Full Series The Clone Wars- Episode 105: Rookies Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

True I know it was more then one dream, and that it plauged him nightly, I'm just saying that you'd think it would take a bit more then that to slaughter all the Jedi that mentored him for 10+ years. Especially because she was not in any pain at the time and Palpatine says "to cheat death is a power that only one Sith has mastered but if they work together they could find the secret" The dude didn't even really have the answer, he just said they would try to figure it out LOL. It seems Anikin's dreams about his mother made him wish that he would have gone after his her earlier (even though he was busy with trying to become a Jedi) and you'd think that if he started having these sorts of dreams about Padme, he would want to take her far away to a medical facility capable of making sure she would be ok. I mean the SW universe has the best medical units, look what they did for Anikin at the end of Ep.3. The story was good dont get me wrong, I just think if he had been thrown out for not following the Jedi rules about marrage making him angry & he would have returned from assassinating the seperatists (all hopped up on using the darkside lol)& he learned she was in pain or coma it would have jelled a bit better. Like everything was falling apart & he could not take it anymore. (I know, I know, wrong thread. That just always kinda bothered me that it seems that he didnt have enough motivation to kill kids in the temple, especially looking forward to becoming a father)

 

'Hell' is a curse word, same as 'damn'. True, they're not part of the big three, but they can't be said in Y or Y7 rated shows. Only in PG and up.

 

So what? Star Wars is rated PG, Clone Wars shouldn't have any problems using hell or damn, they're not swear words any worse than drats, darn, heck, etc. They're just words, after all, collections of letters. Nothing to get all riled up about.

 

Its not everyday, other than an anime, where we have a non-comedy cartoon with cursed words in it. Hell, Damn, etc. are worse than their substitute words.

 

Well, in the GT CWs she was presented as being rather stealthy.

Actually that's even how she was introduced- she snuck up beside Dooku in the battle arena.

 

It's pretty amazing that we have a kids' cartoon show where robots execute a wounded man, a man gets eaten alive by a giant eel, and another wounded soldier blows himself up, but the use of the word "hell" is a source of surprise. Which of these things should more properly entail a PG rating?

 

If Hell and damn weren't swear words, we wouldn't have the other words (heck, drat, darn) to censor them with.

You are right in the fact that when used correctly it isn't a swear word, like King Neptune finding a "damning piece of evidence" in the Spongebob Movie, or when talking about Hell, but when using it like in the cartoon (literally as a swear), then it's bad.

 

I really loved this episode.

However, I have a problem with this series. I don't like the clones' voices. The guy is obviously a good voice actor, giving them all slightly unique tones and whatnot, but I can't help but feel that it should be Morrison.

These clones sound a little kiddy-friendly...like a kid trying to do a Jango impression or something.

Also, unlike some of you, I think Rex is a total dork. "Roger...roger." It took him like 5 seconds to say that, the droids should have just lit him up. Also, he's such an ass. "I'm Rex, I'm such a badass, look at my Mando'ade kitty cat ears. From now on you will call me Sir, and make me a sandwich and do my toenails..."

Alpha was much cooler.

 

Loved it. As with every episode... I've missed the original airing and had to watch via DVR.

The commando droids are incredible. Very nice introduction to a new weapon for the separatists. Excellent.

And I loved that we featured clones throughout. This one and the Yoda episode that kicked things off are my favorite. I'm really digging getting to know the clones, see their jokes, names, personalities. Makes Order 66 all that more stunning. That these guys who have been told by Plo Koon and Obi and Anakin (and others) about how important they are and how their deaths do matter can so readily turn and gun down their Jedi commanders.

Back back to the commando droids... excellent stuff!!!!

 

Well, in Battlefront 2 Morrison narrated but the the clones sounded nothing like him. I liked that they were different but I think there should be more of a connection to Jango.

So IMO TCW's method is a good compromise.

For me, the way they acted and sounded in that episode is exactly how I imagine them in books.

