Mini Series The Book of Boba Fett 1.03 - Chapter 3 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Good episode, not better than the last one, but shows clues for what will come next
Less flashbacks, but what a flashback....
The cyberpunk guys, it's cool and weird in same time.
7.5/10

 

it was a weaker episode but I still liked it

 

I can't get over the silliness and the lack of care in the writing. It feels as if the story was written by a kid.

And yes, as everyone said, the punk gang sucks.

Not sure about the vote but it will be low. This show is not very good.

 

not sure everyone said the punk gang sucked

 

I might be the only person who liked

Spoiler

The literal Mod Gang.

I had the same immediate reaction, it gave me a little grin.

 

I really enjoyed the political maneuvering in this episode and seeing all the different factions in Mos Espa operating. I was sad to see this episode end. I liked seeing a gentler side to Rancors and I appreciated the witches of Dathomir reference. I imagine the costume and speeder design is going to be divisive, but I quite liked the way the speeders looked. Very PT-like. The costumes were a bit too earth-like for my tastes, but I would rather Star Wars try new things in design and run the risk of "not feeling like Star Wars" than just relying on the same old designs ad nauseum. And, man, the music during the scene where Boba returns and finds the Tusken tribe wiped out was beautiful.

My only complaint is Boba's lack of ferocity. I've been defending his character development, but I'm starting to see where the detractors are coming from. He still doesn't seem like the same guy we met in The Mandalorian. Scenes like him cuddling the Rancor would play better if we also got to see his darker side, which he evidently still has based on his earlier appearances. I'm going to reserve judgement for now, but I am starting to question Boba's characterization.

 

I absolutely agree. The episode seems to be very divisive on wider social media it seems with people either loving or hating it and the speeder gang design is definetely divise. But I personally love it and love Star Wars adding different looks, I honestly don't care for the "doesn't look like Star Wars" complaints, we don't need everything to look like the OT, occasionally freshening it up its very good.

The critqiues about the fridging of the Tuskens I think are a lot more valid. They already touched on a problematic trope with this one and now just wiping them out for Bobas character development is really not a very good look and I can understand people getting angry about it. I'm divided, I never liked the Tusken plot but this was honestly no way to end it, so ultimately I get that critique.

Boba getting his butt kicked by Krrsantan on the other hand didn't bother me that much. What is he gonna do in his underwear against a Wookiiee. And I think with the biker gang and the Pykes last episode we did get Boba portrayed as a bad ass again. But in the present timeline we haven't really seen that yet, so I can kind of understand some of the complaints. Bobas characterization generally has been a bit all over the place so far. I personally don't mind since I never cared much for Boba but I can see where people are coming from. The scene with Krrsantan was appropriate but considering what came before I also kind of get some of the complaints.

 

The speeder chase seemed familiar

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the large majority of people said so. look around here, look around reddit.
they just dont fit the theme of the show and tatooine. they look like somehting you *might* find on coruscant. but not on ****in tatooine, and not in an underworld, syndicate-heavy show.

 

They keep wasting screen time. They set up stuff without paying off. Take the Hutts. All this noise about the Hutts, then it all reduces to a trivial fist fight.

Also, they showed the wookie with a big *** gun, and then it tried to kill Boba by just strangling him?
And how the hell did it get there undetected?

 

It's Tatooine, the absolute ass of the Galaxy. It looked like ass in TPM, it looked like ass in the OT. It's the perpetual theme of this place. It's supposed to be gritty, weary, dusty, old. This is a harsh environment. There is no place for slick, clean, colorful, brand new aesthetics of Attack of the Clones. It makes no sense. It simply takes you out of the viewing. It sticks out like a sore thumb. It's really bad. And their outfits were bad. Worse than space casino people in tuxedos, but at lest you could count that off as them being in space casino in space las vegas, so it kinda made sense in-universe, I suppose. This is Tatooine. And these kids can't afford water, but can afford shiny bikes and fashion techwear clothes and cybernetic augmentations. That whole "there is no work, water is expensive" made me cringe. Everything is just so wrong about it.

 

Sorry it was awful. I loved both seasons of the Mandalorian but three episodes in and I'm not enjoying the show with my username.

