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Mini Series The Acolyte 1.04 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Jun 17, 2024.

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Grade the episode

Poll closed Jun 26, 2024.
  1. 10

    5.9%
  2. 9

    9.8%
  3. 8

    24.5%
  4. 7

    30.4%
  5. 6

    9.8%
  6. 5

    4.9%
  7. 4

    7.8%
  8. 3

    1.0%
  9. 2

    2.9%
  10. 1

    2.9%
  1. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don’t know I haven’t seen the rest of the show yet.
     
  2. DurararaFTW

    DurararaFTW Jedi Master star 4

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    Mae isn't gonna succeed to kill a Jedi without a weapon when she still has one left. If she gets a passing grade on this mission, it's obviously gonna be with Sol, not Kelnacca.
     
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  3. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Yeah, I’ll wait and see. But I still don’t like how blandly and listlessly this trick played out, if that is indeed what it is. Though it would be much, much worse if Mae actually quit for Osha, and decided to hand herself over to the Jedi for real.

    Until next week!
     
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  4. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    I'll wait until next week also,

    until then I'll just continue to make up **** about what is happening
     
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  5. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This was posted by @Force Nexus on the previous page. CK is the writer of the episode:

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    Her main reason for quitting is she's sick of the training and just really not a good Sith candidate. Learning Osha is alive is the final straw because it diminishes her need for revenge.

    Mae is no longer a Sith acolyte. She quit.
     
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  6. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    @The Chalk Jedi

    that's kind of what I'm talking about above, you don't know what is going to happen either, you're just talking ****
     
  7. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Mae quit and wants to be with her sister. She was too connected to Osha like a possesive sister. She is no longer Sith material. Osha on the other hand is.
     
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  8. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Both of the sisters quitting their respective training is consistent though. (Although Osha was kind of kicked out, no? Who knows. She seems like she agreed with it)

    Maybe neither is supposed to be a Jedi or a Sith.
     
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  9. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    I mean, at this point we don't even know what Mae was a part of, what did she quit?
     
  10. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm just sharing my own theory, which is still in play.

    This other theory about tricking Qimir or whatever has been officially debunked by the writer.
     
  11. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    that's fine, present your theory

    I'm just emphasizing that none of us know, me or you, we are all talking ****
     
  12. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Personally I don’t expect the writer of a show to spoil something that hasn’t been revealed yet on Twitter. But that’s just me. She didn’t debunk anything.
     
  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Then why was she ready to kill Kelnacca on Khofar for more than half of this episode? And why has she decided to drop her vengeance quest if the reality remains that the Jedi visit during her childhood led to her mother and her entire community being killed, and being separated from her sister for over a decade?
     
  14. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Welll...she literally says to Darth Qimir when he's hanging from the tree, that she just realized something when he went to get water. That her loyalty is to her sister, not to his Master.

    So either A: That's a lie, meant to trick her own Master into killing for her. Or B: Her motivations have changed since realizing that Osha is alive and wandering through the forest. And getting back to Osha is her main objective.

    She can still hate the Jedi in either scenario. But maybe she just doesn't care enough to want them dead. She just wants her sister.
     
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  15. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    Just a ruse, a meaningless side-quest leading to the confrontation at the end of Ep 4.

    "Everything That Has Transpired Has Done So According To My Design."

    "It's a Trap"
     
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  16. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Its also a Sith philosophy.
     
  17. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    What made her realize that in the forest? And with such clarify that she turns on her friend and sets a trap for him? And why didn’t she come to this realization before committing to this mission on Khofar? And why is she so loyal to her sister, when her sister abandoned her for the people who precipitated the destruction of her mother and tribe, and as a result, she tried to kill her sister? Where does the unconditional love come from, and why in the forest?
     
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  18. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Hey.. I dunno. Going by the lines maybe she doesn't really care about Qimir. She outright says that she doesn't think he cares about her. And if she suspects he's her own Master then that relationships isn't real. At all. He's not her friend. If you think your sister is dead for 16 years, and then you see her alive, maybe something change in you. I don't know about you, but walks calm me down. They make me reflect on things. Center me. Maybe that happened here. I dunno.

    I'm all for Mae tricking Qimir. It's a cool concept. But it's not handled especially well given her last lines in Kelbecca's home. The whole ending doesn't really align with it, and if its true, its just done to trick us for another episode.
     
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  19. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    At this point my guess is that Quimir is *not* the Smile-o Ren Sith, but I could be wrong. Not a very confident prediction. I believe the point of killing Jedi without a weapon is to make the Jedi break their oath and create a philosophical crisis for them.
     
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  20. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    It's Qimir and Kelnacca
     
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  21. Leoluca Randisi

    Leoluca Randisi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I didn't think it was a trick Mae truly wanted to turn herself in she doesn't know who her Sith Lord is.
     
  22. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    [​IMG]
     
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  23. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    Indeed. I honestly think its simply that the writing on the show just isn't that good. We've been down this road several times now. A LOT of silly things happened on the TBOBF, Mando season 3, and Kenobi. A lot of the confusion and inconsistency on The Acolyte might just be to budget constraints and bad writing.
     
  24. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    The budget on this show was reportedly huge, so I don’t think we can chalk it up to tight purse strings. Sloppy writing though . . . well it certainly wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen that.
     
  25. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Yeah, but this time we have Headland, who is a really good writer. So something doesn't seem quite right. My theory is that what she originally wrote went through a grinder, but I don't know that.
     
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