 

Well, A: Droids are pretty dang dumb and B: Rex was simply establishing his rank and authority, which is pretty dang standard for a military organization, he certainly wasn't dwelling on it like you seem to suggest.

 

Yes, I finally got to see it! And I wasn't disappointed. Great clone action, I like the interactions between them proving that they don't always need the Jedi to lead them. And the climax was great, tense up to the end and I liked Heavy's last line in response to the droid's "Do we take prisoners?"...."I don't.."

The droid commandos were eerie after seeing four episodes of zany battle droid antics...their strategies and attacks kept the clones on their toes which was refreshing to see. I hope we see more of these droids in future battles. But as they sent reinforcements, they should have sent more commandos, not basic battle droids who just stupidly charged into the battle.

And of course, seeing Grievous again was cool, his exchange with Ventress was interesting, but I thought I could slightly see resentment in Asajj's expression when she addressed him as 'lord'...their history together hasn't exactly been amicable. It will be intresting to see how their relationship(as in allies, I mean ) progresses in this series.

Like many here, even though it was an entirely clone episode, it was the best thus far just simply because the battles were in your face and not some clinical, clean space battle(which don't get me wrong, I love.).

I'm looking forward to Anakin's separation anxiety at losing R2 in the next one.. uggh, two weeks!

 

Then there's Republic Commando, in which 38 was voiced by Morrison but Fixer, Sev, and Scorch were voiced by others.

 

Makes sense, since Rex is cloned from him. Fortunately Rex didn't inherit Jango's dislike of Jedi! Not yet, anyway...

Hear, hear! Kudos go out to all the excellent voice actors. Especially the folks who have to live up to the iconic performances by such luminaries as Christopher Lee and Frank Oz on a regular basis!

If I have a criticism of this episode, it's that I think those lines should have been switched, as Hevy almost seemed to overreact a bit. Even if Hevy never looked at a regs manual, he's bound to have known from simple conversation with Fives what that eel was, having been stationed there long enough to get bored with the place. Conversely, it would have made more sense for Cody to be that over the top about Rex appearing to murder one of their own men. Still, it did underscore Cody's more conservative nature.

Still, Hevy's response to the eel and Rex's "Roger roger" both had me literally cheering, so maybe I'd better hush up!

Good catch DMan, and a very cool theme! I don't remember it being on the CW soundtrack, sadly.

Very astute observation! I could easily see that being the case.

 

Too right, and dont forget the "DIDN'T SAY PLEASE".

 

And Hevy's response to the battle droids before he blows them up was cool too!

Yeah, I thought the same thing except I thought it was someone who was a Star Trek fan...the first two episodes in the Malevolence arc had several ST refs such as the ion cannon and the nebula looking like the plasma Vger weapons from ST1 and the Mutara nebula in ST2.

And it's been ages since I've seen Last Starfighter...maybe I should watch it again for old times sake.

 

The ion cannon is a TESB reference.

 

As much as *I* liked the show, I'm really disappointed in Lucasfilm in letting the word "Hell" go by not once, but twice.
I realize it's supposed to be just like Star Wars, but this is on Cartoon Network, where things aren't rated but assumed, unless it's on Adult Swim.
My 9 year old knows he isn't supposed to say it, but I know a couple of parents who were pretty peeved about it and are now on the bubble about letting their kids watch the show.
The violence, like the Captain getting shot, is off camera, as is most of the more violent images, with the exception of droids getting shot, etc.
It may seem small to a few people (especially those without kids), but I'm still rather ticked at LFL. for doing it.
Perhaps a small warning before the show starts that it's PG and not G, like most cartoons aired before the show.

 

Seriously, Han blasting Greedo in the chest, shooting first or not, and saying "What the hell are you doing?" and "Damned fool, I knew you were going to say that" is no worse than anything shown in Rookies. A few swear words aren't going to ruin a kid.

 

Then I'll see you in hell!