 

@3sm1r was right. There is a serious problem with the world-building, writing and staging in the present timeline. Boba is in a completely unbelievable and untenable situation, and we’re being asked to accept it. Suspension of disbelief dropped this episode, and unusually, it makes episode 1 worse as a result. But first, what I liked:

Pro:
1. I find the Pykes to be compelling villains (though this is definitely a precursor to Crimson Dawn’s arrival)

2. I like the feeling that there are multiple vertical levels of criminality, and the hutts aren’t on the top. Pykes and Crimson Dawn are much more galactically powerful, while the hutts are mostly a regional power in the Outer Rim backwater. That complexity is good.

3. Rodriguez’s action scenes are just not shot well, but the direction in the non-action scenes seemed good. There are some nice shots in this one.

4. Though I object to the writing decision to kill off the Dune Sea tusken tribe (a really bad look), the scene was well shot and I felt legitimately emotional during it.

5. I loved Trejo as the rancor wrangler.

6. There’s the promise of some of the most in-depth world building in Star Wars here. It’s there. But this leads to my cons. That promise of layered worldbuilding is being criminally undercut (pun intended) by both the writing, and the staging of scenes.

Con:

1. Here is where @3sm1r was right after watching just the first episode - and it’s about the completely unbelievable position of Boba. Boba and Fennec actually do not have any muscle apart from the Gammoreans, who are then conveniently dispatched to make room for their only muscle to be the Spy Kids? I mean, the Vespa Kids. I mean, you know, those kids from Rian Johnson’s Star Wars cinematic universe. And the Twins also had no muscle except for one Wookiee, and the poor sods who have to carry them around? That’s it? Why is Boba just now learning about the various factions that control Mos Espa? He has no understanding of what’s going on, but was able to take over and now just wanders around with a couple people? Is this because of Covid restrictions, laziness, or do they want to maintain an artificial impression of Boba as a massive underdog? Just bizarre. I couldn’t believe that the writers created some thing so thin, and so I suspected that the actual situation was much more complicated, and that Boba and Fennec actually had a massive alliance in the wings. It seems this was totally wrong. Kudos again to @3sm1r for sniffing this out earlier. I suppose I had too much faith that the writers had something else up their sleeve.

2. I’m really disappointed in the fridging of the Dune Sea Tuskens. So all that characterization for them was just for Boba’s arc? And nice job…you got everyone killed. Was he too stupid to realize that the Nikto gang, or the Pykes, or both, might retaliate? Looks like it. So now he’ll…take out the Niktos, and then still try to get other Tusken tribes to be paid by the Pykes for protection? Where is this going, and why? That said, I think there was a reason that “multiple tribes” were discussed last episode. Boba may recruit them based on revenge for this atrocity, and the Champion tusken wasn’t seen among the dead, I don’t believe.

3. Why are we watching a chase between these cyber kids from a different teen franchise (and that we don’t care about) and the least impressive minor character in the show? And why is everything moving so slowly? There was really no reason for that scene except to give these kids nobody wants to see some screen time.

4. Why didn’t Boba ask Krrsantan to work for him? My guess is that bad writing dictates it. Because the cyber kids are going to be given more to do, and Krrsantan would overshadow them.

5. Man is it a disappointment to set up a showdown between Krrsantan, and then have him attack Boba in his sleep at night! Why was this huge wookiee used as an assassin? He’s a loud, hulking beast. Shouldn’t they have sent someone stealthy? You know, like the ninjas who…attacked him
in broad daylight before, for some reason? How the hell did Krrsantan even get in there?

We should’ve seen a fight between Krrsantan and Boba outside in a square, not in his bedroom with a bunch of annoying kids coming to the rescue. In what writers room was that deemed the way to go with this?

6. I love Tem, but his acting limitations are either showing, or the script is letting him down. Just not seeing much range here. And he’s not being given much acting to do apart from formal confrontations.

6. Rodriguez is ironically the weakest link in his own show. They should thank him for his enthusiasm, and leave it at that. He’s not a good director and is hurting the show.

 

If you go on Twitter you'll find a lot of people who love the aesthetic, I'd be cautious with statements like that honestly.

 

Just re-watched this episode and those tellytubby speeders don't half take you right out of the show.

