Survivor 12: Panama - Exile Island (non-spoiler thread)

Well someone here may have to rethink his Final 2 Prediction...

 

Im still sticking with my prediction of Terry and Danielle in the final two.

 

With Shane gone, the only way Terry can win is to bring Danielle.

I hope Terry throws the immunity challenge just so he can use the hidden immunity and screw with people. And I think he will lose it, because Jeff said in TV guide at the beginning of the season that it comes into play and really pisses someone off. also, the title of the next episode is "Someone Needs a Whambulance"

 

Yea, I remember reading that, too. Maybe Terry just says **** it and sits out the immunity challenge. Extremely unlikely that he'd do that but it'd be a great way to get back at the Casayas (although arrogance like that probably wouldnt win him any votes).

 

If he did that then it's very likely Aras would win Immunity and then Danielle would probably be Terry's pick to go, which in the end would be disasterous for Terry. He needs to win simply to keep Immunity away from Aras, and then hope he can sway Danielle and Cirie to get him gone too (which judging by Cirie's past comments of doing "whatever it takes" to improve her spot and Danielle's wanting to team with Terry next week in the preview, seems like a good possibility). I wouldn't be surprised at all if Aras goes next week.

Meanwhile Terry is steadily building allies in the Jury. Austin, Sally, Courtney and Shane would probably vote for him against any of the Casaya's left. Courtney and Shane purely out of betrayal. He does need to tone down the arrogance somewhat though, he doesn't need to be actively hated.

 

It's good to see that ole Shane went out like a whiney bitch. Nothing like consistency.


And I do agree that the bulk of the people on the Jury thus far'll be in favor of Terry if he makes it to the final two...which I'm sure he will. He's completely unbeatable right now.

 

IMO (and this is only my opinion), I find Terry a loathsomely arrogant self-satisfied dipweed, and he appears to have replaced his spouse with a Stepford Wife of almost equal charm. It seems to me that the producers are throwing this game in his direction: they know how popular Tom Weston was. But Tom was genuinely interesting and engaging. He also had more of a clue. Terry is clueless about other people to an almost pathological degree (witness his condescending remarks to Aras.) The producers could give the rest of them more of a chance if the challenges were based occasionally on brain power, as they sometimes have been in the past.

Yes, Shane's stupid enough to hold it against the Casaya survivors instead of blaming himself for over-confidence and underestimating people. He's a complete fool, without Terry's athletic abilities and with his arrogance.

 

The old expression is "It ain't bragging if you back it up" and so far Terry has backed it up and them some. But yeah, he is an arrogant stuck up dipweed who doesn't really get people very well.

 

Great. I'm gonna waste the next 7 episodes or so watching Cirie win? No chance.

 

Seven episodes ? There's only next week's episode and then the finale on the 14th.

Anyway, I dont think Terry is nearly as arrogant as some here have made him out to be. Like someone, said, it aint bragging if you back it up, and the Casayas are just jealous of his dominance in the challenges so they turn it around and say he's arrogant and a jerk or whatever. They just dont like it because one guy is totally dominating the game and their little alliance means nothing anymore. Kind of funny how there was no talk of them being arrogant and condescending when they had the numbers advantage at the merge and were picking off the La Minas one by one.

 

Totally agree, DV. When they had the numbers, they were cocky as hell...and nobody said a thing. Terry starts dominating and starts getting cocky as a result, and people are up in arms. Hell, I'd be acting cockily, too...were in I in his situation. He went in heavily out-numbered...having to hear the other group acting like they were the ****, and that his number was coming up soon...and now he's the one in charge, and they can't take the fact that he single-handedly destroyed all of their little plans.

And, as has been said, there's nothing wrong with bein' cocky/talkin' smack if you back it up...and he has done just that...unlike Shane and Aras.

 

However, if Terry such a IC terror, Terry's team should have won a lot more, especially against Casaya. But they didn't. They had some strong men, but they couldn't get it together, and I suspect he's the reason. He can't lead people, because he's so damn self-centred. And he can't strategize, because that would take time out from contemplation of his navel.

 

So the final 4 consists of a member of each of the original tribes- older men, older women, young men and young women.

Interesting that Terry's had his "ally of the week" taken out each of the last 2 weeks. I think Cirie is playing smart but can't see her getting to the final 2.

Did anyone else feel bad for Cirie's husband? If Terry'd sent Cirie to the resort and Shane and son back to camp, he'd be eating well and having sex. Instead he's chopping firewood and cleaning fish.

I found Terry's wife kinda irritating too.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Terry loses the final immunity challenge?

I thought Shane took it well. He didn't blow up and pout like he has in the past. He was even somewhat mature during his final words.

I'm not sure who "deserves" to win, but to me, Survivor is as much about politics as it is about winning challenges. Terry's been great physically but not so good politically (kinda like Matt in Amazon or even Boston Rob in All Stars). He may have enough jury votes anyway so maybe he has done well politically. I agree with the previous post about the challenges playing to Terry's strengths. I don't think there's been a non-physical challenge yet.

I'm hoping Cirie wins.

 

Ha, I never even noticed that, very interesting how that worked out.

Terry is guaranteed final 3, and that's usually an endurance challenge. If he can get Aras out next then he's guaranteed final two, because I can't see Cirie or Danielle standing on a pole for 8 hrs.

I just hope that the hidden immunity comes into play on Thursday or the whole damn thing will have been a waste of time

 

Aras weak in challenges. I laughed when Cirie said that Danielle could beat her in a challenge. Heck, anyone could beat Cirie in a challenge. The whole tribe is pretty weak.

 

I didn't realize that all four original teams are respresented either, which is kind of interesting. I certainly wouldn't have picked this final four.

 

Agreed. The whole Exile Island was a stupid gimmick from the start. At least it will have meant something if the idol comes into play, otherwise it will have been a complete waste of time.

 

I think for next season, they should not have a merge, and just have the two tribles wittle down to the final two, and then have a merge. What a jury that would be!

 

I thought that he could not use it post final-3, but apparently he can, which means he will be final 2 at least.

Everyone thinks the former La Minas will vote for Terry, and maybe they're right. But I note that he could have saved several of them from elimination with the Idol, and didn't. They may not be the sheep he thinks they are.

 

Yea, but I think Austin and Sally would give their vote to Terry, if only because they have no loyalty to the Casayas and would probably rather have one of their own win then those who voted them out. Plus keep in mind that Terry never betrayed them or conspired to vote them out, which is always a plus.

 

I don't watch the show, but Terry went to my high school. They had a write up about him in our monthly alumni newsletter...

 

No, Jeff specifically said that it can be used up to and including the final four vote, which means that the next tribal is the last chance he has to use it. I'm guessing that the final four tribal council will be extra long which is why they're giving it it's own episode instead of including it in the 2 hr finale, as usual.

 

If he wins the next immunity challenge, can he give the Idol to somebody else?

 

He may not go full out this time in order to conserve his strength for the final immunity challenge. If he wins this immunity, he could give the idol to whomever he wants in the final 2 with him.