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Clone Wars The Clone Wars 7.12 - Victory and Death (SERIES FINALE!) - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , May 2, 2020.

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Grade the Episode

Poll closed May 18, 2020.
  1. 10

    59.3%
  2. 9

    20.7%
  3. 8

    11.4%
  4. 7

    2.9%
  5. 6

    0.7%
  6. 5

    2.9%
  7. 4

    1.4%
  8. 3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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    0.7%
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  1. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    I still remember being a kid and seeing The Clone Wars movie trailer in theaters. That was just a couple years of me getting into Star Wars. Now, I've had issues with this series before (Ventress has a different backstory, Grievous is lame, Maul coming back, too many filler episodes) but really, this show has been amazing and there are only a few episodes I truly don't care for. I've come around to Ventress and Maul, though I think their Legends stories are better imo. Very sad to see this series go for the Clone Wars is my favorite era. Tomorrow, I think, will be incredible.
     
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  2. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    This seems like a very ominous title for a series finale; the victory must mean for the Empire/Republic and death is that of democracy and the Jedi Order as we know it.

    This is going to be bittersweet.
     
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  3. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    From the sound of it. to relax people's expectations. this episode is very much about Ahsoka, Maul and Rex escaping. there isn't alot of mix with episode 3 in this episode.

    Not a spoiler. just so people don't go in expecting all these ways Ahsoka gets involved with episode 3 events.

    People still enjoyed it though.
     
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  4. Master_Rebado

    Master_Rebado Chosen One star 6

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    It is and it's been watched ;)

    Epic end ep ! :)
     
  5. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    It’s seems pretty obvious from other media that all three survive. How they do it, what becomes of them in regards to other communication, where they end up after they escape is the intriguing part. Especially how Filoni decides to end it all especially for Ahsoka being as he’s the co-creator of the character.

    @Master_Rebado well I guess that means I’m out of this thread.
     
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  6. The Senate

    The Senate Jedi Knight star 3

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    My prediction for this episode: Ahsoka and Rex will escape the med bay and pretend to surrender to the clones in order for the droids to get a ship ready.Rex pretends like he has still executed order 66 and Ahsoka is his “prisoner” telling them he recovered orders to capture any Jedi to use for information.Maul I think will try to sabotage the ship rather escape right away so maybe he will be doing that.Ahsoka and Rex get to the hangar and find Maul.They are about to fight when clones realize that we’re tricked and start shooting Rex.Ahsoka tried to stop Maul from leaving but she decides to save Rex instead (As said in the Ahsoka book)They get on a ship and I think at least 1 droid will get shot.Ahsoka and Rex fly off with the cruiser crashing.Ahsoka would’ve lost one other lightsabers aboard the cruiser and we might see Vader find them if we are lucky.Episode ends with Rex contacting Gregor and Wulffe and Ahsoka going to Raada.
     
  7. Master_Rebado

    Master_Rebado Chosen One star 6

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    [​IMG]

    I don't spoiler.
     
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  8. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Jedi Master star 5

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    So i just got spoiled. :mad:
     
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  9. The Senate

    The Senate Jedi Knight star 3

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    I could see Disney Plus making some sort of documentary with the creators of Clone Wars.Each episode they go into detail what one of the unreleased episodes were gonna be like.They would show us the story,concept art,etc. Then the story’s could possibly be considered canon and we would kinda see what they would’ve been like.Seems more likely then releasing another season after they said the series was done.
     
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  10. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    "Victory and Death" reminds me of "The Last Starfighter's" chant of "Victory or death".
     
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  11. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Punching Nazis in Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I’m almost never on YouTube or Twitter except for work so it looks like I can avoid spoilers unless people put them here without tagging them. I’m glad I’m still working from home because while I have two meetings tomorrow, I can watch after, and earlier than I would be able to under “normal” circumstances.

    I’m also not ready for the series finale. TCW is my kids’ Star Wars, they and their friends played Anakin and Ahsoka and Dooku on the playground when they were in elementary school. Feels like the end of an era, and it’s been a fun, if sometimes bumpy, ride.

    I’ll probably rewatch the entire series over the summer, especially if I’m still confined to my house far more than normal. Maybe I’ll find a new way to make fun of Mortis. *ducks for cover* KIDDING!
     
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  12. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Nov 10, 2014
    OMG seriously **** these Star Wars youtube channels for spoiling the last episode for me in a thumbnail..
     
  13. Kualan

    Kualan Jedi Master star 4

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    Dec 4, 2008
    They gotta get their clicks. Very annoying.
     
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  14. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Spokesman of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Maybe don't browse r/starwarsleaks 24/7. ;)

    But yes folks, while spoilers for the episode are technically fair game in this thread, most of the world has not gotten the episode, so courtesy tags are appreciated, and just avoiding discussion is even better. We'll do what we can, but the onus is also on y'all to keep yourself unspoiled.

    Stay off Youtube, Reddit, 4chan, etc. And stay out of this thread. Shoo, go away! :p
     
  15. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Jun 10, 2014
    Maul is
    the Force Unleashed.
     
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  16. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    What time does the episodes go live for eastern??
     
  17. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah there is a huge spoiler at the end that is very much part of alot of thumbnails
     
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  18. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Freaking Ignorants..
     
  19. The Senate

    The Senate Jedi Knight star 3

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    I’m not going on Reddit,YouTube,Twitter, or anything until I see the episode.
     
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  20. fett 4

    fett 4 Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm rewatching the series now. I'm on S4 ams just finished Umbara :D I really reccomend watching it in the Chronological order they have as it's so much better and makes more sense than how it was released. Cat and Mouse is the first episode but is in S2.

    I'll watch the Ahsoka and Vader scenes in Rebels but I'll skip everything else. Though not sure about World between Worlds?
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2020
  21. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Spokesman of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    NZ got it at midnight, so it might be up midnight EDT. If not it'll be the standard 3 am EDT.
     
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  22. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    I'm gonna watch it as soon as it airs in morning. Was planning on watching after work Monday evening. But I'm not waiting..
     
  23. sraw__rats

    sraw__rats Jedi Knight

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    May 4, 2014
    How could Maul lose to Kanan and Ashoka ?
     
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  24. BadAcrobat

    BadAcrobat Jedi Master star 3

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    Opinion only. And will start people on here down a dark path.
     
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  25. vong333

    vong333 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm not checking any spoilers because I want to surprised. The truth is while you can read someone's summary of what they saw, there is nothing like watching it yourself. When I watched episode 11, yeah, we can say that the clone's fire blue colored bolts from there weapon. But, on some scene's the blue color is not the dark blue but the lighter blue version. So thats why I like to watch an episode before reading some summary of spoilers because you don't get the experience.