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Games SWC Senate : A Long Time Before the Awakening

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  1. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Take it, though I have no issues with input from other Senators as long as the floor is not disrupted and respected.


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  2. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    Thank you

    As we know, Dantooine is a farming planet, one with which is within Imperial territories. We help supply food to the galaxy, an obviously important resource that is necessary for us. We are a vulnerable system though, given our location, and we also have had a history of Mandalorian raiders taking camp on our planet.

    With this rogue Star Destroyer abound attacking and a potential Mandalorian threat given past, albeit ancient, interest, I feel it is necessary to at least explore the avenue of increased security to our area. Nothing within which to cripple any other systems, but enough to deter potential threats. I would hate to see my planet, or any planet for that matter, suffer from such a terrible tragedy. If we were to fall under any circumstance I feel it would have terrible and far reaching consequences to all of our lives. We all have much to lose.
     
  3. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    My fellow Senators, Fondor is here. However I will speak tomorrow due to other obligations.
     
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  4. Shira A'dola

    Shira A'dola Jedi Master star 6

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    As will I.
     
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  5. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Forgive me for the interruption, but I wish to speak on the matter JediMaster1511 has addressed.

    I could send you a fighter squadron JediMaster1511 though admittedly I also don't want to sour any future relations with Mandalore. The late Padme Amidala was good friends with the late Duchess Satine and both our planets benefited from their friendship. I'm not saying I do not wish to help Dantooine, but I do want to be cautious. Perhaps there is a way to gain a treaty between Mandalore and Dantooine?

    In regards to the Rogue Star destroyer if we ever do find it, I think it would be wise to send a team in to capture any high ranking officers. There is a good chance they would know of any other rogue Imperials in the galaxy.
     
  6. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    I respect your stance on the matter, TheSilentInfluence, and I agree that we should not sour any relations with Mandalore.

    I want to make it clear, I in no way hold Mandalore responsible for the Death Watch, and this is not intended to be any sort of direct confrontation or conflict with Mandalore. But there is a potential threat in this groups actions, and I believe we should monitor it and be prepared for a possible hostile situation. Their presence alone creates an unfortunate and tense situation.

    As for the Rogue Star Destroyer, we cannot act in any other matter but in preparation since we have no idea where it may be.
     
  7. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Thank you JediMaster1511 for respecting my stance on the matter. I also want to say I respect yours as well.

    That's very wise. As I said I can provide a fighter squadron to help protect your planet from Death Watch should they start causing hostile situations. And in peacetimes our troops could learn from one another even.

    I agree. We must be ready to intercept at a moments notice should it show up in one of our systems.
     
  8. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    *A limp in his gait, the grizzled old war veteran, the Senator for Mandalore, steps forward into his pod. His voice echoes through the chamber from under his helmet*

    The actions of Death Watch, while certainly a reason for concern among you aruetiise, is at it's heart a Mandalorian problem, and thus merits a Mandalorian solution. Dispose of these radicals however you wish if found in your own space, but we mando'ade will deal with the Kyr'tsad in Mandalorian space ourselves.
     
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  9. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ru'kir gar vurel linibar Gaa'tayl Senator Bardan_Jusik , vaabir not hesitate at Jor'chaajir bat Naboo par assistance.

    For those of my fellow Senators and Chancellor/Vice Chancellorwho may not speak Mando'a I offered Senator Jusik assistance from Naboo should he ever require it.
     
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  10. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    I appreciate any aid you can send to our system.


    Bardan_Jusik With due respect, our concern is not unfounded, and I for one would not like to see any damage done to any of our systems, yours included. I believe you're capable of handling such a problem on your own, but I also believe it has the potential to escalate quickly if not monitored in some capacity. I believe I can speak for the Senate, and for the New Republic representatives, in this instance to say that we would like to help.


    A thought has crossed my mind...

    We have yet to address the economic crisis with Corellia. With support swelling for the Imperial Diktat, could at all be possible there is support for this Rogue Imperial Vessel within those ranks?

    I would be willing to put my support behind reparations for Corellia, and even open up trade for food goods, but I believe it would not be an unreasonable request to have such an area inspected for the Rogue Threat. I also believe it would not be unreasonable to have said reparations closely monitored so as to not indirectly aid and fund the Rogue Threat, should they actually be occupying the area in some capacity.


