The Battle of Hoth: Rogue and Blizzard rosters & losses

Unless I'm mistaken, Kasan originated in Rogue Squadron.

 

You're right, Rogue Ten. I don't think my son has played the game all the way through so I need to get with him and see what he knows or can find out.

 

Oh, that level is nothing! The hard level is the Sullust level. That level always kicks my Tammuz-Un.

 

I had to cheat in order to get past the Sullest level, I'm not proud of it, but I was desperate. I spent about 7 hours trying to get past it...

Is there anything in the Rogue Squadron comics that would hint at another pilot/gunner at Hoth?

 

>Rogue 10- Tarrin Datch*
>Rogue 11- Tenk Lenso*

These two came from West End Games' old Galaxy Guide 3 to The Empire Strikes Back. A pilot named Tarrin also appears on Hoth in the ESB Radio Drama.

I put together a list of who flew with the Rogues a while back. If you're all good, I'll be back once I see if its still around...

JMM

 

The list appeared online, along with a list of all the other known Rogue pilots. A lot of it was just guessed at and made up.

With the help of some of other folks, I came up with this list. A while back, Jeff Boivin came up with a number of shot down speeders using the movie, the novel and the radio drama. I noticed that according to the novelization, there were twelve speeders at Hoth. Since the Rogues' usually have no more than 12 members, it's easy to jump to the conclusion that some of the pilots and/or gunners were last minute or temporary additions to the squadron when the Empire showed up.

So, here's my list, with some explanations... Much of it is speculation, and isn't official by any means. I've tried to fill in the missing pilots with Rogues from various sources. This list could be contradicted at any time. In fact, there's a new Hoth pilot mentioned in the newer card games. I've yet to figure out where to put him.


Commander Luke Skywalker (Rogue Leader) (human male from Tatooine)
Dack Ralter (Luke's gunner) (human male from Kalist IV) KIA

- Obviously, right from ESB.



Zev Senesca (Rogue Two) (human male from Kestic Station) KIA ESB
? (Zev's gunner) KIA

- Zev's gunner has never been identified, but since the speeder exploded, it's a safe bet he didn't survive.



Capt. Wedge Antilles (Rogue Three) (human male from Corellia) ESB
Wes Janson (Wedge's gunner) (human male from Taanab) ESB

- Right from ESB



Derek "Hobbie" Klivian (Rogue Four) (human male from Ralltiir) ESB
Kesin Ommis (Hobbie's gunner) (human male from Coruscant) CCG

- We know Hobbie was there. Ommis was a gunner in the Decipher card game. He was seen standing next to Hobbie in ESB, so I figured he could be his gunner. In an early draft of ESB, Hobbie crashed his speeder in the "head" of Veers' AT-AT, and he died in the explosion. This was changed in the film, though later books do mention he was shot down at Hoth.



Tycho Celchu (Rogue Five) (human male from Alderaan) XWRS
? (Tycho's gunner)

- The X-Wing books tell us Tycho was at Hoth. His gunner is unknown.



Samoc Farr (Rogue Six) (human female) TBH
Lt. Tarn Mison (Samoc's gunner) CCG

- Samoc is mentioned as a pilot in Tales of the Bounty Hunters. Her speeder was shot down, but she survived. Mison is just a gunner from the Decipher cards, which mentioned he was stationed at Hoth. I just randomly picked him to be Samoc's gunner.



Keir Santage (Rogue Seven) (human male) CCG
? (Santage's gunner)

- Santage is named as a member of RS who flew at Endor, according to the Decipher cards. His number is just randomly chosen, and his appearance at Hoth is a guess.



Zev Kabir (Rogue Eight) (human male) KIA SWK
? (Kabir's gunner) KIA

- This other Zev and his number was in a Star Wars Kids magazine, alongside some word puzzle or game, I believe. Since he's barely a character, I picked him as one of the destroyed speeders.



Lt. Kasan Moor (Rogue Nine) (human female from Alderaan) RS
Liam Thorben (Moor's gunner) (human male) MC

- Moor is one of the starring characters in the first RS computer game. I just guessed that she'd still be with them at Hoth. Thorben is a Marvel Rogue who I just used here to fill in a blank space.



