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The (Current) Generation Trilogy: Wii, PS3 & XBox 360 (Console Comparison & Discussion)

Discussion in 'Archive: Games' started by The2ndQuest , May 12, 2005.

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  1. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    The DS game is for FFXII, not XIII.
     
  2. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Microsoft has been hemming and hawing for the past six years that they've got something to "one-up" Apple. They still have yet to deliver something, although the devil-deal they struck with Amazon's new movie-downloading software (Windows-only, and can't be played on iPods) is certainly eyebrow-raising. Part of the reason the iPod may be "losing" is that they haven't done anything new lately. It's been almost a year since any iPod version has been upgraded (the last truly "new" iPod was the Video iPod in October of 2005).

    I think that what Apple needs is new hardware to make it years ahead of everybody else. Again. An all-screen widescreen touch-iPod would just about do it (and to not screw up the movie system at the increasingly-misnamed iTunes Music Store). I'd be surprised if they put out a cell phone.

    It could be a nifty device, if done right. Like an iPod Nano with a bigger screen, phone bits, and built-in iSight. Sounds like an engineering nightmare. I know their relationship with Motorola is soured over the ROKR, but Motorola phones suck.
     
  3. Handmaiden Yané

    Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's basically what I said earlier.

    Also, the more you reserve Wii/PS3 games, the more systems they'll send us. Hopefully if people reserve more games the Xbox 360 shortage can be averted. So go support your local Game Stop. :p
     
  4. Maulfly

    Maulfly Moderator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Pfffft!!!

    The heck I'll pay that much for a single game!

    Bad enough the game system cost too much and they're only reducing the price in Japan in a meager attempt to generate interest at home for the PS3. But to pay the better part of $100 for a single game whose relative quality (be it in gameplay, graphics, or whatever) might be questionable?

    As it is I'm one of those that normally waits until a game's price has been lowered to around $20 before buying it. That or find it significantly on sale when it first comes out.

    Maybe...maybe only if they finally came out with the supposed last installment of the LoK series...and it's ONLY on the PS3...and I already magically have the game system...AND the reviews for the game are so good there's no way to pass up on the game at all...maybe I'd be tempted to think about getting single game at that price. But that's a LOT of maybe's even for a series I really like. If it came down to it, I'd probably just get the PC version (and I'm not a PC gamer anymore).


    I think it's going to be a loooooooooooooong time before the hubby and I even think about entertaining the idea of getting a PS3. :p
     
  5. Sn4tcH

    Sn4tcH Jedi Master star 4

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    Defiance and Blood Omen 2 were released on a few systems (which ones exactly slip my mind). Sadly I do not own Defiance, but I have played most of it... I know it's pathetic, I'm a hardcore LoK fan, and I don't even own Defiance which is like $9 now.

    And I'm pretty sure LoK is dead... Not to be the bringer of bad news, but the woman in charge of the series left Eidos so... Maybe it's not dead but the future looks grim. It sucks too because it seemed like there was only one more chapter left.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >>(and to not screw up the movie system at the increasingly-misnamed iTunes Music Store)<<

    Actually, the latest iTunes upgrade seems to have renamed the store simply "iTunes Store".
     
  7. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The price for a PS3 game reminds me of the price cartridges used to cost, especially for the N64.
     
  8. Sol_Jedi

    Sol_Jedi LA Chapter Rep star 4

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    I just like how the blue light will look on the black case of the Wii. It's like Nintendo took the idea of the blue light thing from PS2 and made it look cooler.I'll still pick up my copy of TP, but I just might wait to get the black one. Don't know for sure yet.
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    With exception to titles like Starfox 64 with pack-in accesories like a memory pak or rumble pak, I don't recall ever paying more than $50 for a game cartridge (though I've heard stories of people who did)- as far back as the NES.
     
  10. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    It's what I keep telling people:

    PlayStation 3 is now officially "Neo-Geo 2K7."
     
  11. Handmaiden Yané

    Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If my brother gets a PS3, I can just borrow games from work. :p
     
  12. Uncle_Owen_Kenobi

    Uncle_Owen_Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    PS3 games 59.99. Apparently Japan has traditionally paid more for it's games. Which will put it in line with the 360 games.
     
  13. Maulfly

    Maulfly Moderator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I'd be pretty surprised if they ever finished the series, too. :(

    Which is why I said it coming out exclusively on the PS3 AND being a really good game (since there's speculation that IF they ever did get around to finishing the series on a whim or need for more money, the quality might go straight down the toilet), that might be the only thing to make me think about getting the system. :p



    Unless they change their price points for the system and games, to me it seems only the hardcore gamers (with money to burn) and the rental business will go for the PS3. I can see people renting the system and games. IF they really like the system and find enough quality games to make it worth their while, THEN they might spring for one.
     
