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The (Current) Generation Trilogy: Wii, PS3 & XBox 360 (Console Comparison & Discussion)

Discussion in 'Archive: Games' started by The2ndQuest , May 12, 2005.

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  1. kidwehatethemost

    kidwehatethemost Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Does it really matter how good the PS3 and Xbox 360 graphics are?

    PC in a year will more then surpass both of them, and what? PC is the reason PS3 and Xbox 360's have the graphx they do.

    I mean, the xbox gpu processer is like 512mb, and so many gbs bandwidth.. and so many pixel pipelines.

    well the latest to day 7900gtx, and geforce 7950g2tx or whatever are pwning the consoles in graphics.. 1000fps! on LCD pc monitors.. where tvs only get like 50 tops.. i think.

    I m no genious, but Consoles should be more bout gameplay, cuz the graphics will be out of date in 5 more months.
     
  2. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    Oww my brain!


    Where are Mr. Period and the Bad Boys Of Punctuation when you need them?

    Damn you Tycho Brahe you made them big and they've forgotten their roots!
     
  3. anikan-skywalker

    anikan-skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The systems are good in gameplay but,I realy would have to say the 360 deffinatly wins. in those sheets I got the 360 is over it buy a little bit,you have to face the facts come on!It is true,and you all know it!and exactly the graphics dont matter,look at call of duty 2 come on it is like you are realy there the 360 already does beat ps3 gameplay!
     
  4. kidwehatethemost

    kidwehatethemost Jedi Youngling star 2

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    out of all the Consoles, Wii Rules in my book

    ps3 and xbox 360 compete with pc, and they wont win.

    i mean, theyre trying the mmo genre, and they'll never win.

    graphic wise.. we dont know what the ps3 will really look like til we see it on our home tv.
     
  5. Jaden-Skywalker

    Jaden-Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Stop saying the 360 "wins". The other consoles aren't out yet and you cannot say gameplay is better. Even if you have "the sheets".
     
  6. kidwehatethemost

    kidwehatethemost Jedi Youngling star 2

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    anakin,

    have you seen the stuff for FFX XIII for ps3?

    omg , that game alone is better then all the xbox 360 games that will come out.

    on a fun level, halo and some others might be able to compete.

    but FFX XIII on a console basis looks ground breaking.

    dude.. face the facts!
     
  7. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    ???
     
  8. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How does gameplay look the same anyway? I was under the impression that you had to play games to know how the games feels and handles...or was I wrong and you really can tell how gameplay is by how a game looks?

    Please do not mention anymore of your "sheets" that "prove" this because it's getting old really quick...as is
    "THe Xbox 360's is SO amuzing it is will WiN the gameplayzzzz warzzz ya'll!!! PS3 haZ a Lit thAk makes it looK So Reel!!! 360 Iz R the bestast yo!!"
     
  9. Yodas-evil-twin

    Yodas-evil-twin Jedi Knight star 5

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    I agree with most of that.
     
  10. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It does look very good so far.

    The thing is that I think PS3 and 360 will stay about even in the graphics department all through their entire life cycle...But by the 3rd or 4th year we start to see some PS3 games with some sligthly better graphical quality. The PS3 and 360 to me will be like Xbox and Gamecube...they were both beautiful but Xbox was slightly better. I see the PS3 as "that slightly better" graphical quality system.

    Look at this gen...The PS2 has sold the most and been around the longest and as far as I'm concerned was the most successful system this gen. It's graphics weren't as good as the later two that were released but they managed to squeeze every little ounce out of that black box...and managed to create some killer titles because so. Wii may not have the pure raw power that the other systems have but that doesn't mean it won't be able to compete and cannot come out on top this gen.

    Gameplay and graphics are equally important. I hate how people are belittling 360 and PS3 just because they are more focused on the look of the game...while other's critisize Wii for only focusing on gameplay and not enough on graphics. It seems everyone has a reason to rip any one of the systems a new one...

     
  11. kidwehatethemost

    kidwehatethemost Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I like this comment. the gameplay and graphics are equally important. Try playing a Battlefield 2 or even 007 goldent eye on a SNES or Atari.

    i mean hardware does count. But gameplay is important for the fun factor.

    IMO i think the Wii will have good graphics, not like hd quality like top pc,ps3, and xbox 360.
    but good enuff
     
  12. anikan-skywalker

    anikan-skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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  13. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Blu-ray Discs can hold 25GB on a single layer and 50GB on the dual-layer discs, while HD DVD discs will hold only 30GB on a dual-layered disc.

    With 20Gb more of storage space over the Xbox software that's alot more space for alot more game...The blu-ray could basically render the HD-DVD obsolete in a fear years. When they really start squeezing every ounce of power out of the PS3 and 360..then we might start seeing the PS3 as the clear winner graphics wise. Which is just a theory of mine...But while xbox basically uses a high definition DVD player to make games and play movies...Sony is basically creating a new format all together while Microsoft is just taking DVD's one step futher. This could be Betamax and VHS all over again...

    Anikan-Skywalker...What systems do you currently own?

     
  14. Sn4tcH

    Sn4tcH Jedi Master star 4

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    First off, the Final Fantasy for 360 is Final Fantasy XI. That game is nothing like any other Final Fantasy game ever made, because it is an MMORPG rather than a normal RPG. You can't compare FFXI with any other Final Fantasy because it's a totally different kind of game. Because of that, FFXI is NOT just as good as all the other Final Fantasy games, because it IS different.

