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A/V Tales of the [Jedi, Empire, Underworld] series

Discussion in 'Literature' started by RafSwi7, Dec 23, 2021.

  1. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    This is getting out of hand, now there are II of them.
     
  2. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    Maybe they should have gone with binary.
     
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  3. Sarge

    Sarge 6x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    What are we, load lifters?!
     
  4. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    Insider #229 is out and I have a copy in hand, and in that Inquisitor article the TOTJ character is identified as the Eleventh Brother - but just barely, in an oddly-written sidebar stating that his identity as the Eleventh Brother was recently "discovered." Marrok is also mentioned in that sidebar, but his status as the First Brother is not. Sixth Brother receives a brief entry that is more or less the same as his entry in the Encyclopedia, without mentioning his death in the Ahsoka novel. Tualon Yaluna gets a mention but is not confirmed to be the Twelfth Brother, and Barriss Offee gets an entire separate article but if her "number" was disclosed at any point, I missed it.

    I think this article ultimately lends some support to the idea that there was indeed some confusion on the back end that was still working itself out by the time this issue went to press. Other than the true identity of the Inquisitor killed on Raada (which I expect will remain intentionally ambiguous) it seems to have been worked out. Folks waiting for confirmation that Tualon was the Twelfth Brother are going to have to wait a bit longer, though.
     
  5. Force Nexus

    Force Nexus Jedi Master star 4

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    That's really hilarious.

    Anyway, I've been listening to some old podcasts, and found this gem, which is extremely relevant to the whole thing:
    "What's interesting is how everything now is canon going forward. [...] If we say this is all canon, then as creatives now on the cinematic universe, we have to - more than ever - read this stuff and stay up with it, you know, and story group does, so that we know and are respecting those things, because the minute that we go back into a world of 'Well, I know it was that way in the book, but this makes better sense as a movie...' Well, then it didn't matter anyway, right? So we've invalidated it all again." — Dave Filoni, Rebel Force Radio: August 14, 2014
     
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  6. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Oh, Dave!
     
  7. Force Nexus

    Force Nexus Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, being completely fair, Dave is not the only one guilty of it. Andor messed up Cassian's backstory. He was a Separatist, originally. "I was in this fight since I was six years old!" In reality, in the series, he was from some tribal society, he was there up until the age of at least 9 by the looks of it, and a ship with a crew bearing Separatist markings crashed onto his planet and survivors shot his friends, and then he was adopted and lived on Ferrix up until the formation of the Empire. And I have a strong feeling Andor S2 will mess up something from Catalyst, or the comics where Andor met K-2SO, or even Rebels.

    But Dave sure has the record so far: The Bad Batch contradicted Kanan, resurrected Ventress; Tales of the Jedi contradicted Ahsoka; Ahsoka S2 or his movie will most certainly explicitly contradict Thrawn novels - S1 had already basically ignored them.

    Looking back, the period between 2014-2018 was really impressive in how interconnected and cohesive everything was. At this point, however, we're back to canon tiers.
     
  8. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    Some searching around will no doubt uncover many, many comments of this sort from Lucasfilm folks, Story Group folks, etc. At issue is the meaning of phrases Dave says here like "everything now is canon" and "we know and are respecting those things" - does "canon" mean "absolutely perfect magic window continuity every single time?" Or is the idea of "canon" flexible enough to allow multiple interpretations or variations of an event, aka the "based on a true story" paradigm? I will not put words in Dave's mouth here but I will say that in the past ten years since Filoni gave this interview, Lucasfilm has undoubtedly shifted toward the latter, which is a problem only if you insist upon the former.

    In other words, don't make me tap the sign.
     
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  9. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 4

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    That's just an excuse for Filoni to do his own thing because he is the main offender that leads to this situlation.
     
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  10. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Dave hasn't been in my good books since what he did to Barriss Offee in CWS5.
     
  11. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    This doesn't rise to the level of "situation."
     
  12. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 4

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    We can call it a pattern, then.
     
  13. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    Much closer to the target, yes.

    You'll hit the bullseye when you dig a little deeper into the pattern and notice some details that are being glossed over in the mad rush to declare the fall of the unified canon and the return of tiers. The fact that the broad strokes of each story aren't changing - just some specifics - being one example. One wonders why that would be if Filoni is that hell-bent on disregarding existing lore. He need not cling to those old frameworks if he can simply lay claim to a higher "tier" and eradicate them completely, no?
     
  14. Fettster

    Fettster Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    May 4 bringing us Tales of the Underworld, starting Cad Bane and Asajj Ventress.



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  15. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Damn, nice
     
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  16. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Just awesome, long have I waited for Bane's backstory. Hope that his first meeting with Todo will be shown too.
     
  17. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I want Bane and Jango to meet
     
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  18. KirKanosForever

    KirKanosForever Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Very cool. I hope we're getting more Asajj content after this
     
  19. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Most likely, she is a big character and not a small one like, barris
     
  20. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh this is sublime. Wonder who the kid is… and the Inquisitor is new, yes?
     
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  21. LetoQuorme

    LetoQuorme Mos Alba FF Chapter Rep star 4

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    Asajj is one of my favorite characters, so I'm very excited to see this.
     
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  22. KirKanosForever

    KirKanosForever Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Looks new, yes, although I think I see vague similarities with the one Ahsoka faced in her Tales series.

    Hoping the kid is the avenue to learn more about the Hidden Path
     
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  23. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    The kid from the plot is a order 66 survivor
     
  24. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 4

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    The mask design looks familiar but I think it's reused concept art. Though I profess that I'm tired of seeing the Inquisitors as jobbers.
     
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  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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