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Amph The Blacklist

Discussion in 'Community' started by Rogue1-and-a-half, Jul 11, 2016.

  1. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    She's been really insufferable for this season (and like half of the last one). I never hated her at all, but at some point she decided to go totally off the rails...
     
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  2. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, that's what a friend of mine told me. He said it was so bad, it felt like the writers hated the character and WANTED the audience to want her killed off.
     
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  3. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    I'd agree with that. And I am starting to wonder if something happened between her and James Spader. It just all seems so very odd.

    Clearly, she had to leave for a reason this season. They didn't just decide not to have the main character appear for 8 episodes. But it's all very quiet and now she's leaving after

    Her character has been shot.

    It all seems designed so that:

    Elizabeth Keen is dead by the end of next episode. Maybe not LITERALLY, but in every other way. Afterall, Katarina Rostova disappeared. It stands to reason that Katarina/Red makes her disappear for good this time. We know Kate nearly succeeded in hiding her from Red when Agnes was born. So they likely do that, and Liz is totally off the grid.

    With the blacklist somewhat destroyed, it seems like that Red will need to rebuild somehow and that is likely going to lead to a new deal with the Task Force for what I assume is the final season.
     
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  4. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    Okay, that was a very annoying episode.

    So they still don't say explicitly that Red is Katarina. But they sure as heck drop more clues:

    1) Someone took this photo. You were there weren't you? "I was there"
    2) You knew her well? "Better than anyone" (or whatever Red said)
    3) If you knew who I was before, you would never agree to kill me.
    4) And then the clip show that ONLY showed Katarina and Red caring for Liz like a parent.

    I'm ticked they didn't just fake Liz's death. They had the time if they just sped up Red's "death" scenes they could have ended with Liz on an island with Agnes, far away from all of this as she finally reads the letter.

    Instead, nope- they just kill Liz off like she's nothing. Like we haven't spent 8 seasons with this stupid mystery...

    And they still refused to say it outright!

     
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  5. DebonaireNerd

    DebonaireNerd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The lineup of guests for this season looks lit:

     
  6. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    It's interesting they decided to kill her off, assuming they don't "Vaughn in S5 Alias" her for an inevitable end of the show. But the nihilism is getting a bit much -- with Red saying he's terminal, likely soon, and ready to give up... I can't see this show going more than the one more season, as a "Red on a revenge rampage" storyline now that Red's one reason for living is gone...
     
  7. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I haven't watched it yet, but me and a friend were discussing it last night, and we both agree with these assessments. @dp4m that was my exact prediction to my friend last night. Scorched Earth season 9.
     
  8. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    we just had the finale .

    well I was enjoying it til the end , Spader was great , but
    no way would he leave her to bleed to death in the street

    the Alice statue seemed significant but I don't know how.
     
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  9. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Also, I still can't get over this after however many years of the show...
    That's not how bullets work! Holes are bigger leaving, not going in! If she were shot in the back her heart would have been all over Red!
     
  10. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Alright Blacklisters! Season 10 is under way.

    Everyone get in your season opener Honorability Rankings.
     
  11. Rew

    Rew Chosen One star 5

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    I gave up on this show after they killed off Keen (and the show's creator left). What a waste.
     
  12. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    when's Mega Boo coming back?
     
  13. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I thought Labour was supposed to care about all people equally.
     
  14. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I look forward to finding out she's been secretly alive all along in the season finale.

    Amazing.
     
  15. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    Dead tv characters are amongst some of the most disenfranchised of our society and I am proud to support them.
     
  16. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Wait this show is still on?
     
  17. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    10th season.
     
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  18. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Is it the final one? I thought I heard it was ending.
     
  19. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    I never know, I've thought it was ending for the last 4 years, and then it just comes back, and they're not short seasons, 20+ each.
     
  20. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    It is the best show on television right now. Of course it's not ending. Anyway:

    Honorability Rankings
    1. Elizabeth
    2. Dembe

    [Others Undecided]
     
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  21. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    Well, Red did it his way.

    Not sure how I feel about the ending. It was well done and appropriate. And yet, it was also simple. Which I think is why it works.

    But it’s hard to feel like it’s a fitting end for all the characters. The show changed with Liz’s death. And while Red was always great and even got a little better, it felt like a lot of the story was never fleshed out.

    We know
    Red was dying. It’s why everything was being shut down- his heir (Liz) was dead and he didn’t want Agnes to take that on. And we saw him take care of various members of his team. But, what did he leave for Agnes? Clearly he didn’t leave her with nothing-we’ll never know.

    And was that “Pinky you’re being such a mom” again supposed to point to Redarina?
     
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  22. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I liked this show for a long time. I liked watching it with you all, even if only a few of you would even begrudgingly talk about it. Thanks for this.
     
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