Tarrin Datch (Rogue Ten) (human male) GG3
Barlon Hightower (Tarrin's gunner) MC

- Datch is mentioned in West End Games' old Galaxy Guide 3, along with his number. A pilot named Tarrin appeared in the Radio Drama. Like the other Marvel pilot above, Hightower is used to fill up a spot on the roster.



Tenk Lenso (Rogue Eleven) (human male)KIA GG3
? (Lenso's gunner) KIA

- Tenk is from the West End Games Galaxy Guide 3. To be honest, I don't remember if his death was speculation or actually mentioned somewhere.



Dash Rendar (Rogue Twelve) (human male from Corellia) SOTE

- Rendar was one of the pilots at Hoth according to Shadows of the Empire. He didn't seem to have a gunner in the game. I made him number 12 since he was a last minut

 

One should of course remember that Supremacy states that Major Freja Covell, later commanding general of the ground forces for Grand Admiral Thrawn, was second in command to General Maximilian Veers at the Battle of Hoth.

The Hoth Limited Expansion Set to the Decipher customisable card game describes BLIZZARD TWO as having been commanded by "the treacherous General Nevar, before he was assassinated". The fact that Major Covell was second in command suggests that General Nevar was assassinated prior to the Battle.

 

I was just watching ESB...in fact I'm watching the Battle for Hoth right now, and I noticed something.

From my understanding, Hobbie is Rogue 2 during the battle. When Luke first flies into combat, he asks if Hobbie was still with him. Then later one, he says I'm going in or something to that effect to Rogue 2. In which the camera shifts to Hobbie and he replies and then Hobbie gets hit, with Luke imitating him moments later.

 

That's Zev Senesca. We never actually see Hobbie on-camera in the cockpit of a snowspeeder during the battle. We only see him in the mission briefing beforehand. While Luke mentions Hobbie's name during the battle, the pilot you're thinking of is Zev (he even refers to himself as "Rogue Two" on no less than two occasions, including when he's scouting out along the North Ridge and comes across Luke and Han in the snowdrifts after Han saves Luke).

 

So the pilot with a nosebleeding is Zev?

Hmmm, perhaps I'm just hearing things. I am tired.

So who was Luke's default wingman? Was it Hobbie, Wedge or Zev? It seems like all three of them were flying with him during the battle.

 

I don't know that they had "wingmen" per se, but simply took flight groups and went out and killed stuff. I think Zev was flying with Luke, but after he got shot down, Wedge started flying with Luke.

And yes, the guy with the nosebleed was Zev Senesca.

 

a while ago i made a list of the rogues at hoth... just found it - while not as complete as some of the other lists, it doesn't have any callsign speculation -

at the Battle of hoth -
rogue One (rogue Leader) - Luke Skywalker, Dack Ralter
rogue Two - Zev Senesca, gunner unknown
rogue Three - Wedge Antilles, Wes Janson
rogue Four - Derek 'Hobbie' Klivian, gunner unknown -- served as Luke's wingman at hoth.
rogue Eight - Zev Kabir

callsign unknown - Dash Rendar
callsign unknown - Samoc Farr (Toryn Farr's sister)

also served at the battle of hoth (most likely flying snowspeeders)

Tycho Celchu
Bror Jace
Kasan Moor

 

Wait a minute. If this Nala Hetsime was in the Jedi TCG, then is he himself a Jedi? So this would add another candiate for potential Jedi post-Endor, and do you know if he was KIA at Hoth?

 

Ah, I see.

It would be nice if the CCG would list him as DoA. I must say the CG looks excellent on that card.

Dash is a superb pilot? When you are good, you are good. Perhaps, he is slightly force sensative, which enabled him to make the shot?

 

Is it possible that Leebo was in the gunner position?

Course that would kind of explain something, , Dash shot down one(leaning over the seat to push the tow cable controls cause he was impatient, and wanted to knock one down himself, or he was technically adept and electronically binded the controls to his control panel somehow), and his gunner shot down the other(as the game showed), . Dash could only take credit for one of them, .

Course its kind of interesting how all the controls were electronically binded to my keyboard, and Joystick, . I must have superb piloting skills being capable of doing both, .