Discussion Star Wars: Starfighter (Formerly Ryan Gosling and Sean Levy A Star Wars Story)

Pull an anti-TROS and bring only Rose.

 

There is a rumor in leaks subreddit that Ryan Gosling and young male padawan are the two main characters. So could Ryan be a jedi Master or someone close to one of Rey's padawans. And on Daniel Ritchman Patreon, a male actor have been offered the main villain role, who will have a small part but will be important. Maybe this villain can be the villain for the new saga.

 

Would Rey even have had enough time to train Ryan Gosling first? Since it’s only 5-6 years after TRoS? Maybe these are rogue Jedi of some kind?

 

It dosent say he be a jedi but another actor could be a Jedi. So the question is? Is Ryan's character the jedi Master or a friend to the Jedi. A true master and Jedi padawan story not since TPM. And 5-6 years is enough for Rey to train a potential jedi yes. Luke and Rey didnt have mutch training. Ezra had 3-4 years. He wont be a jedi like a jedi of the old Republic that trained their entire lifes.

 

Gosling has quite the range as an actor but i don't see Jedi Master with him. I think we're all thinking Han Solo Rogue

 

Maybe thats the idea he is like Han Solo Rogue but jedi knight like If Han Solo wa a jedi.

 

So Kyle Katarn?

 

Never played the game but i hear he was a gunslinging jedi like Kanam in Rebels?

 

He starts off as a mercenary who's hired by the Rebellion to steal the plans to the Death Star, and eventually discovers he's Force-sensitive, becomes a Jedi, and joins Luke's Jedi Academy as an instructor.

 

I remember hearing both Kanan Jarrus and Cal Kestis was like Kyle Katarn. And Rogue One with Jyn Erso did the steal death star plans. Also Andor was another Kyle Katarn i heard

 

Some rumours regarding the potential villain…

Spoiler

According to insider DanielRPK on Patreon, an offer has already been made to a male actor for the main villain role. What’s surprising is that the character is not physically intimidating.
This isn’t the typical towering Sith Lord or heavily armored warrior we usually expect in Star Wars. Instead, the antagonist seems to rely on something other than brute force.

Another unexpected detail is the screen time. Even though this character is the film’s main villain, he will only be on set for two weeks. That means his role, while important, won’t take up much of the movie.
This could hint at a story where the villain operates from the shadows or has a presence that lingers without being constantly on screen. It also raises the possibility of a larger threat that extends beyond just one character

I hope they have a better use for Ryan Gosling than just generic stoic Jedi Master, most of the Jedi we’ve seen in live action before have been rather dry, and it would feel like waste to strand an actor with so much range in a role like that. A Kyle Katarn-esque character could be interesting though.

Then again there could be implications here for the Jedi Order as a whole. If Rey has been forced to recruit grown adults due to a general lack of available teachers, resources ect… then we could see a Jedi Order populated by more colourful characters in the future.

 

I don't believe there would be any good reason at all for Rey to train adults. Thats the point of Starting small. If anything training adults would be much harder and far more risky.

 

I mean, Rey herself was an adult when she was trained, as was Luke. Unless she’s planning on replicating the old Jedi Order’s practice of taking children from their parents and raising them without families or emotional attachments, adults make as much sense as children do.

 

I think Reys Jedi Order will be a mix of children and adults. And the families willingly give their children to the jedi. So i dont think Rey will have mutch issues with finding children. Maybe some homeless kids get taken in by Rey like broom boy. I can see Ryan Gosling character being Rey's first student after Finn. And if rumors are true we can see both characters like Ahsoka and Anakin, be like brother and sister relationship

 

Well no they don't. its just ignoring Lucas's logic and trying to indicate that the jedi were wrong for generations and new jedi Rey is right that anyone can be trained because... don't think about it too hard.

Unless you decide to ignore attachments, which Lucasfilm have shown that they do at least acknowledge that part in their shows. As that part has been very important with Episode 3. Which is why they train kids. Thats always been the point. its not an excuse to take kids away from their parents, its about training those who will be able to adjust easier and better emotionally to the force.

Its not a case of Adults can't be trained. its that you are training people who already have emotional baggage into jedi. Thats why it would almost be a total idiotic thing for Rey to do if thats where she started. Let alone several adults. Yikes!

 

Ahsoka Tano trained an adult Sabine. Luke trained as an adult so did Rey and Ezra as young teenager. I think the rule of Only kids died with the old Jedi Order. You can teach adults too the dangers off attachment and maybe they can be better. I say Luke and Rey are as mutch jedi as Mace and Obi Wan.

 

Whille everyone would feel better if Sabine was force sensitive. I think thats fairly up in the air is she actually is force sensitive, or its just anyone can use the force logic. But then sabine did choose her attachment over saving the galaxy. So there is that.

And every adult thats been trained has had emotional attachments that did make them struggle as Jedi. Again how is that more beneficial for Rey as a starting point?

 

Its healthy for the jedi to not just use child soldiers, children, teenagers, adults and elderly.

 

I think the Ahsoka season 1 finale made it pretty clear that Sabine is force-sensitive.

 

Yes Sabine is force sensitive but weaker then the Normal jedi joe

 

From an out of universe perspective it makes more sense for Lucasfilm to focus on telling stories about adults, and young adults learning to be Jedi. We the audience can follow them on that journey in a way that wouldn’t be possible if said protagonist was three.

For as often as people mention that the Jedi’s ideals of non-attachment are taken from asian beliefs like Buddhism, it could be interesting for Star Wars writers to explore how these beliefs relate other Asian philosophies such as Filial Piety (a concept originating in Confucian and Daoist ethics) for instance.
Say during her travels to recruit more Force users to her fledgling Jedi Order, Rey meets a young person (late teens-early twenties) who is strong with the Force, and attempts to convince them to join her. However we discover that this individual is also the only remaining relative of a now frail and elderly grandparent, who raised them after the rest of their family was killed in a First Order attack some year prior.
The internal conflict between their duty toward the greater galaxy as a potential Jedi, and their duty toward their remaining family could make for a compelling character dynamic.

Also I would love to see Finn as a Jedi.

 

Sorry DP

 

I don’t think Lucas’ own logic is that this is a healthy practice. He very clearly depicted the Jedi as having reached a point of severe hubris and arrogance as a result of centuries of the same practices. The Jedi’s inability to self-reflect on their practices and beliefs were pivotal to their downfall. They needed a Vatican II moment, and they refused to do it. This is a stance that Lucas himself demonstrates throughout the PT and TCW. He’s depicting flawed heroes in the Jedi.


Furthermore, I don’t think it was at all Lucas’ intent to demonstrate that only children with no emotional attachments to their family were fit to be Jedi. Luke alone has to be proof of that. In the end, his emotional attachment to his father is what turns Vader back to the light side and defeats the Emperor.

If the Jedi can only function by indoctrinating Jedi, then the Jedi do not deserve to exist, period. It makes them functionally indistinguishable from the First Order doing the same for their stormtroopers.

 

I dunno, I think there is plenty of evidence that Lucas himself aimed to depict the PT era Jedi’s practices and beliefs as correct, and even described them as “the most moral in the galaxy”. Im also pretty sure Lucas has stated in interviews that Luke would have collected two-three year olds to build his new Jedi Order.

I agree though, it is very flawed thinking, and I hope that Rey will chose to build her Jedi Order on the backs of people old enough to understand the commitment that they’re making.