    Admiral Volshe / Admiral Firmus Piett aalagartassle Being Imperial representatives, what are you stances on the matter?
     
  11. Darth Dreadwar

    Darth Dreadwar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    *the Senator of Moraband and the Esstran, clad in imperious red robes, smirks at hearing Bardan's resolve*

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    If I may contribute to the discussion, given Mandalorians' wealth of experience and knowledge of their own tactics, and possible contacts within the Death Watch, perhaps the Senate would consider funding a Mandalorian intervention. A deployment of Mandalorian forces not only to deal with incursions within their own space, but to hunt the Death Watch across the galaxy, as I believe your forces would be best-suited to the challenge, Senator Bardan. I share the Senator of Naboo's sentiment: my people will provide whatever help, and indeed funding for the endeavour I have proposed, is needed. Tion'ad hukaat'kama? Korriban.

    As for the rogue Star Destroyer, while we cannot necessarily predict its movements, we can mitigate damage, and perhaps even ensnare it. An analysis of its initial attack must be made, to determine the purpose of the attack, and then perhaps we should consider recreating those circumstances to lure it to a given system, with Interdictors awaiting both in-system and along likely hyperspace lanes leading to that system. Capturing it should be a priority; I concur, we can learn much of rogue Imperial elements from those aboard and its databanks.
     
  12. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Very well JediMaster1511 I will have to notify our Queen of this arangment. Also I want to make sure my actions are approved by both our Chancellor Sinrebirth and our Vice Chancellor Darth Dreadwar.
     
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  13. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    Vice Chancellor Darth Dreadwar, I am weary of setting up a scenario to lure out the Rogue Threat. Doing such a thing puts any given system we choose into great danger. They have illustrated how much damage they can cause, and while in this instance we would be prepared, it is still a very dangerous game to play.

    I see the intelligence and wisdom in setting up such a trap, it is possibly more safe than just sitting back and waiting, I just wonder, how long determining such details to increase our chances of success would take?

    Senator Bardan_Jusik, being an experienced veteran, I am actually curious of your opinion on this matter, if you would indulge us?
     
  14. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    JediMaster1511 It would be best to act quickly on the matter so they do not have a chance to strike another blow against us even if we may not be completely prepared it is always best to take the initiative.
     
  15. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    Would it be though, with the very limited information we have to work with? While I agree an action should be taken, we are stepping into the unknown here, I don't think we should hastily rush into this without exercising every option we can possibly look at so as to make sure we approach this right and with the best solution possible.
     
  16. galactic-vagabond422

    galactic-vagabond422 Force Ghost star 4

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    Chancellor Sinrebirth, Vice Chancellor Darth Dreadwar, and assorted senators, I hereby announce that the people of Carratos have, in a free and *ahem* fair election, chosen me galactic-vagabond422 to represent them in the Senate as part of the New Republic. Do not let my being a Balosar make you think less of me. I gained my station though honest work and a commitment to bringing more trade along the Namadii Corridor, which has, in my humble opinion, been underutilized on the galactic stage.

    To that end I believe that settling the Corellian matter should take first priority. Corellia and it's Brothers are a valuable market for all sorts of goods, like Aphran woodworks, finest in the galaxy, and and the market is crying out for them, but it is locked. All for revenge, if you'd have them pay reparations do it through a tariff on Corellian goods, like their ships, don't demand a large sum all at once, this is petty eye for eye rhetoric. I say release them from their obligation to pay back these reparations and place a small tax or temporary tariff on their exports. You can have you pound of flesh and money can once again flow into the system, Carratos would gladly send trade missions, loaded with the finest of goods from the Corridor to jump start trading in the system.
     
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  17. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Welcome Senator Vagabond.

    As to the funding of a Mandalorian Expeditionary Force to deal with the Death Watch issue, I would be in favor of such provided that control of the force be maintained by Mandalorian commanders. The tactics required might be seen by some of the more squeamish member worlds as rather, well, brutal. I would hate to see ...hesitation... at the upper levels of command be responsible for further atrocities at the hands of the Death Watch.

