Mini Series The Acolyte 1.07 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

It seems it detects midichlorians. NOT A JOKE.

 

I was hoping they’d reveal that Ep 3 was an altered (if not completely fabricated) memory as the result of a mind trick on young Osha (and the audience), harkening back to the line about not trusting your eyes, and also Yord’s first appearance, so quick to mind trick citizens.

To me that would have been a great way to show us the POV of Sith, and why they value their freedom from the Jedi so much, and also tying into Qimir’s (and ultimately Osha’s) use of the helmet to make sure they don’t enter their mind and present a false world in front of their eyes.

I guess they can still reveal that Sol mind tricked Osha to pass the test, which is what I think Indira felt? But that doesn’t seem as dramatic

 

One of the most humorous images ever is a wookie Jedi searching for buried coins.

Gold.

 

If the mother was gonna give Osha to the Jedi, then why did she start to turn herself into black smoke? Had she not done that, Sol probably wouldn’t have killed her…

One of many things in this episode that just felt so random and weird…

 

Poor Jedi. “They’ll take that as a threat”

Meanwhile, the mothers…

 

She was trying to protect her daughter by phasing away.

 

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I would avoid trailers, but this tiny promo snippet doesn't really spoil anything. I'm merely using a spoiler tag to shrink the post.

Spoiler

 

For the first time I’m thinking Indara may be in on this,,, she somehow manages to get her team on a planet where there’s a vergence in the force, she keeps having comms with the Jedi council the audience don’t get to see, she somehow kills all the witches and she’s the one that suggests the cover up. Hmmm…. was this the Sith plan to ‘grow their own’ all along?

 

The problem I have with that is that this event obviously has a traumatic effect on him to the point where he's happy to accept his part in it and commit suicide. The Jedi are very in-tune with feelings and disturbances and yet he is able to fool them, make the rank of knight, then master, then sit there for years in a force hermit bubble and nobody suspects that he's fundamentally unstable. It doesn't really add up for me.

 

I saw that too. She was trying to protect Mae.

 

I agree on most points. But I think stone was not on fire at any point. But sure fire spread oddly fast and caused explosions at hundred yards away for no apparent reason. They could've shown pipes or something that spread the fire to make viewer understand how it spread, but no they just expect viewer to accept absurd stuff. This mining outpost is OSHA violation for sure lol. But I don't think they literally showed burning stone at any point. Then again with exotic Star Wars setting we can have burning stones I think...

Aniseya getting all sexy with Torbin when talking about going home was unintentionally hilarious. It's embarrassing. I think it would've been better not to show what he saw but just mention it or something. That scene is one of the worst in any Star Wars media ever. Headland mentioned she liked the idea of the seduction of the dark side, but this is just ridiculously sexual for trying to get someone leave. We only lacked trumpet music...

I think witches may have been just knocked of and died in the fire actually. But sure maybe the magic they use is so damn risky it can kill you when things go wrong. One more reason to think these witches are danger to society and they are to blame for their own fate really. Getting into someone's head is not okay. I definitely got the bad vibes from them all the time and if this show tries to portray them as sympathetic it does poor job. They seem unhinged and definitely not good parents. Aniseya seems like a bad leader. She even says she chooses motherhood over being the leader. I think you need to find a way to do both or give up being a leader then. You cannot just be leader one day and mother the next. It doesn't work like that... There could've been interesting internal conflict over this but they leave it at that as they do with all interesting ideas they had. Why this show is so half-baked is literally unforgivable. They had all the money in the world but talent of writers is lacking. Not claiming actors. They did good job considering what they have to work with...

I have no idea what Aniseya is doing when she turns into cringey horror movie effect. It happens right after Mae comes to ask for help to save Osha so I think she goes to help her? But why she doesn't tell jedi that before using some crazy dark side magic is beyond me. One sentence. "I'll go to help Osha, wait here jedi" Would have changed his reaction, but no since she needed to die they kill her.
It does remind me of cases in America where police shoots a man who reaches for his wallet thinking he reaches for gun. Maybe this was intentional since often victims of such misjudgment are black. Sol probably thought she was going to attack... but still tragic but dumb.

Many things seem to happen because they just need to happen. This is bad writing. Writer should be in control what happens and how but looks like someone didn't care much and were given directions but they wrote the lamest script possible and somehow it got accepted. Not sure if writer's strike affected this show. Seems like it did...

Maybe not but it doesn't make sense for Mae not to tell her that or use it as reason not to trust Sol. It's the first thing anyone would say to her. Sol killed out mother damn it! I see this is indefensible blunder of the writers really. It is so unnatural for Mae not to mention this.

 

Loved the episode. We lost Mother Aniseya too soon. Where’s my Black Series figure?

 

But the cover story isn’t that nothing bad happened, it’s that Mae was so mad about the Jedi taking Osha that she started a fire that wiped out the entire coven of 50 women including herself, a child. So it wouldn’t really be suspicious for him to be experiencing trauma and guilt in the aftermath of such an experience.

 

Interesting that there are still unanswered questions. Were the witches actually going to sacrifice the children? What happened when Indara "freed" the Wookiee Jedi from the witches' mind control? Does anyone actually like that crappy pop song at the end?

 

I think this is a case of “online fan brain” talking. If I got anything from this episode it’s that Indara was the most Orthodox Jedi there

 

That’s not the cover story either tho. No one in the Jedi Order even knew Mae existed. The other Jedi don’t even know that Osha was a twin.

They covered up the entire accident.

 

They knew she had a sister called Mae, they didn't know it was her twin. Weird detail to hide.

 

This was supposed to be a flashback from Sol's p.o.v. except some of it is Mae's, where he wasn't present, and what does he tell her that she doesn't already know?

isn't her real concern - who killed all the witches? or are we meant to think Trinity did that when she broke the psychic link?

 

I guess this is more what Osha is learning happened through connecting to Mae with the helmet on.

 

Oh man … the writing didn’t get any better on the show. Also I really want to see the episode that explains how the leader of an aggressive Dark Side cult became the only person who tried not to be a spooky Dark Side witch. But still turned into smoke monsters when a crisis broke out. The whole reveal was basically as close to what everyone could guess from the clues before as possible. But creating twists is hard, we all know. The writers clearly didn’t have the skillset here. Gotta say it hurts kind of.

Let’s not even think about if breaking off the Sith narrative for another entire Brendook flashback works or serves them well. Also if this was truly more relevant that Osha‘s seduction to … yeah the Dark Side? His bedroom? Hard to say at this point.

I mean what was new or interesting here?

Ah and the Power of many seems to be primary the power to attack all of them at once. Wow. I understand why they fear extinction haha.

It just all happens the way they need it to happen, instead of in any organic way. This show got one more Episode to go. Good luck turning around the writing nose-dive you did from Episode 6 onwards.

3/10

 

The most interesting aspect of the "vergence" idea to me is that the Jedi of this era seem convinced that a "vergence" can only be a place. A hundred years later, when Qui-Gon discovers Anakin, he appears to suggest to the Council that Anakin himself is the vergence. Perhaps the case of Mae & Osha is what leads the Jedi to the discovery that people can be vergences as well?

 

Oh I'm sure it is "fan brain"... however, Indira has just made the decision to cover up the murder/death of multiple beings. I think that's probably one of the most 'unorthodox' things I've seen a Jedi do since Anakin and the Sand People.

 

Maybe the Jedi of this era are searching for that Chosen One. They seeking out vergences. And they come up empty handed. So the belief in the prophecy fades a bit 100 years later.

It doesn't seem like the council ever finds out that Osha and Mae were crated.

 

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https://www.starwars.com/news/the-acolyte-highlights-choice