Mini Series "The Acolyte" Season 1 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Bold Prediction! Mae is going to capture Sol and deliver him to her master. She informs her master, "I've got Sol...and I'm super bad!"

 

It would make Anakin feel a little less special in that respect. When Anakins mother says to Qui-Gon that there was no father, he can now just be like ohh well that's not strange at all, I know of your kind!

 

I agree because it sounds dumb that

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The Force has a gender in the first place. I really don't understand why. And so that would make Anakin having two mothers as well, if you think about it.

 

These the same people who have been saying for the last few years that ... Leslye Headland has been fired. The Acolyte is so bad its been shelved by Disney. That KK has been fired. That Lucas rebought LFL. That SW is dead.

Yeah.... lol.

 

I like that the force is neither and gender fluid, no one says the force is male. Like God is neither.

 

Witches have had special abilities for a long time. How was pretty much every Dathomirian witch force sensitive in TCW if the same thing wasn't going on there?

 

They aren't Force sensitives. Their magicks are different from the Force as per Lucas. Only Maul, Ventress and Savage were Force-sensitive in a classic meaning, which is why they had become Sith/Assassins for the Sith. The others didn't. And also,

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the witches in TCW were most certainly breeding with the Nightbrothers, not conceiving themselves. It was strongly implied that they were using them for sex as well.

 

Different religions view god differently. Some see God as the male…Father. and son. Some as Mother (mother nature). Some as neither. Some as both.

 

Does it though?
There is a difference between creating life, and the force creating a chosen one who has off the scale power. Anakin isn't unique because he had no father, he is unique because he was created by the force itself, and for a very specific purpose. Humans have managed to create life in a lab, and even cloned animals, but neither of that is comparable to there being a son of of god / messiah with the powers that come with it (if you believe in such things). There being similarities in terms of unusual conceptions, doesn't mean they are the same in other ways.

That being said, the whole thing could play out as an attempt by the Sith to create something along the lines of the chosen one, believing that he will work for the Sith and not against them. If a legend says that such a person will come, some might try to actively cause it by trying the most obscure uses of the force they can think of. After all, better to teach him as a Sith right away. Doesn't mean that they accomplish their actual goal, just that they tried it. Just like alchemist didn't manage to create gold.
It's not like this idea is entirely new. The early scripts for ROTS had Palpatine say that he created Anakin. With no further clarification on whether that was actually true, a complete lie, or something that Palpatine actually tried and thought he accomplished, only for the force to go "lol, no you don't, I'm just going to turn him into your doom instead"

In the end, we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. There are many ways to make this work, just like there are many works to not make it work.

 

Wait lol what? That's quite the conclusion you've drawn there my friend.

 

Hell, Maybe all this dark siders creating life business is what knocked the Force out of balance and created a need for the Force creating the Chosen One. So the Sith/Darksiders are waiting for the Chosen One - because they feel they created them - while all along it was the Force righting an abuse of power.

And as far as the Force is female business, it could simply be that the witches look to the feminine side to create this life. Or so they believe anyways. It could simply be their belief system and POV on how they choose to see the Force.

 

Yes, and I’m along for that ride. I also mentioned the mystery is actually what happened 16 years ago - and the identity of the Sith Lord.

But we also already know why Mae is killing them: for revenge and because her Master told her she must, to climb the Sith ladder or whatever.

All the marketing material described the show as a murder mystery. It’s not.
Suspense thriller is a better description. Possibly.

the creator did say ‘whatever you think the acolyte is, it isn’t.’ So there’s that. I thought it was a murder mystery. But only because they said it was.

 

Aslong as they don't say these women are creating people using the force... its not that big of a deal I guess.

If they did, then I could see why it would get a lot of hate. Although I say that but series 3 will show how Palpatine/Plagueis learned how to do it thanks to these women. *gasp*

Admittedly the idea of these, I guess witches being a society of just women and also only breeding only women does kinda feel a bit odd in concept.

 

A group of witches in Dune breeding women, best sci-fi movie of the decade. But Star Wars?

 

Never seen Dune. How does that work as a concept?

Maybe they are taking a page out of dune?

 

I don't think we're going to learn much more about that guy, but... he returns from a mission and takes a ten year vow of silence. I'd love to see how he explained that, and how the Jedi,who are - as has been pointed out, often critically - are all about letting go of things, moving on, etc, apparently just go, "Sure, why not".

I saw someone suggest he was doing it as penance. Well, penance implies sin. Maybe that would lead to a couple of questions?

 

I really don't know what I'm supposed to think of Mae. I mean she really doesn't seem that skillful or that well trained and yet she took down a jedi master pretty easily and goes about taking out the others with a bit of improv from some stoner guy.

 

Her threat to the Jedi is not her skill but the guilt she inflicts upon them, and by extension the Order, threatening to shatter the truth about "the dream".

 

My theory is its something to do with the Sith and keeping the knowledge about their continued existence a secret in order to protect the Jedi and the galaxy.

We're told that peace is a lie. And that the Jedi are dreaming, and that its time for them to wake up. It's also hinted at that the Jedi have enemies and they need to be careful about revealing truths to the wider public that could harm their Order.

So perhaps Master Torbin takes a vow of silence. Perhaps he feels guilty about his actions during this event, but does so in order to protect the Jedi and to continue the lie about this peace. If he didn't, some other the larger Order/Force User might read his feelings and discover this truth. And if that got out the galaxy might begin to believe that the Jedi aren't capable of its own protection and might need something else (A clone army, etc etc PT events)

Maybe something like that would make a Jedi fall on his sword. Either out of guilt or continue the secret to protect the Order.

 

Seen them. I really liked them. Loved the abundance of aliens.

 

Anyone have ideas about what counts as killing a Jedi without a weapon?

Using bare hands or the Force to choke them? Is the Force a weapon? Are fists?

Convincing them to kill themselves doesn’t count apparently or it might depending on the method?

Convincing one Jedi to kill another?

Almost everything can be loosely defined as a weapon, so I’m wondering what it could mean.

Or is it meant to be an impossible task?