Arena The Boxing Discussion Thread

Alexis Arguello shot to death.

His fights with Escalera and Pryor were me favorites.

 

He was my Dad's favorite fighter....

The younger Oscar De La Hoya emulated his (Arguello's) style.

It still stings some of his fans that they never found out what was in the bottle Panama Lewis "Mixed"......

 

Considering Pryor beat him in the rematch, I don't think there was anything worth noting.

 

^^One fight has nothing to do with the other.

That is like saying...Jason Giambi took steroids, but he hit a home run after his suspension, so case closed......

I am not saying Pryor wasn't the best fighter during those fights, I am bringing up the fact that that has been a huge controversy. Most true boxing fans still talk about that fight. I mean, a trainer yelling.."Give me the bottle...NO, the one I mixed!" Then disposing of it after the fight so it could not be tested, is kind of crazy. Pryor drank that after getting Whacked and dazed by Arguello.....

On another note....

Spike, have you heard anything out of the Hatton camp? Is he going to retire or fight on?


Also,

Pacquiao and Cotto are negotiating.

Pacman is a more talented fighter, IMO, but Cotto will enter the ring at about 160! I don't like that matchup for Manny. G.Leon thinks Pacman will knock Cotto out....I guess we will see.

 

Pacquiao is fully capable of knocking out a bigger fighter. And the Oscar can be used as reference, seeing how bad he had him reeling.

 

Oscar entered the ring at a little under the 147 LB weight limit.

Historically, when Oscar fought at welterweight, he rehydrated to the mid 150's.

So that is not really a good example.


Don't get me wrong, I think Pacquiao can win the fight. But something like the Billy Conn, and Joe Louis fight could happen also.

 

I would normally expect Cotto to beat Pacman because of the huge weight difference.

But...after seeing what Pacman did to Hatton, and considering the battering Cotto has already taken from the fight with Margarito, and also the punishment he took from Clottey, I wonder how much punishment he can take from a fast, hard punching fighter like Pacman.

I don't see the ODLH - Pacman fight as relevant, as ODLH was so weight-drained that the fight was unfair.

Heard nothing from the Hatton camp. Word is that he may come out for one last fight, possibly against Amir Khan if he beats Kotelnik for the WBA 140 title, and then retire on a high (assuming he can beat Khan)

 

Question:

Who would have won between a young Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 147 pounds?

 

I'd personally say Sugar Ray.

 

I thin Sugar Ray had a little more power. I actually think Floyd might be a little faster.

I would lean towards SRL also.

 

Wow....Arturo Gatti found dead in Brazil.

 

And his wife is the prime suspect.

 

Well...it's official...

Pacquiao VS Cotto!

The fight is happening at 145.

 

Can't wait. I think Cotto can last a little longer than Ricky did.


Khan now a world champion. An all British super-fight with Hatton is on the cards methinks.

 

Did you see Frank Warren say Ricky should retire?

The fight would be good for boxing....I hope Hatton is healthy enough though.

 

If not, and Hatton does retire, word is that Junior Witter could step up in a unification bout (provided he beats Alexander for the WBC title).

 

This is getting crazy....

Vernon Forrest was murdered at approximately 11pm last night.....

 

Whoever's next?

 

Haye - Valuev
Vitali - Arreola
Wlad - Povetkin/Chambers?

Looks like the Heavyweight scene is finally getting interesting.

 

I personnaly would like to see Haye V Arreola....

Arreola is not in very good shape, but that would be an exciting fight!

But I agree, those fights can actually make some casual fans at the very least, take notice.

 

That's the sad thing about Heavyweight. Apart from Haye, the Klits and a couple of others, everyone is out of shape. Thing is though, if a fighter gets in shape, then they start performing better. Look at Chambers in the Dimentriko fight. As soon as he got in shape he won a match against a previously unbeaten contender. More fighters should take a leaf out of their book.

 

You are right..That's the reason we never got to see Kirk Johnson live up to his potential.

 

Junior "The Quitter" Witter loses to Alexander and ponders retirement.

Good riddance I say.

 

Nate Cambell should not be complaining either...

He did not even want to give it a try...he quit, and was clearly overheard saying "stop the fight".

The headbutt was accidental, and should have been ruled so, it is also what caused the blood.

But, Nate did not want to fight.

Bradley would have won that fight in my opinion.

 

Ever the gentleman.....

Roger Mayweather arrested for battery....on a fenale boxer!


At least Floyd Jr. hasn't done that! Flayd may be an arrogant punk at times, but he has never committed a crime (that I know of), beat a female, or taken on completely his uncles classless personality....Roger once made fun of Freddie Roaches disability!