FF:NSW Star Wars Weapons

I agree that a Jedi could stop bullets with the force. But how do you block a gun set on stun as it comes out all circular?? Can A jedi just shake it off. Sorry to get off topic

 

In the EU its stated a few times that if the Jedi knows its coming they can be ready for it and shake it off

 

Stay on topic, Stay on topic Red Three!

Talking about the movies here peeps

I am well aware of all the lovely conventional arms within Dark Forces Slavey

 

Actually, I'm of the opinion that bullets would not be deflected by a sabre blade, rather, they would come straight through it, only molten...

 

I dunno, depends what type of metals were being fired. Star Wars, titanium durasteel alloy whatever versus the ones from our time.


If there were Uzis in the Star Wars universe, then there'd have to be pimps!

And it'd be like GTAIII.....in space.

 

Dude, what do you think Jabba was?

 

I was thinking of a pimp, more like Lando

Jabba, I dunno, he's more of a crime boss than anything. He doesnt specialise in women in scantly outfits alone, he does the full weapons and drugs trade too

 

Notorious J.A.B.B.A. is a tru gangsta playa.

 

For real.

 

Um, what about force pushing ?? If a bullet was coming at a jedi, they should be able to force push it away - kinda Matryx style, I guess....

Stun would present a problem.

 

given the physical effect the sabres appear to have on metallic objects (rails in bespin, vader's arm, the moment when qui-gonn first inserts his sabre into the door)-i'd say that *if* a jedi placed a sabre blade in a position to 'deflect' a projectile, it would probably either deflect (according upon the mass of the projectile, the velocity at which it is travelling, and the angle at which the blade obstructed it's path) or more than likely sublimate...

in otherwords the movies appear to treat the blade as if it has mass and instantly can vaporise through metal without leaving residue. note that i know that the qui-gonn's blade starts to cause a state change of the surrounding blast door, but he was still able to simply insert the blade into the door (thanks to the cheesy effects or lack thereof )

on a related note: i finally got my jango fett blasters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I knew I could count on Oblio_Fett to bring forth a concise precise

 

But, Oblio, in relation to the velocity, was it a European or African projectile ??

 

and could it grip it on the husk?

 

huh? i don't know that aaaargh! so... how does keith know so much about swallows?

 

without further ado

KING ARTHUR:
Whoa there!
[clop clop clop]
SOLDIER #1:
Halt! Who goes there?
ARTHUR:
It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle of Camelot. King of the Britons, defeater of the Saxons, Sovereign of all England!
SOLDIER #1:
Pull the other one!
ARTHUR:
I am,... and this is my trusty servant Patsy. We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights who will join me in my court at Camelot.
I must speak with your lord and master.
SOLDIER #1:
What? Ridden on a horse?
ARTHUR:
Yes!
SOLDIER #1:
You're using coconuts!
ARTHUR:
What?
SOLDIER #1:
You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together.
ARTHUR:
So?
We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercia, through--
SOLDIER #1:
Where'd you get the coconuts?
ARTHUR:
We found them.
SOLDIER #1:
Found them? In Mercia? The coconut's tropical!
ARTHUR:
What do you mean?
SOLDIER #1:
Well, this is a temperate zone.
ARTHUR:
The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
SOLDIER #1:
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
ARTHUR:
Not at all. They could be carried.
SOLDIER #1:
What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
ARTHUR:
It could grip it by the husk!
SOLDIER #1:
It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios!
A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
ARTHUR:
Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
SOLDIER #1:
Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
ARTHUR:
Please!
SOLDIER #1:
Am I right?
ARTHUR:
I'm not interested!
SOLDIER #2:
It could be carried by an African swallow!
SOLDIER #1:
Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow. That's my point.
SOLDIER #2:
Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
ARTHUR:
Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?!
SOLDIER #1:
But then of course, uh, African swallows are non-migratory.
SOLDIER #2:
Oh, yeah.
SOLDIER #1:
So, they couldn't bring a coconut back anyway.
[clop clop clop]
SOLDIER #2:
Wait a minute! Supposing two swallows carried it together?
SOLDIER #1:
No, they'd have to have it on a line.
SOLDIER #2:
Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of creeper!
SOLDIER #1:
What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
SOLDIER #2:
Well, why not?

that's cleared up then, next question, if a thor shot was dropped on the ocean, what would happen?