  14. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    You can add another "64" platform to the Virtual Console lineup: Commodore 64!

    When it comes to this part of the console, I'm excited, but I don't intend to buy any games I don't currently own in playable, non-emulation form. With such a huge (and seemingly expanding) catalog of titles, I really hope Nintendo releases more VC downloads than they have planned right at the moment (especially third-party games).
     
  15. dudalb

    dudalb Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I still maintain in the US at least Play Station 3's high price will hurt it with casual gamers. particualry since it does not have as many exclusive frachises as before. Yes, there is a hard core of PS fans who will pay whatever Sony charges, but that is not where the real profits are at.
     
  16. Sol_Jedi

    Sol_Jedi LA Chapter Rep star 4

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    Reggie to help sell Wii

    Anybody hear about this? Now that's how presidents of companies should be. Get in touch with your audience to show them you believe in your product. Just because you can crush people with your wallet, doesn't mean you can't still be a people person.
     
  17. Rouge Null

    Rouge Null Jedi Knight star 5

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    I'm tempted to haul ass to NYC and camp out for the next month-and-a-half.
     
  18. Master_EdgeCrusher

    Master_EdgeCrusher Jedi Knight star 3

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    here is some great dirt on the PS3
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14695665/looks like talk for Sony isn't all it used to be anymore.....I think they should have went with the 360 kind of way eh.......oh well. No game wars this year I guess. And being that I have seen the 360's HD DVD in action.....see yah next year Sony!

    http://games.kikizo.com/news/200609/018.asp no games will run at 1080p, nore are they giving a hdmi cable either....here is another on the cable caper http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=309

    http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb-data/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/68/t/000475 this one is very bizare, but there are sites to back it up. I guess there are some out there that are really mad

    http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/bluray/phil-harrison-spins-another-bluray-lie-192737.php and there are only 27 games maybe ready for this debute? Why lie to people? There are only 20+ BD DVD movies too...interesting

    http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/sony/ps3-cell-yields-in-the-toilet-186937.php what kind of chip is this? It must be made of gold...

    http://forums.kikizo.com/tm.asp?m=68733&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1 the games will take longer to run and that is why they are making a bigger hard drive......there will be no region code for all countries will be on the disc? The games will have to cache off the HDD, and please help me out by correcting what I might have said Surge, if by chance I goofed! It just sounds as if they built something not knowing what they had gotten themselves into....

    ok here is the one to break the camels back.....
    http://rsim.cs.uiuc.edu/Pubs/sasanka-phd-thesis.pdf

    quote:
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    The study finds that Altivec optimized H.264 decoder requires 11~12 times the processing power as an equivalent MPEG2 decoder does.

    This kind of processing power is not available to CELL, since single APU barely decodes 1080p, and would have 4 additional APUs to decode H.264 streams.(5 for H.264, 1 for audio).

    In other word, studios are stuck with MPEG2 for 1080p titles and H.264 becomes optional for 720p or 1080i titles only.

    Is this true? Is this really true?

    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153593
    here the the new name of the joystick. Not the dual shock cause I guess it doesn't

    http://www.ridiculopathy.com/news_detail.php?id=1662
    just something funny to read
     
  19. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    I have no idea what the hell is going on in this post.

    And I'm not sure I want to know.
     
  20. Master_EdgeCrusher

    Master_EdgeCrusher Jedi Knight star 3

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    did you rad whgat this part was about dirt on the PS3? Did you check all the URLS? It would make sense if you did....
     
  21. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    I have no idea what the hell is going on in this post.

    And I'm not sure I want to know.
     
  22. Master_EdgeCrusher

    Master_EdgeCrusher Jedi Knight star 3

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    so you want to disrespect a person because of his typing? I know you know what I said! There is no I do not know what this post is about thing here. I brought out a bunch of stuff about the PS3 and Sony inability to handle its business. Look at all the faulty ideals that they say is true. It is all a dream to them for they cannot even grasp what they are trying to build
     
  23. JediStarKiller2

    JediStarKiller2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What is happening to this thread???:confused:
     
  24. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    Quest hasn't posted in it enough. We're going feral.
     
  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Buncha savages in this town...


    Though MEC may have been a tad overwhelming will all the info at once, there are some interesting tibits in there. The "Sixaxis" name for the new PS3 controller now that they can't call it "shock" anymore, and the need for using MPEG2 for decoding on top resolutions stand out the most to me.

    MEC-don't mind Soontir, he's insane, is all.
     
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