who knows what happened to Ahsoka after she entered the Sith temple since Vader believes she's gone (i.e. Pablo) he wouldn't know what exactly happened to her.
Some predictions:
- Mandalore and the mission to rescue Sabine's father and find a new leader (team Bo-Katan)
- Tensions between Saw and the other leaders. Since Kallus is now officially part of the rebellion it could create tensions between them.
- I don't think we'll see Vader much beside what happened once the Sith temple closed. Remember how they talked about the cost of the cape and how he's not interested to hunt down the Ghost crew and also how they don't want to take Vader's time? There was only one reason why they brought Vader into the show so I don't expect much. For the inquisitors, as we are closing to ANH, I suspect we'll see the phasing out of the inquisitor program like Filoni hinted last year.
- Kanan and Ezra exploring Yavin IV, finding Force stuff and the Ghost crew continuing to do missions for the rebellion, the usual basically.
- More Thrawn, assuredly. Seems like he'll be the main villain of the series from now on. Well, until they decide to kill him off.
- More Hera and droid stories starring AP-5 and Chopper
- Wasn't there supposed to be a Lando episode somewhere? Probably see Leia again and Bail, Mothma, Ackbar? There has to be cameos.

My hopes: More diverse and less empty environments. Going to different planets in the same episode and more diverse mission and that means not just infiltration episodes which was way too overused in season 3 imo.

 

They seemed like they definitely are excited to show us some new animation techniques

 

Filoni hinted Vader was pretty much done in Rebels, well in a significant factor. He might make a one off appearance, but I'm not too sure.

Season 4 might be just one huge Mandalore arc and the show ends, for good, at the start of Rogue One.

 

I believe it was either Pablo or Filoni that said that even the unproduced arcs of TCW is considered canon...so the Siege of Mandalore is canon. Anakin loans his 501st troopers to Ahsoka before he and OB1 have to leave to go rescue Chancellor Palpatine (i.e. the beginning of RotS). The arc ends with Ahsoka leaving Bo-Katan as the provisional leader of Mandalore. Maybe, just maybe, in S3, we'll get a character (Bo-Katan) telling another character (Sabine, Hera, etc.) about the Siege so that we'll get little clips of what happened.

Spoiler

Did Aftermath:Empire's End, or some other source, say that Palpatine brought Thrawn into the Empire because of his knowledge of the Unknown Region? Or, is it that Thrawn learns about the UR and relays that info to Palpatine?

I ask this because the answer could determine whether or not Thrawn should live past Rebels. I'd like to see Palps send Thrawn to the Unknown Region to gather information and to await further contact, meaning that he could come back sometime after RotJ.

 

I've said this before, and it bears repeating, EVERY conceivable ship is a thing. And that's in general, not just this fandom.

Well there's your first mistake, trusting Reddit.



Anywho, considering how close we are to the RO/ANH timeframe, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if this were the last season, especially considering that after the realese of The Last Jedi, all of the "big reveals" that would be spoiled by a series set between the OT and ST may be out of the bag, so I can see them moving right into that potential series.

 

When I google it - I get this quote from Empire's End:

Spoiler

"Palpatine had one in the navy who knew something of the Unknown Regions: Admiral Thrawn, an alien with ice-blue skin who came from beyond the borders of the known galaxy. Palpatine only kept that one around because of what he knew of traversing those deadly interstices. Much of what Thrawn knew went into the computations of this machine.”

Of course, that's from Rax's point of view - he may be biased some.

 

I really don't think we need to see Hondo again in this show- he really should get his own show or something. I don't think Lothal can have very interesting fate in this show- probably it remains imperial controlled- They cannot really free entire planet before ANH that would contradict entire "first victory over the Empire"- thing. I think Rex should die before ANH, Ezra however not necessarily, but Kanan needs to go.

 

Nah Rex needs to be on Endor.

 

I think the fact that Rex survived this attack and the fact that he was in the conversation about Yavin, which essentially bridges Rebels to the original trilogy, almost guarantees that he's Gramps from ROTJ.

 

I was actually thinking about this the other day. It can't be a coincidence that they gave Rex the exact same beard/mustache as the guy on Endor. I'm thinking ever since they designed Rex they wanted him to be that guy. Otherwise I feel like his design might have been different.

 

You guys ain't going to like what I have to say but I hope that Filoni does not do the Battle of Scariff in Animation. That should be left to the movie. We know already that Herra will take part in the battle and she is a general and that chopper is there also. We don't know about anyone else. I also hope, I guess its more of a wish and a prayer but I hope that we do get 5 seasons that way we cross 100 episodes just like the clone wars. We all can agree on this, they have to end it good or know one will follow star wars animation again, or a least take it serious. And lets face it, with Disney and new canon which became official canon, TCW and Rebels are very important and are attached to the movies at the hip.

 

Oh how I wish Young Han Solo had been first so that Rebels S4 would complete series and lead right into Rogue One in May 2018.
Movie's story wouldn't change much, but many characters would get backstory in Rebels.
I'm thinking Admiral Raddus replaced by Hera, Cassian replaced by Kallus, AP-5 in Rebels is replaced by K-2SO. Possibly Chirrut/Baze replaced with Kanan/Zeb.
Ezra's story should be self-contained in Rebels, R1 doesn't need Jedi. In my version, Kanan's powers much weaker, Ezra needs Maul to advance training.
Jyn and Galen Erso, and Orson Krennic would be saved for R1 and not appear in Rebels, as Rebellion should not know about Death Star yet.
Season 4 becomes Ezra's dark side struggle and final fate (likely involving Vader and maybe Ahsoka), Sabine's quest to unite and rule Mandalor, Hera's quest to somehow defeat Thrawn before Scarif without causing ANH crawl discrepancy, Kanan/Zeb do something with Saw that points toward R1 without revealing Death Star (Quest to extract imperial defector Bodhi?). Somehow involve development of X-wings. Kallus and K-2SO adapt to life as rebels. Give Leia something to do and let Alderaan be an important location for the season.

 

Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka all need to die - no exceptions.