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Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Nov 16, 2014.

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Which unfinished story arcs would like to see fully animated in the future?

  1. Darth Maul – Son of Dathomir

    38.0%
  2. The Bounty Hunters arc

    39.8%
  3. Ahsoka arc 1 – Ahsoka's Walkabout

    21.8%
  4. The Yoda/Kashyyyk arc

    23.7%
  5. Mon Cala arc

    15.8%
  6. Ahsoka arc 2 – Ahsoka's Return to the Jedi

    28.6%
  7. Dark Disciple

    32.3%
  8. Rex and R2-D2 arc

    17.7%
  9. The Siege of Mandalore

    53.4%
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  1. GeneralSkywalker501

    GeneralSkywalker501 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    If anyone else has anymore information for this "Bounty Hunters" arc, it would be greatly appreciated, I'm interested in all the details. This is my most wanted story arc that I wanted to see.
     
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  2. The Senate

    The Senate Jedi Knight star 3

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    Sugi lives past a New Hope so they would change some things In this episode.

    Aurra Sing was killed by Beckett so it would be cool if they redid this arc with Beckett.

    I think the hunters we never see again like:Highsinger,Latts Razi,Seripas,Embos dog,etc will die in this arc.
     
  3. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    Considering how they changed things in Siege of Mandalore I honestly wouldn't mind if they redid the bounty hunter arc and just took key new canon facts into account.
     
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  4. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Hater of Mace Windu star 7

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    No, that can't be it. Ventress and the Bounty Hunters try to "save Vos" so the "Saving Vos Part 1" episode title would fit perfectly, seeing as how the second attempt to save him from Dooku was made by Asajj, Anakin, and Obi-Wan.
     
  5. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    Those others all survived, as (apart from Seripas) they all appear in Dark Disciple, explicitly set after Boba has Slave I and his Mando armour.

    Actually, the rescue attempt on Serenno must be part of Dark Disciple (the fourth episode of the Season 7 arc), since the animatic of Dooku confronting the Bounty Hunters has been released. Additionally, the initial plans to have Vos appear in Son of Dathomir (cut at some point in the early development) means that he had to have fully fallen into Dooku's grasp by that point, which only happens after confronting Ventress on Serenno.

    Therefore, the two-part 'Saving Vos' episodes must cover the rescue with Anakin and Obi-Wan (the halfway point of each part being very ambiguous to figure out).
     
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  6. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    It would be great if Disney changed there minds and decided to release a lost missions 2 or Lost Episodes were they can come out with some more arcs. I now definitely want to see the Yoda/Wookie arcs and maybe the Rex/R2 arc along with the crystal crisis animated. The Bounty Hunter arc is going to be tough all round. They've been hesitant in releasing this stuff and I don't see them changing there mind on it.
     
  7. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Hater of Mace Windu star 7

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    Wow, this has really thrown a wrench in my proposed episode divisions.
     
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  8. GeneralSkywalker501

    GeneralSkywalker501 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I wonder why we haven't gotten "Crystal Crisis" animated, maybe someday we will, I'd be a waste of money to not do it, it was in the same state as Bad Batch. This arc also ties in well to Rogue One, Rebels, and also gives us Anakin's thoughts on Ahsoka leaving. We would also get to see General Grievous being awesome, both Dooku and Grievous have more screentime in this arc then the entirety of Season 7.
     
  9. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    I agree with you on that arc, its so important that it makes me wonder why did they pass that up. They could have done it and instead of 12 you would have 16. This arc is so important, it covered the kyber crystal stuff that we would see in RO and the prequel book Catalyst, it covered Anakin dealing with the loss of Ashoka, and of course a little bit of Anakin/Obi-Wan together. It was a surprise that it was passed up. I really like what they have done with this arc and well the final episode comes out on Monday. I pray that we can get more........
     
  10. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    It's not surprising at all that Crystal Crisis wasn't included given Filoni's storytelling priorities. I never thought it would be. He lays out again here in this recent interview.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dave-filoni-making-clone-wars-142805845.html

    His storytelling priorities are about the characters and what they want and need. It's not about building bridges to Rogue One or the Obi-Wan series or even The Mandalorian. It's definitely not about building lore about the technology of the GFFA. And Anakin and Obi-Wan's story have been told in the movies. He's not interested in retelling that story. What did that arc tell us that was new about them?
     
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  11. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    You are awesome as always, thank you very much for the response.
    I need to make an updated (and cleaner) google doc with all that information.

    #RELEASETHEDELETEDJEDIARCHIVES
     
  12. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Hater of Mace Windu star 7

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    It's essential if for the sole purpose that we get to hear how Anakin and Obi-Wan feel about Ahsoka leaving. Plus Anakin is the main character of the saga. This show was an anthology with several main characters and revolving plotlines - it had something for everyone, according to Dave himself back in the day. This notion that it's Ahsoka's and Rex's show and their show only is a huge retcon and one I'm not particularly fond of.
     
  13. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    I agree with you but also technically disagree. The Crystal Crisis arc was included in fact, in the clone war legacy video which can be viewed from youtube, the Crystal Crisis animatic arc was an arc that they wanted us to have along with the Son of Dathomir comic book and the Ventress novel. So yes, they did give it to us and the Crystal Crisis arc was included in the Season 6 Blue Ray release. Bad Batch on the other hand was not released for possession until season 7 when they came out with the arcs animated.

