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Sorry, I meant ‘stronger’. Dunno how that happened.

 

Hulk beat the armor off Onslaught. It didn't beat him.

 

lol @ Ironclad...

Steroids!

Also, the Onslaught thing was not replicatable here -- he had Jean Grey sever Banner from Hulk to turn himself into a pure rage monster. Sorry, but you're stuck with Puny Banner crammed inside your noggin.

 

There’s too many Hulk’s with too many different types of fights!

 

Also, on Terrax, there's also New Warriors #16 (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/New_Warriors_Vol_1_16) where he schools all of them -- including Nova (Richard Rider) -- before they have to call in the Fantastic Four, who in turn call in the Surfer, which finally defeats him.

 

So, apologies on lack of a Prepped Ultimate Reed vs. Ronan -- he already beat Quasar, which I think makes Ronan an easier foe.

Quasar vs. Graviton

Yeah, so energy drain is nice and all -- if it'll work. Franklin Hall literally is one of the four Fundamental Forces of Nature (Gravity). He's human mixed with gravitons; would energy drain work? Probably not?

Also... it's not his lead move. As all of your scans note -- he does that later in fights. Also, his Quantum Bands (and body) are subject to ... overload. Let's look at the end of that Thanos scan, shall we?

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Meanwhile, Graviton doesn't really have to worry about scale any longer...

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In terms of tanking, he takes a direct hit from Captain Universe Spider-Man (which he compares Galactus to be an easier target) and is just knocked away.

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His shields tank Thor:

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... and Atlas...

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Further, we have explicit scans of Graviton ripping apart an energy-based hero:

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Speaking of "using one's own power against them"...

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Can affect Vision whilst intangible because, y'know, mass...

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And he can go small (like Rising Stars), he can do microgravity bursts to disrupt small things rather than big ones (like, say, Quantum Bands):

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Right, again -- Quasar's pure energy -- Graviton can manipulate sound waves...

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... and light waves (I'm sure that's not useful here... )

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A straight up energy drain may not be needed. When Graviton uses his graviton blasts, Quasar will be able to absorb them, as the blasts are a beam of energy. Same goes for if he throws Quasar’s energy back at him like he did with Thor in your scan above. Quasar’s speed would allow him to easily dodge it, but he might want to just throw it back at him.

 

Gravity isn't energy, son...

And the blasts are concussive force -- so unless Quasar's suddenly got Sebastian Shaw-like powers of absorbing kinetic energy (which I don't think your scans show? They're showing energy like light, lasers, gammas, etc?) I don't think it'll help much?

 

I’m not a scientist, I’m just a nerd!

 

To be honest, even if Graviton made Quasar weigh as much as a mountain, he’d still be able to use his powers and fight. His movement would be slower, but his abilities would still be there. Remember how much this guy can lift. But this is just me thinking if Graviton managed to gain the upperhand.

What I really want to know, is how will Graviton finish Quasar off? I believe he can slow him down, but I don’t believe he has a way to stop someone of this power level.

 

Condense him into a ball and put him in the Collector's storage containers.

 

I struggled with the Hulk because of how many different types there are, and all seem to have different power levels. I would’ve personally chosen World War Hulk. Otherwise, happy with these results!

 

Wait... what?

 

I think I'm gonna only agree on Hulk over Terrax in essentially an even fight. Hulk wins more, for what it's worth. Terrax could easily win. Scan of him taking Surfer's board was nice but he was way overpowered with taking control of the board. Surfer can literally reconstitute the board. It was a bit much.

I agree Gravity isn't one of the things Quasar would normally handle and honestly, I take Graviton as having more overt power and more than enough power to finish in a non-jobber showing. Tough one though.

And yeah 24 hours for Maker... Well he gets a DNA sample and known weaknesses (none as best I can tell). I don't think he gets to analyze the Universal Weapon. So I will go Ronan.

@Yodaminch for 2 matches plz!

 

"Reed Richards stated that the best Universal Weapon design he ever discovered were on the third planet of the Kygnari System, in the Negative Zone.[1]"

So, uh, yeah? He totally knows them?

 

Does Maker have Reed's knowledge?

 

"With designs stolen from the heroes of Earth-616, the Maker created the life raft that would secure him and his allies when the Multiverse perished."



Also, you know: "As the Molecule Man powered up Reed's new Multiverse, he placed a sliver of the Maker in every reality, leading to the presence of the Maker's mind spread throughout every universe as a single mind inhabiting a different body for each reality."

EDIT: Also, vs. Ultimate Ronan: "However, Reed Richards coordinated both his team and Seed Nineteen to weaken Ronan by having Threshold absorb the powers of her friends, allies and Ronan's cosmic power against the Accuser, allowing Ben Grimm to (painfully) wield Ronan's Ultimate Weapon and slam it against its owner, defeating him" So he's got that one to study too... (slightly different)

 

Designs: He stole designs. It's a leap from that to "he knows every minute bit of data they have."

I don't think there's a sliver in Reed. For one thing, he's a "single mind" with different bodies. It would seem that Reed isn't just a body and there's no mention of Maker in him. For another, Reed made the Multiverse so he's probably not technically "616" anymore. At least at the time, I take it that he's outside or transcendent when it comes to those realities.

I will look into the Ultimate one. Seems like Reed needed a TON of outside help. But it also seems like he had no prep. So yeah gotta look into it.

 

The Ultimate-Ronan was an actual Son of Thanos -- that's a whole other ballgame. It's definitely not the same; my understanding was the Ultimate Weapons were somewhat similar though...

 

Know what, I'll go ahead and flop to Maker. His respect thread is pretty boss. Even if he can't completely hard-counter the rod, he very well may be able to design a weapon that rivals Ronan's power, and his defensive inventions can hold off multiple Thors so... Sure. He could throw an anti-Kree virus in there too maybe.

So just @Yodaminch on Quasar vs. Graviton