Full Series The Clone Wars: Episode 307: Assassin Discussion Thread

I'll have my review up shortly.

 

As I watch this I have to say, after Sphere of Influence and The Academy, tow Ahsoka missions, she feels the need now to be unsure of herself? Huh?

Also, refugees now are Padme's number one priority? What is it with Padme and her #1 priorities? It seems to change with every epsiode.

 

Pro-tip: The episodes are not shown in a linear fashion.

 

Ahsoka just had to go the most contrived route to keep Padme alive...

 

A Obi-Wan sighting!

Heh, is Padme the Black Knight now? Someone call Arthur.

 

Now how does tha fit with the rest of the series? Ziro's in prison, yet is freed in Hostage Crisis. Aurra Sing appears in Hostage Crisis, yet is captured here. This take ace after the five Mandalore episodes, and the Boba Fett trilogy. So where are we at now?

 

It makes Hostage Crisis take place A LOT later than what we thought.

We knew it took place later thanks to "Skywalker!" but I wasn't putting it practically at the end of the TCW timeline.

 

Ok, I just have to get this out of the way. I think the Senate needs to draw up and approve a "Jammies for Jedi" Program, because apparently Jedi can't afford them. Or are we to believe there's a line in the Jedi Code that goes "There are no jammies, there is sleeping in your clothes." I mean I know Jedi aren't big on personal comfort, but gimme a break.

Anyway, the episode itself.

Good to see Yoda again, and I liked his line "Always in motion is the future". That line never gets old.

I liked Padme and Ahsoka's hug. I thought it was cute. In fact their interactions in general were really good. Especially when Padme shared advice with her and helped her through what was apparently a difficult time for her. It makes sense to me that both of them would develop a relationship of some kind with their common connection through Anakin, so their interaction is very believable.

I'm seriously loving the music in this episode as well, especially the musical themes when coming in to land at Aldaraan. Pure OT in the best traditions.

Her visions did genuinely seem to be seriously messing with Ahsoka's mind. We see a vulnerable Ahsoka. A young Padawan who is developing a new power, but is greatly unsure of herself and unsure if she can interpret what she's seeing correctly. This was definitely a character development episode and it worked really well.

Of course Aurra Sing's assassination attempt was tense. Of course we know Padme lives, but still, seeing her actually get shot was surprisingly refreshing. I like the "flesh wound" bit too. Shades of Monty Python. Of course a decoy is used in Aurra's next attempt, and I think it was good that Aurra figured it out on her own and went after Padme in her quarters. The subsequent face off between Ahsoka and Aurra, while short, worked really well, at least in my book.

Though, now at the end what we're left with what is, apparently another prequel set. Combined with the next episode's preview, apparently both this episode and the next one take place before Hostage Crisis since Bane, in the preview, is interrogating C-3P0 for a layout of the Senate Building, and not only that. Season Two's finale and the whole thing with Boba Fett also took place before Hostage Crisis. I think working out the timeline just got more difficult. Still, I take comfort that once the new model of a slightly older Ahsoka is introduced, we can at least assume episodes that use it occur after everything else. I hope.

Which leaves us with a week off. At least it's only one week and not longer.

 

aurras appearance could of been a whole lot better if there was less ahsoka i think thats what kept this from being good ahsoka over shadowed aurra in this episode lets hope the next episode is beter it has cad bane so it should be good

 

I'm huge SW fan and a huge GL fan, and up until recently a huge Dave Filoni fan. Buuuuuut...

I hate to say it, but I think I am done with this show. This episode didn't do a lot for me. And Ziro is in jail? Which makes this a prequel to Hostage Crisis? (And next week, Cad Bane is abducting Threepio to get the plans for the Senate building, which makes next week a prequel to Hostage Crisis as well?)

I'm not against prequels, but it just seems so pointless. Nobody asked for prequels to these episodes. It's not like there were questions left hanging that everybody was dying to find the answers to.

This wasn't a terrible episode, but it featured every characteristic that I dislike from season 3 so far. If this is what the show has become, then I see no reason to watch. The worst part is that my son can't even sit through a full episode anymore. He used to love this show!

 

I loved this episode till the end,made no since how Ziro is still in prison now along with Aurra Sing.
I did love hearing Yoda's theme as well as Alderaan's theme when they arrived.Even if they make since of the end they really need to stop with this type of story telling...ie.Royi Chuchi and Ahsoka being freinds and now this.