    So you read Xbox magazine and that's why you want a 360? READ A DIFFERENT MAGAZINE! What do you think Xbox is going to say about themselves? Do you really think they would willingly admit that their console will be less powerful than anyone elses? Or that their games have worse gameplay than anyone else? Look, go find a Game Informer, it talks about every system, not just the Xbox. Then maybe you can form a real opinion.

    Fair enough.

    Blu-Ray is a disk, like DVD. It has nothing to do with graphics. The Blu-Ray can hold more information in it than a HD-DVD. HD-DVD is what the 360 uses. In other words, PS3 games will be able to be bigger and badder than even the biggest 360 games simply because they have more space to do so. But remember, Blu-ray is NOT graphics.

    Everything you just said, the PS3 can also do. Also, I was looking at screenshots of Fight Night Round 3, and the graphics look nearly the same. Like someone else said, as far as graphics go, PS3 looks a little bit better than the 360. But it depends on the games in the end. Halo 3 and MGS4 can look as good as they want, but will they be good games? Will Gears of War really be any good? Heck, any game can look good, but is it fun?

    But in the end, PS3 isn't even out, so you cannot talk about it. You can tell us all how much you love the 360, but don't tell us it's better than a PS3, because you have not PLAYED a PS3. So how can you tell?

    Also, as far as specs go, the PS3 is more powerful than the Xbox 360. And if you want to argue with me, go ahead. I have the sheets to prove you wrong. ;)
     
  15. Yodas-evil-twin

    Yodas-evil-twin Jedi Knight star 5

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    On these boards, we have a saying, which is post proof or retract. You keep mentioning all these sheets, and yet you never post a link to them, which doesn't help your argument one bit. So either post a link or change your tune, because right now you look like a liar.

    Also, you should consider reading magazines such as Game Informer, since those offer a more balanced outlook on all three systems, rather than those that cater specifically to fans of one console.
     
  16. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yea...that's like reading an Nintendo magazine where all they preach about are nintendo games. Read magazines that cover all systems and companies that way you won't have abias toward one system or another...

    But Nintendo does rule tho. ;)
     
  17. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Man, this thread is turning into a war. Leave trolls alone and they'll eventually return to living under their bridge.


    I want to make a comment about this new generation of consoles that seems to be overlooked. If you look at the history of consoles, in each new generation the basic innovation has been both in major graphics improvements AND control scheme. In the early days, Atari and its competition has basic graphics and a single joystick with one button. With the Nintendo, the graphics were not only a major advancement at 8-bit, but the idea of the D-pad with MORE THAN ONE BUTTON, was huge. With the Genesis and SNES came 16-bit graphics and the SNES had four main buttons plus shoulder buttons (Genesis also had a 6 button controller). Then in the 32/64-bit Playstation, Saturn and N64 era we saw analog control and a more fine tuned set of buttons. In the 128-bit era of DC, PS2, GC and Xbox we saw two analog sticks, pressure sensitive triggers / shoulders, and similar configurations of main buttons became the norm.

    Now with the 360, although there is a graphics update, there is no real controller innovation. The PS3 has a slight addition of tilt along with their major graphics update. The Wii has an amazing innovation in control, but not as big a leap in graphics.

    If you look historically, it was the console that had controller innovation that eventually won out. NES vs. Sega Master System went to the NES without any trouble. Although the Genesis started strong, the SNES with its superior controller and graphics eventually won out. With the Saturn vs. PSX vs. N64, the PSX wins out with lesser graphics, but better controller and a bigger and less expensive library of games. In the last generation, the PS2 is the clear winner, even if its graphics suite is lesser than XBox and GC - although in this case all three consoles have roughly equivalent control schemes.

    Now graphics and control scheme are not the only factors that have contributed to the success of various consoles, there were many other factors. My point is that the console with the best graphics does not typically "win" a console war - market share is usually related to other factors which include third party support, price of console, price of games, ease of development, brand recognition, etc. etc. However, a graphics improvement alone has never dominated a console generation to my knowledge.

    Just food for thought. This generation is very interesting because if it wasn't for price, I would have predicted the PS3 to dominate, but in the end I think it will end up almost a dead heat 3 way tie between the three consoles 2 years from now.
     
  18. Jaden-Skywalker

    Jaden-Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Fight Night Round 3?

    [image=http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/675/675097/fight-night-round-3-20051212025457376-000.jpg]

    Nuh-uh.
     
  19. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't even know what to say to about that pic? :confused:

    Anyway graphics and control/gameplay are only two of the many main points in selling systems and games. But they are the two most prevelant...I mean whats the first thing you see in games?...The graphics. Then what you pick the controller up and experience the gameplay.

    Then comes sound, music, funfactor, extras and what not...

    !?
     
  20. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'll ask that people do try to tone down the more confrontational fanboy tendenacies- it's ok to favor a system over the other, but you should be able to show why you make your claims. We don't want this thread degrading into a console war flame thread- it's been progressing very nicely these past few months as news and facts have been released, and it'd be preferred to maintain that civility as we continue on.
     
  21. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    You are giving us diplomacy.

    The people want blood.
     
  22. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The people want new systems.
     
  23. SkyeLightrider

    SkyeLightrider Jedi Knight star 6

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    Reposted, though after reading his confession that his entire gaming information is Xbox official magazine... I don't know why.


     
  24. anikan-skywalker

    anikan-skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I saw this ps3 screen and it did look real it was called heavy rain,it still did look like it belonged in a game.


    I might get the wii it has everything the other next gens got,its graphics are almost as good,and the gameplay is the best becuase of its motion detected sensors,so you are there. Does anyone agree with me about the all above?
     
  25. anikan-skywalker

    anikan-skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I need to know how much the wii is!
     
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