Mini Series The Acolyte 1.03 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Ah yeah. No men for the witches. Sure. We are in a galaxy far, far away though, in a forgotten time - so everything is allowed.

 

Where did we see that? All I saw was Indara and Torbin standing in the background and kind of out of blurry.

 

Can you provide a quote on that? Never heard it. Just curious.

Even so, the idea itself isn't new. It's not something Disney or Leland just made up out of thin air to piss off fans. And even in this episode its remains partially ambiguous. We don't know what exactly happened even if their Thread magic created the girls. And there is no father because the entire coven is made up of women.

 

I don’t know why that any less unbelievable than Shmi’s there was no father.

 

I mean the main thing Darth Plagueis is known if is… “He was so powerful… he could use the Force to manipulate the midichlorians to create life.” And now we know Mother Aniseya has created life through the Force and could have passed this knowledge down to her apprentice. If Mother Aniseya isn’t the Sith Master I’ll be very surprised. Also I think she’s trying to create a Force Dyad with Mae and Osha.

 

I think they are just talking about random quotes Lucas has made over the years. In terms of in universe story created over the years this episode didn't really present anything new.

 

They had two mothers I assume the two witches who were there mothers were a couple Partners?

 

Yep my thoughts as well

 

Well i think the show tries to play a game with the audience. They show things to tease or to mislead but nothing that anything at all that could give a definitive answer about what really happened/is happening.
Tonight episode just showed the witches died, but how it happened was clearly left to interpretation.
Didn't Sol appear inside the fortress to quickly after the fire started ?
Was really Mae who blew away the reactor?
If it was the fire that killed the witches why they weren't burned ?
8 years isn't too old to start the Jedi training ? Why insist in testing the children ?

The problem is the average SW fan don't seem to me as an audience willing to play that type of game ...

 

So the big, for the worse, canon changing lore I was told to expect turned out to be a thread? I'm underwhelmed. I don't see the problem with it at all, it's just another culture's interpretation of the Force.

 

From The Star Wars Archives 1999-2005:
George Lucas: The midi-chlorians started the birth process in Anakin's mother. The Whills communicated the command to the midi-chlorians, which activated the DNA that germinated the egg. That's why Anakin doesn't have a father. He was, in a bizarre and metaphorical way, touched by God, but in this case they happened to be one-celled animal.
[...]
Paul Duncan: Palpatine has been grooming him by saying how powerful [Anakin] is.
George Lucas: And also saying that 'My mentor told me that there was a way that you could stop death.' Which was a lie. They can't. Anakin got sold a bill of goods because he wanted it so bad that he'd believe anything anybody would sell him.
Paul Duncan: Palatine is a snake oil salesman.
George Lucas: It's a scam. Anakin's made a pact with the Devil.

And it was pretty evident in the movies. It was quite literal. Palpatine was lying to him, and when Anakin actually joined him, Palpatine said that he doesn't know how to do it. He was tricked.

How does that follow? Anakin was literally created by the Gods. Ridiculous to assume that mere mortals are capable of such power. And I doubt there will be a point to it in the end. I know why they did it, it's pretty obvious.

EU was never anything more than merchandised fanfiction.

 

Did Darth P also have the ability to save the ones he loved from dying, a power Palpatine didn't know about.

Perhaps Mother could save Mae, whom she loved, and that's why she's not dead. Maybe she passed this on to Darth P.

And as i said the other day, maybe Mae and Osha are a dyad, because that's also the only other places we've seen that kind of power so far.

Throwing out ideas....

 

the jedi tested Sol at 4 years old age has nothing to do with testing.

 

Read my post above. And it wasn't really ambiguous. The weird haircut mother was quite literal about the fact that she created her.

Because Anakin was a literal messiah created by the Gods themselves to restore balance to the Force and destroy the Sith. Oh, wait. That never happened. Palpatine returned. Rey was the one who actually destroyed Palpatine. Oh, well.

 

@Force Nexus thank you. Still doesn’t change my opinion. As I don’t really think it should matter all that much. Especially as it isn’t a new idea as established by the plaguise novel. But thank you for providing a source. I tried finding one but couldn’t.

 

I think Mother Aniseya projected an image of Mae on the bridge at the end. She wasn’t really there. The end scene felt very similar to the visions present-day Osha is having of Mae.

 

Interestingly, there is a Clone Wars short story where a witch of Dathomir made a daughter out of inanimate material... Also, one of Padme's sisters apparently had a kid alone through some technological means and there was a comment that was fairly common on Naboo

Plus nothing is confirmed yet. Maybe the witches were rich enough to hire cloners. Or, given the existence of trans people, maybe they were made the old fashion way - depends on the coven's policies really.

I'd make a joke about Qui-gon jumping to conclusions with Anakin being the chosen one, but thinking more I suppose there is a reason he does investigate further even after hearing Shmi's story and isn't convinced until he sees the m-count, and even then other jedi have doubts.

 

Then this is as well.

 

You may not want to read any of it but it is officially licensed Star Wars material and the movies and TV shows have taken a lot from it.

And Headland is a self proclaimed EU buff.

 

Indeed, it is. But this does more damage, since this is on-screen, in the same medium as the actual story.

 

It doesn't damage the EU at all.

 

Ah the classic only the 6 films count the rest is fiction. Star Wars grows closer and closer to religion every day.

 

No kidding. Lucas changed his mind every ten minutes.

 

Weird thought...what if Mae and Osha were NOT created by the Force? They did not come right out and say they were. But what if Mother Aniseya created clones of herself and Koril carried them to term?