 

Oh.. where to start. Aurra was not the Aurra Sing I was looking for apparently. So she shot Ahsoka in the arm (yes, finally she's defeated), but then: "No!" Isn't it not simple to just simply roll or walk away? Aurra really wasn't decent in this episode, and it took her two tries to kill Padme. And talking about Padme, ugh. I felt this episode was a AOTC and ROTS rip off shoved into one episode. Ahsoka's visions gave away so much of the plot line, we basically just watched the entire episode in the beginning. They could have kept it short and simple to not reveal so much. After Anakin left Ahsoka again, I didn't know why Ahsoka was having dreams about Padme, and not Anakin. For crying out loud, Anakin is Padme's husband. For him to not know she's endangered, and Ahsoka does, what kind of c... is that? What was the whole point about Anakin caring for the ones he loved in the PT, but not in this particular case? He should have been there, not Ahsoka. Better yet, why have Padme endangered? That whole "Padme is gonna get assassinated" has been done before, and there was simply no tension in the episode.

Ahsoka and Padme's Best friendliness behavior was cringe-worthy enough. We barley see them together, and makes me wonder why Ahsoka is so nice to everyone, and they are nice to her. (Mainly the "good guys.") Ziro at the end was too confusing. Ahsoka's childish, bratty behavior toward Ziro was a slap-head moment, and you knew Anakin wouldn't stop her.

Overall, it could have been waaaaay better. Oh, yeah, isn't Ziro supposed to be out of jail? Or is this before Hostage Crisis. Very strange.

 

I really enjoyed this episode. It had a serious movie vibe to it, with a mix of both the original trilogy and prequels with a mix of the Manchurian Candidate thrown in for good measure.

Very good stuff from the Ahsoka/Padme interaction, which adds a new dynamic to the show. Aurra's not in this episode much but as always, she's very effective. I agree that the music was great, with familiar scores popping up. Nice to see Alderaan, I hope we see more of it on the show. Liked Padme's references to the Naboo invasion and the mention of Qui-Gon. Nice to see the Jedi Council too.

-Yoda sure as hell gave Ahsoka better advice than he ever gave Anakin about visions. Maybe because Ahsoka is a padawan but he was raking Anakin over the coals when he was 9.

-Nice to see the always entertaining Ziro but I'm confused. Was he captured again?

 

they should rename this season because there are no secrets being revealed at least i havent thought of any

 

How did Ziro hire Aurra to kill Padme if he was in jail...

 

Mary Sue Padme apparently trumps Mary Sue Ahsoka. They are really doing some stupid stuff this season. Obviously Aurra wasn't going to succeed and I was actually impressed that both Padme and Ahsoka got shot, but seriously I'm having a hard time buying that Aurra got taken down by a one armed Padme. She had plenty of time to shoot her instead of standing there and saying "oh no she has a gun". I honestly don't care about trying to make 2 females look strong if it comes at the expense of another one.

Also this was a big lead in a majorly hyped episode and that was all the payoff? Some contrived plot about Ziro the hutt and Aurra seeking revenge and it gets wrapped up nicely in about 2 minutes of action. I'm hoping and praying that a jailbreak of Aurra, Ziro, Bossk, and Boba will go down this season because as it is now a large portion of the entertaining characters have been pointlessly locked up just in order to make sure things wrap up nicely in a 22 minute episode and the good guys come out on top.

The episode wasn't bad compared to the corruption one. The actual lead in with Ahsoka and Padme's relationship helped show that Padme and Anakin view Ahsoka more as their kid then as something to argue over or be jealous of. I also liked the Yoda conversation and how the visions came back into play. The episode was actually strong throughout until the rushed ending. If it does turn out this is setup to an epic jailbreak or further machinations by Ziro then I will change my tune but as it is now this episode was great but I'm left with a bitter aftertaste. So far this season seems to be summed up by great plot ideas and botched by rushing through them and destroying all suspense. Episodic content doesn't mean you can't have loose ends. This could've been so much better as a 2 part saga with Aurra getting away this episode and next episode bring in Anakin to uncover the plot and capture Aurra and interrogate Ziro.

Anakin seemed very out of character, he wasn't upset at all that his wife and padawan got shot. I think he should've flown off the handle and either been angry at ahsoka for not telling him or have force choked Ziro or something. It isn't in his character to be calm when Padme's life was in jeopardy.

EDIT: This is a prequel to hostage crisis? That makes no sense whatsoever. How did Aurra get busted out of jail to help with getting Ziro out of jail? The timeline makes no sense to me now.