    On a personal level, I would have liked the arc to have been animated but, I've come to the realization that the arc will remain as an animatic. As for your last question, "What did that arc tell us?" Refer to the clone war legacy video on youtube for the answer.

    The interview that you posted confirms what I had posted before, that this is the end. Which is okay because I posted on this thread the reasons why it was. The other arcs left, don't really add anything and what was released with the clone war legacy (Crystal Crisis Arc), Ventress novel (8 episode, two arcs), and Sons of Dathomir comic book arc (4-episodes) were stories that were important for us to have, its just that it wasn't being done in animated form.

    Nevertheless, I am satisfied come tomorrow that the clone wars finally has an ending, and can move forward to other types of animation for star wars.
     
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  14. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The Arcs That Were Not is the saddest imaginable episode title for Arc troopers all dying.
     
  15. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Or all the ARC-170's not produced...
     
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  16. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I need to see live action Cad Bane and Embo at some point. Need it!
     
  17. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Embo is now living the peaceful life in the sequel era, he is a farmer and needs his rest.
     
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  18. TetsuAero

    TetsuAero Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    They retconned the visual appearances of the kyuzo in the sequel era, so i wouldn't want him to appear there.
     
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  19. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    How exactly i just remember him in the kids comic.
     
  20. TetsuAero

    TetsuAero Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    You can compare konstapel Zuvio to the rest here https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kyuzo
     
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  21. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    To be honest they don't seem to mutch different. I can see some but can easily be hand waved.
     
  22. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    And so with Victory and Death finally out to watch, the 'final' episode of TCW for the forseeable future, I briefly want to shine a light on the possibility of the remaining 10 arcs being completed at some distant point yet to come by using a comparison.

    In 1979, Shada was the final story produced for the 17th season of Doctor Who. This six-part serial was written by Douglas Adams, who would later go on to write The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy to great acclaim. All scripts were completed, cast hired, sets for the story were constructed and filming began as usual. Cast and crew worked on the few sets that had been built, filming scenes on a location basis rather than in order (eg. all the scenes in a certain character's study were completed for all 6-parts of the story), including a complete location shoot in the streets of Cambridge.

    However, disaster struck when an electrician's strike hit the BBC. Production on all shows was halted, making it impossible for the remainder of Shada's sets to be built in time. Thus the serial was abandoned at this point, with the 1979 season ending one serial earlier instead. About 50 minutes of the 2 hour story were ever completed in live-action.

    That was not the end of the story of Shada however.

    The first attempt to revive the story came in 1981 just a year after it's axing, where Who's producer at the time, John Nathan-Turner attempted to lobby to remount filming on the story so as to quickly complete a truncated version to show as a special in the lengthy gap between Tom Baker and Peter Davison's tenures as the Doctor.

    Tantalising clips from Shada were used when Tom Baker declined to appear in the 20th Anniversary special, The Five Doctors, the first time scenes from the production were shown to the public.

    In 1992, during the period where Who was off the air for many years, Nathan-Turner finally realised a version of Shada to be viewed at home. Linking the completed footage was narration from Tom Baker, thus bridging the story and providing missing context. It's an imperfect attempt, missing a lot of the story's substance, but did at least provide all the completed work from 1979 at last. A script book was also included for anyone who wanted to have the full picture and dialogue that was missing from the narration.

    For the 40th Anniversary in 2003, a fully animated version of Shada was produced. This production was from scratch, recasting the majority of roles and having Eighth Doctor Paul McGann step into the lead role. So for the first time a consistent version of Shada was available, albeit in a very different form than the original. An audio only version was also released.

    2012 brought a novelisation of the story, now using Tom Baker's Fourth Doctor again for another way to experience the story.

    In 2017, a new version of Shada was put together, combining all the original footage from 1979, newly created model sequences, and animation for everything else. While it's occasionally jarring to transition from one medium to another, this was finally a version of Shada that most reflected the original version of what would have aired 38 years before.

    I say all of this to show how even though it took over 30 years, Shada finally had a 'completed' version. Now it's one of my favourite Who stories from the whole 70's, that finally got its chance to flourish. If Shada can have multiple attempts to revive and recreate itself, then there's always hope for TCW as well. We've already seen clips, novels, comics, and even animation, so it's hardly outside the realm of possibility.

    Now, TCW's incomplete episodes have both pros and cons compared to Shada.

    For cons, Shada was merely 6 episodes, instead of 40. But like Shada, a lot of work is already done on many of those, with animatics and vocals already ready and done (It's also important to note that over 30 other episodes of missing Who episodes have also been animated, over 50 years after their initial productions). Disney also has a much higher pool of budget than anything the BBC could hope to scrape together.

    Most importantly, I think, is that TCW has the benefit of being fully animated. Any revival can maintain the consistent look of the show, as the Disney+ season showed, able to seamlessly fit into what came before. So I'm still hopeful for more TCW down the line, until someday we have every arc in the forms they were originally intended. That's my take on the subject, so I hope others enjoy the comparison. It's been something on my mind for a while now, the closest comparison to TCW's state I could think of :)

    Now to finally watch Victory and Death :D
     
  23. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I say like Yoda said to Anakin let go of your attacment. Make sometihng new either a TCW sequel or a Rebels sequel. OR something new.
     
  24. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    They look similar enough. And there’s no “retcon” if we simply assume that Kyuzo don’t all look exactly the same.
     
  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Because they still need to spend more money. That’s why. It wasn’t completely finished obviously