    Given the nature of the nearer threat, the Death Watch situation has garnered more of my attention than the rogue Star Destroyer. I will say that if they continue to mount simple hit and run attacks they will be quite difficult to find. Eventually if deprived of support they will be run to ground however. I believe thus that continuing to deny them the means to repair, refuel and otherwise maintain their current tempo of operations to be a sound policy.
     
  18. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Do you have any idea who could be leading Death Watch at this point Senator Bardan_Jusik?
     
  19. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As always our suspicions run to someone in Clan Vizsla though we have no actionable intelligence at the moment which we feel prepared to share with the Senate.
     
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  20. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I wasnt aware Clan Vizsla was still around. I thought most of then went to follow that new leader after Pre Vizsla died. Forgive me if I forget the leaders name.
     
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  21. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    I agree with Senator Bardan on how to handle the Rogue Threat.

    I still believe we may have a good chance that they are somewhere near Corellia, I think addressing that situation may potentially solve two problems at once


    As for Death Watch, I shall support Mandalore keeping it in house unless Death Watch attacks other systems.
     
  22. Darth Dreadwar

    Darth Dreadwar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Welcome Senator Vagabond. You will be added to next week's Roster representing Carratos.

    You have my approval TheSilentInfluence, although ultimate authority lies with His Excellency, of course. This being a planet-to-planet affair, I do not believe a motion needs making on that agreement.

    Senator JediMaster1511, I agree with you that luring the rogue Star Destroyer to attack does pose a risk. Which is why I will happily offer the Horuset system, or indeed any within the Esstran sector, as potential bait. The Thanium sector is closest to me, after all. The question is, why Draukyze? What might have drawn this 'hit and fade' attack? If I could receive Interdictors to barricade the worlds of the Stygian Caldera and the Daragon Trail, we have a good chance at ensnaring this lurking menace. Better it attacks a system on our terms, lurched out of hyperspace to fall into our trap, than ravages another. If we capture its officers and pour through its databanks, we may see on whose orders it attacked, and whether this 'hit and fade' represents the rise of a heretofore unknown Imperial warlord, perhaps. I may be more utilitarian than most, but I see no problem with risking the lives of the brave whose job it is to do so, to save the greater number of lives of civilians.

    Senator Bardan_Jusik, I share your view on the squeamishness of the Republic military command. Military command would primarily fall to Mandalorians, although oversight by a Republic committee - preferably drawn from Intelligence - might be advisable. I hope you do not take this as an insult, but might you not concede there is a chance, however small, that some of whatever Mandalorian force is amassed might have Death Watch sympathies?

    To find the rogue Star Destroyer is not my goal. To replicate the circumstances that drew it to Draukyze, and to lure it out with Interdictors surrounding likely targets, is my goal.
     
  23. JediMaster1511

    JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master star 10

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    Perhaps, Darth Dreadwar, but as I expressed before, we still know little of who they are and what exactly they are capable of. To sacrifice lives, any sort be it military or civilian, to face such an unknown seems dangerous. Facing them head on, even in such a manner as you have put forth, seems like too hasty of an action.
     
  24. Darth Dreadwar

    Darth Dreadwar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    It's a single Star Destroyer, Senator, running 'hit and fade' tactics, indicative of little military strength. Unfortunately, thanks to the mass HoloNet media, the risk of being a target of an unpredictable strike could incite mass panic and thus affect the Republic negatively economically if we remain passive. Then there is the fact that if it's struck once, it will strike again. It'd be folly to think otherwise.

    Passive action is always a tempting response, but in truth committing to passivity would be just as much a commitment to sacrificing lives than it would be to try and ensnare this vessel and learn something more about whatever rogue Imperial or Imperials is behind it.
     
  25. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It is after all only a guess on our part. Currently we have little indication who the leader of this cabal may truly be.

    Senate oversight of the Mandalorian Expeditionary Force would be a sad fact of life as they would be providing the funding Senator Dreadwar. Provided that oversight is very loosely constructed, so as to not interfere with MEF Operations as well as to provide the MEF with more operational security I think that request can be accommodated.
     
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