 

I enjoyed many aspects of this latest Chapter. In no particular order of enjoyment, I enjoyed the following;

The "Monk Spider" at the very beginning to reflect that one of the Palace's previous owners (if that's still Canon) hangs around.

The nods to The Mandalorian with a background guest appearance of Peli Motto and her pit droids, as well as a person placing those Stormtrooper and other Imperial helmets on those massive spikes in Most Eisley. The story also had a nod to Return Of The Jedi with the painting of Luke's arrival at Jabba's Palace (with someone in here producing a close up image), as well as with that frog-like creature outside Jabba's Palace still nailing bugs, rodents and other larger prey with that tongue.

The flashback with the Sandpeople was heartbreaking and the sadness that Boba will experience once again with the loss of family will further forge this new outlook Boba has in the present.

I really enjoyed the scale of Tatooine's Dune Sea and Jabba's Palace. When Boba rode that Bantha, it reinforced how desolute and vast and hostile Tatooine's terrain is. And anytime a building such as Jabba's Palace can give the appearance of being massive, I love this because it feeds the same part of my imagination that the crashed Death Star and Star Destroyer did in the ST; where you could just imagine all of these different places to explore.

I really loved the fight between Black Krrsantan and Boba and co. It just reinforced how formidable a Wookie is in a hand to hand melee fight. He took Boba apart and even with the street kids and the Gamorreans coming at him from many directions with weapons, Black Krrsantan still beat them down. He took a few blows that hurt him, but in the end, the only thing that really stopped him was the secret trapdoor. And his appearance at this stage and attacking Boba lines up with that synopsis leak before the series started.

I enjoyed the massive passenger starship landing - similar to what Anakin and Padme. Just more really good world-building. The arrival of more Pykes must be where Boba will unite the Trandoshans, the Aqualish and the Klatoonians to fight them - which will result in Crimson Dawn coming.

I loved the Hutt interactions again and the mentioning of the Witches of Dathomir riding Rancors. Crimson Dawn must have quite the reputation to make Hutts scared as I have no doubt that's who the Twins were referring too.

I agree with the sentiment in here, those bikes we're out of place on Tatooine and belonged more at Coruscant or Canto Bight or some other "neon" urban environment. Those bikes should have been more rustic or cobbled together out of spare parts like Anakin's podracer was. The chase scene was cliche and something that has been seen before. But what enjoyed about it was that it wasn't too long and I loved seeing all of Mos Eisley's back alleys and the cosmopolitan variety of different droids, beings and aliens. Some really good world-building could be seen along the sides of the chase.

And was that Marg Klim from the Clone Wars. If it was, then it's another character to make their debut in live action and yet of another of Filoni's creations to be blended into new storylines.

And another thing that irked me a little, but is easy to move past at the same time, is how Black Krrsantan got past Fennec, the Gamorreans and the torture droid. Bounty Hunter resourcefulness I guess - which I can readily accept.

Mostly, really enjoyed the latest offering and can definitely find alot of fun and world-building in it.

Also this girl, the leader of the Street Kids who Boba appears to like, she will be the kidnap target the leaks talked about. It's still funny how leaks never mentioned Hurts.

Also with Rancor and Boba wanting to ride it, this will be what Boba rides into town to make his "statement" and arrival noticed. Hutts arrive on a big piece of bent metal being carried by slaves. Boba arrives into Mos Espa on a Rancor........ that's Gangsta and a drop the mic moment.

 

I think people are being too harsh on the droid modification gang. I agree that their introduction and induction into Boba's crew wasn't the best. But their bikes were awesome, and fit with what we know. Mos Espa is known to have some nicer looking, sleek and shiny speeders, too. Mos Espa is a nicer city than Mos Eisley.



They were more like a PT design. I think people just want the same old OT imitations, which gets boring. This was something newer and fresher.

 

I wonder if Boba Fett will actually use his rifle for once.

 

For those upset at the early demise of the Tusken tribe (and the more I think about it, the more I'm beginning to dislike that decision), I'm not convinced we're done with the Tuskens. There may be survivors of the attack (I didn't see the warrior or the child among the dead) and that might lead us to different Tusken tribes. At least I'm hoping. I'll be disappointed if the Tuskens don't play a part in the present day story.