Mini Series The Book of Boba Fett 1.06 - Chapter 6 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Sure, but he can go to Jedi Camp with Ahsoka now and again.

And Luke did a bit of scary forewaning about people not being around forever. Maybe that was a throwaway line, maybe they have plans for the Mando to go Rogue One in a season or two.

 

This pretty much sums it up. Not bad execution-wise, but not great, and a LOT of the story points bothered me, particularly Luke and Grogu. I really, REALLY hate that Grogu's fate basically came down to attachments yet again, and it makes the Luke appearance feel largely meaningless.

I thought he was brought in because he could teach Grogu how to how to use relationships in a healthy manner and teach him to let go when the time comes (I do at least love that Luke brought up the fact that Grogu will outlive almost everyone he meets). I thought this was also the reason Ahsoka passed up on training him.

However, it looks like Luke is going to amount to nothing more than a quick power up for Grogu, as all he teaches him is generic Zen stuff, jumping, and preaching robotic non-attachment yet again. Ahsoka could've taught him how to jump and then kick him out, why did she pass? She shows up with Luke for no discernible reason, and all they can say is that her "instinct" said not to train him? Complete BS.

This feels more like an excuse to force Luke into a story he had no real place in when Ahsoka would've sufficed, purely for post-ST damage control or something. If Luke is incapable of teaching his students to control their emotions, then no wonder his school failed so badly, and I've already seen Reylos and Kylo stans using it to demonize Luke and the Jedi again, so I'd rather they had left Luke out if this was all we were getting.

While this show has been a decent intermission for the Mandalorian, it has been an exceedingly poor Boba Fett show. Like I said last week, they ignored all of Boba's existing lore only to rush a terrible conflict that now has to either be resolved in one episode or dragged on into further seasons. I laughed when the Pykes blew up Garsa's place because not only do I not care about Garsa, but it's like they realized the Pykes haven't done anything menacing so far and needed a lazy "bad guys" moment.

I give this episode a 7 for execution, but a 4 for writing. I'm really starting to hate this show now.

 

Here is my speculation on how this ends.

I feel like the Pykes have to be setting up a larger villain. We already know we're heading towards Thrawn at some point ("Where is Grand Admiral Thrawn?!"), so let's try to connect the dots.

The Pykes are spice runners, or at least that is the largest part of their crime syndicate as we know it.

Where does spice come from? KESSEL.

What surrounds Kessel? BLACK HOLES.

Since we have no idea where Thrawn went to at the end of Rebels, conceivably he's using those black holes as a funnel to himself in the unknown regions, where he can control Kessel, or at least gains a foothold on the spice trade, and using those credits and the Pykes as his proxy, builds up his fleet.

Further evidence for this: the chick Mando got the spear from, whom Ashoka questioned for the whereabouts of Thrawn, is Morgan Elsbeth. Elsbeth's claim to fame? Construction of the Imperial Navy.

And that's the end of Book of Boba Fett. They kick the Pykes off Tatooine, and in the process discover the connection to Thrawn.

And that's why we got Ashoka in episode 6 - in the finale she gets the clues she needs to go find Thrawn in her own show.

And with the help of Luke and, possibly Han, she will do so, setting up Heir to the Empire, Season 1.

We have the technology thanks to Shamook (deepfake master), now is the time.

And if you want to get super crazy, Ezra Bridger after years going crazy in deep space, is your de facto C'baoth.

 

Strange that they didn't just call this Mandalorian season 3. The first four episodes being about Boba Fett makes sense in a show called the Mandalorian. No big deal.

 

There was a line this ep that luke said, that grogu was already trained and this was more to re fresh him after getting his memory back. So at most we are getting a dark saber mando grey jedi grogu.

And as someone who likes the sequel trilogy, i think the jedi order def has problems but never took it as an emotion thing with ben. Palp got into bens head with snoke as a toddler, to twist his thoughts.

 

Kind of like how the Book of John or the Book of Luke, is still about the story of Jesus. We're seeing Luke - at times - from the POV of Mando and others. Which is what it should be, now that it's not the saga, or Luke's POV story anymore.

 

I have watched this episode 8 times. WOW! Cad FREAKIN' Bane!!!

 

Let's see, the show starts with Ahsoka and Luke on the same planet. Yeah, already a 10/10 for me; could've ended the episode shortly after Mando left and I'd be satisfied enough.

Some notes and questions:

• One thing about these LA shows is that I've come to the conclusion that the Pykes don't seem to put up much of a fight; at least when they're out in the open without backup. The Sheriff didn't break a sweat taking them down.
• Interesting flashback scene from Grogu's point of view. Was he just a youngling that was being defended by a couple of unknown Knights?
• So Grogu's armor is a protective shirt, in the same fashion as Frodo's Mithril one in LOTR. And we've already seen Ahsoka modeled after Gandolf. Coincidence?
• This may seem like a stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway on here shyly as I'm embarrassed, how did Luke get Yoda's saber? I thought the saber he owned was Anakin's (and then he created his own later on).

About Ahsoka on Luke's planet

• How long could they have known about each other? I was hoping for some extended dialogue between the two, but at least we got some sweet nods like, "old friend of the family" and "so much like your father". I'm just wondering if we'll ever actually get to see when would be the first time they actually met for the first time. I won't be satisfied with a "well they know of each other through the Force" cop-out or if it's only detailed in some future comic.
• I guess the cliffhanger of the show leaves my next question up in the air: Did Luke actually train Grogu as his "first student" before he trained his sister?