 

Don't question TCW's logic. I had difficulty understanding why Anakin didn't care about Padme and her being endangered again.

Very stupid.

 

Anybody who is locked up in prisons that have visiting hours, mail delivery and/or phone calls can get coded messages out to arrange crimes and other nasty things. Happens in RL all the time, that's why prison guards comb through everything that goes into and out of prisons and yet sometimes word still gets out.

 

I thought it was a good episode but the end really screws up my personal timeline now that Sing is locked up and Ziro is still in jail.

Another episode where we hear that Anakin is off going to fight some deadly battle that we don't get to see. Honestly after this arc is finished we better see nothing but WAR from here to the end of the series.

So far these have been okay episodes but this is Star Wars not Political Wars.

Also why did Anakin not gut Ziro right then and there. Was it because Ahsoka was there. Also I think Anakin needs to be the one to kill Ziro later on.

 

Well I enjoyed it a lot, not as much as I was hoping for but still enjoyed it to an extent. My favorite episode since Supply Lines. If you have no clue who Padme was and never saw Star Wars before I would actually be fearing for Padme's life. I feel like everything was spoiled though during the visions. Ahsoka should of had just one or two visions, maybe one of Aurra and one of Padme shot on the ground so it wouldn't really spoil everything.

I loved the confrontation in Padme's room though, not to mention how quick and swift the blasters and deflecting was, not to mention Ahsoka finally falls! Yeah! Padme with the stun gun was pretty lame to be honest though but Padme did have to live.

Again though...another prequel episode...Ziro is still in jail which means Hostage Crisis is pretty much the last episode of TCW continuity right now. I'm sure they'll talk about it in the episode guide. And now...another prequel episode in two weeks with Cad Bane finding plans to the Senate building and everything. I'm really excited for Bane's return though.

8/10 for this episode. The final confrontation really made it for me.

 

Man, oh man, Sym-Bionic Titan was awesome tonight!

This episode was okay. The Obi-Wan, Windu and Yoda sightings were nice, as was Yoda's advice to Ahsoka. The visions were nicely done, Padme took a blaster bolt to the shoulder like a champ, and we got a Monty Python moment.

Though...I nearly expected Anakin to just throttle Ziro right there with a lightsaber to the gut in the jail but he stood back and let Ahsoka do all the talking. That was unexpected. Still, I was rooting on Ahsoka here as I was last episode. These past two episodes have done her justice.

I still wanna know what Anakin has been up to these past two episodes. Whatever it is, it sounds interesting.

Next episode...I don't know. I've never been all gung-ho on Cad Bane. What's the point of torturing a droid for answers with electricity? Do they feel pain?

 

Finally, back to the Star Wars we know and love!

The plot was brilliant. None of the characters were overpowered. Ahsoka wasn't able to completely save Padme, or even herself for that matter. Yet she was still capable, as a Padawan should be. And Padme...she was actually quite tolorable! And this is coming from someone who just about threw the remote at the TV during Senate Murders. I am really liking her relationship with Ahsoka, too, The visuals were once again stunning.

And a special to the music! Yoda's theme AND Leia's theme?! For once, the music didn't just sound like white noise in the background, but rather a part of the story itself.

I also liked Ahsoka's plan. And did anyone else enjoy the close-up of the Bettybot? I giggled at the fact that the paint on the lips was smudgy. I don't know why. I'm just weird like that.

Ziro was once again...interesting. I like how the TCW team has used him thus far. He's over-the-top, yet used conservatively. A very smart move...

The only had two gripes: 1) It felt quite rushed. Within five minutes Ahsoka had three or four visions and talked to Anakin, Yoda, and Padme. 2) Yet another villain captured. Interestingly enough, it seems this is a prequel to Hostage Crisis, which now takes place after the Boba Fett trilogy.

And someone (sorry, I don't remember who [face_doh!) made a good point: how can Aurra rescue Ziro is she's in jail, too? I hope this isn't an oversight by the TCW team...

 

Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

 

I forgot to mention that in my post. But yeah. I believe that he had "contacts" with the outside world, and he must have gotten word out to somebody else to contract a hit on Padme.

...but what's stopping him from doing it again? Anakin and Ahsoka visit him and trick him into confessing...but so what? They don't do anything to stop him from contacting somebody else. (We know this because in a "future" episode he contracts Cad Bane to break him out of jail. And before that, somebody else contracts somebody else to break Aurra out of jail. *head explodes*)

 

hoping once we get that jailbreak episode we get bounties on the bounty hunters.