 

Just to bring this sligfhtly back on topic, my apologies...


the movies appear to treat the blade as if it has mass and instantly can vaporise through metal without leaving residue.

I don't think so, it's like cutting bread, it simply slices through and cleaves the 2 halves.
When Qui-Gon pushes his sabre through that door, it acts exactly like I'd expect a laser scalpel to, clean cut, but leaving it in there would heat up the surrounding material until it melted.
I don't think a blade like that would vapourise a titanium penetrator wrapped in a brass jacket like the standard SS109 military rounds used in most of todays semi auto assault rifles.

I think if you put a Jedi up against a soldier with an SKS 7.62mm, you'd have bits of Jedi...

 

Apology accepted, we all do that sometimes


I've no idea why the sks 7.62 was released in australia as a pig rifle, but be that as it may, it'd be a great weapon against a jedi.

A shotgun would be the hardest to deflect, mainly cos the hail of lead heading the jedi's way would be pretty hard to block them all, unless he/she had lightning fast force push.

in jk2, you pretty much can't fire projectile weapons at the bosses cos they just push it away, but if you fire a rocket near them, then they don't deflect it.

 

that's a pretty thick knife i was simply saying the effects (or lack thereof) simply allow a blade to penetrate material except for obi-wan's arm...

using your laser scalpel analogy (or more accurately using lasers to cut metal or similar material) supports my theory as this is via sublimation except in the case where the ability of the surronding volume of gas is unable to absorb the material's vapour. you also have to take in account the 'recoil effect' for the escaping vapour as to how easily the blade would enter the blast door.

lead vapourises at ~1750 degrees c which is well below the 3000 degrees c or so average temp at the material's surface that cutting lasers tend to work with. which really supports you comment about a titanium jacketed slug since its vapourisation point is around 3300 degrees c. it would be really cool to see what happens... or better yet, how about a phalanx firing depleted uranium pellets (4000 degrees c vapourisation point, 4500 rpm in upto 1500 round bursts)

btw, i like your choice of the sks 7.62, but you might as well go with the rpd 7.62

 

Oblio, can you repeat that last post, but this time in English please, for the people here who feel like they are in the Airforce namely me

 

look it up mate

even I, with bugger all knowledge of guns (although i play cyberpunk rpg a fair bit) know the diff between a rpd and an sks

 

rpd - great rof, belt feed, and light weight compared to other similar smg's. great for firing a bunch of rounds at a bunch of jedi in the arena.

sks - great when you want to pluck off individual targets, sling it around your shoulder but there is no major benefit over, say, a chicom knock-off... i'd rather have my old custom black ar 10 flat top (.308) w/ stainless barrel and ar 30 stock and just about any 1911 style .45

edit: and if you meant the part at the top - heat make metal hot. metal turn to gas. gas escape. lead turn to gas easily. titanium and depleted uranium not turn to gas easily. man like woman. birds and bees different. light side strong, dark side stronger, gaffa tape both light and dark-strongest of all.

 

That just went right over my head
I just want a gun that will shoot a bunch of bullets, has minimal recoil, and is easy to conceal
I speak english not texas redneck language

 

Just a warning guys, last time someone asked me in a thread about my previous work experience with guns & what kind of ammo I liked, Shara locked the thread.

For the record, I don't like belt fed weapons in a sandy environment, unless it comes with an attatchable ammmo bag...

 

we are talking about projectile weapons, which is why i said taking out jedi in the arena vs. deflecting them with a sabre. very much an appropriate topic.

and i agree, sand really sucks - especially for belt feed or any magazine that you can't smack on your helmet. i'm suprised the steyr is used here in australia as i was under the impression they didn't like sand. sand on geonosis would really mess with the belt feed