Cad Bane

• I have to say the internet really stinks in terms of hiding spoilers. I knew I was going to watch the show after work, but the word of Bane's appearance in the show was already spoiled all over since early this morning.
• I've gotta say he looks pretty good. I was wondering just how they'd put his look together in the flesh, but I was pretty satisfied.
• So he's on the Pyke's payroll now. Guess some things never change. What was he doing throughout the Empire's reign?
• Offhand I don't recall, but does he have a direct history with the young Boba during the Clone Wars? Yes, I've heard that an un-released episode was supposed to have Boba killing him (which could still happen in this new show), but I don't remember if there were any other episodes with the two of them working together.

 

Yes, Cad Bane was unbelievable. Now that's a Star Wars villain. They've done such a great job adapting the animated characters into live action. Masterful.

It is so satisfying to love the Star Wars product again. This episode was literally "A New Hope" for me.

 

Grogu needs to attach himself to that vest and get Luke to let go of Yoda's lightsaber.
Grogu needs to teach him there are alternatives to choosing.
Grogu needs to teach Luke that there are alternatives to fighting but when you have all the toys you have more of a choice.
Grogu needs to teach Luke to stop being so selfish, the vest and lightsaber are too small for him so why keep them?

 

9/10.
Ahsoka's teenage sized montrals and lekku will always be a -1.

 

I'm past that by now. Just the notion of seeing her character in LA is enough for me. I'll buy the argument that the longer lekku/montrals would be a detriment to action sequences.

 

Woohoo! I got the first vote!

As for how the episode went, it's like the writers were working on the script, brainstorming for ideas, and decided to look in their old toy boxes. Ooh, look! There's an action figure I haven't played with in years! Let's write this one into the story! And that one too! And don't forget the other one!



I'm not a fan of how the multiple plot lines went all over the place, but there's a chance they can all tie together neatly in the next episode, so I'll reserve judgment on that.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stage things so that they can finally bring us this moment and fix the opportunity they missed in the last episode of TM.




Anybody else have a big "No way!" moment when the little antenna popped up in the foreground?

I'll be seriously disappointed if Garsa Fwip dies. On the rare occasions when they gave her something interesting to do, she knocked it out of the ballpark. Massive amounts of untapped potential there. I had a bad feeling when they entered with the ice cream maker, a feeling which turned to dread the instant we saw them unexpectedly leaving without it. It reminded me of a couple of bad moments I had in the middle east, which turned out to be nothing, but the moments of uncertainty stick with you.

 

I wonder if the accusations of "too much fanservice" would go away if these series were animated... Right now there's a real novelty to seeing live action young Luke, live action Ahsoka, live action Cad Bane, so it feels like a gimmick. However, it makes sense for all of those characters to be there. Mando was seeking out the Jedi and like Ahsoka said - there aren't many Jedi left.

The more these characters show up, the less gimmicky it should feel. If we saw Luke take Grogu and then never saw him again, I might understand the accusation of fanservice, but I think this episode made it clear that he's going to be an integral part of the story of Din Djarin and Grogu. Same goes for Ahsoka. We all love those characters, so of course we're going to get excited when they show up, but so far they have been integrated well into the story imo. Mando's story that is. The spotlight has been taken from Boba Fett in his own show, but that's a separate issue. Mando stole it more than the "legacy characters".

 

They were in prison at the same time on Corusant and knew each other there. Bane request or hired Boba Fett to create a diversion in the prison for him to escape. Boba and Bossk’s diversion turned into a full fledged riot facilitating the off screen escape of other characters characters.

 

You can't seriously be arguing that LA versions of Luke, Ahsoka, and Cad Bane is a "gimmick of fanservice" all the while we're talking about them appearing in a Boba Fett show.

 

Just watched it again.

I really feel, deep down, this is close to what I always imagined the ST-era was going to be like. With the exception of a slightly older Luke, with a small established academy. Tone wise, scope, world-building, lore ... it's a dead on match. It's fun, and adventurous, with just enough depth to make you ponder the universe and your place in it. lol.

Narratively, the ST is missing its own PT, and this is more of a continuation of the saga that we should have gotten in EP 7.

I'm just loving this. Even with the few mistakes along the way.

 

Seeing Luke dogmatically adhere to the no attachments policy really was quite disappointing.

 

I might be misinterpreting what you're saying, but I was actually arguing the opposite. I don't think they're a gimmick.

 

CGI Luke just doesk work. It doesn't feel like a human thing, it's clear its eyes are not in contact with what it is supposed to be watching, its facial expressions are very rigid, its voice sounds also off and it kind of creeps me out a little.

 

Saw this pointed out on reddit, double checked D+ it is there.
I doubt Barriss or anyone connected to her saved Grogu. They probably just reused a symbol they had in the LFL library.

 

Would you prefer Mark Hamill just shave and reprise the role himself?

Of course it's probably just rumors and hearsay; but that would be an ultimate bombshell. I'd fly out of my chair if there's a cliffhanger leading into possibly the Ahsoka series with Barriss alive.

 

No. It must be ok to recast him?