Books The Darth Bane trilogy

The Darth Bane trilogy, KOTOR/KOTORII/Revan/TOR, TFU, and Plagueis are my favorite EU works to date. How can anyone not like Bane?

 

Hi,

I just read "Path of Destruction". Don't you think too that the Zabrak-trio Sirak, Llokay and Yevra resembles the trio of Harry Potter's adversaries Malfoy together with his henchmen Crap and Goyle? And the way Sirak is described remembered me of Savage Opress. While Githany is giving the Ventress in that showdown between Bane and Sirak/Yevra/Llokay at the library.

Well, there is a nice fanfiction where Githany is revived at Ruusan just to be stabbed in the back by Savage Opress with his lightsaber after she is of no more use for him and his and Talzin's plans anymore. ("Sons of Dathomir" by Tenkai Nankobo in www.fanfiction.net)

I still miss what happened to Lieutenant Ulabore from the "Twilight squadron", after Bane left. Did the troops kill him as Bane anticipated? And I also missed Bane going back to Apatros to annoy the Ore Mining Company a bit. And I would like to see him entering the Cantina of Groshik again. Or is this happening in the next books?

 

Yes - that's mentioned in Book 3, Dynasty of Evil - which has one of those troopers as a supporting character.

 

Thank you, hopefully in two days this book will be mine also.

 

Gonna have to find the time to read this trilogy before The Force Awakens comes out... after reading Bantam era novels and the entire New Jedi Order.

 

I like Bane's backstory, but hate that he kills the Brotherhood and that he took parts of the Rule of Two from Revan. His backstory makes sense for a Sith Lord and explains where he learned many things. I hate that he kills the Brotherhood because Bane is supposed to be the one who saved the Sith, not the one who sabotaged the Sith in order to change them up. He's also supposed to be the Rule of Two's creator, not it's editor.

 

By destroying the weak and ineffective Brotherhood, Bane did save the Sith.

Really in terms of the Rule of Two, taking the bare minimum of two Sith Lords, you can't even solely blame PoD for that, as two Sith Lords ruling, a Master and Apprentice, had appeared in other places as it was, with Exar Kun and Uliq, and then Revan and Malak. I'd say other people started ruining that idea before this trilogy ever came out.

 

Huh? How does destroying the weak and ineffective save the organization? Does killing a stupid sibling save my family?

Before POD, Exar and Revan only having one apprentice was because they didn't boher seeiing out a second apprentice, not because they were afraid of being ganged up on.

 

Destroys the Brotherhood of Darkness, and saves the Sith, which are more than just that one group. The Sith themselves lived on, and would have been destroyed had they continued down the path Kaan had set for them.

I'm aware of that. I'm simply pointing out that the practice of 1 Master and 1 Apprentice was around before PoD, among other groups of Sith, regardless. PoD just gave that specific reason from the mouth of Revan.

 

*ahem*



"DARTH MALAK, last surviving apprentice of the Dark Lord Revan"

From KotOR opening crawl.

I like to think that when Revan talks about the possibility of being ganged up on, he's speaking from experience.

I also like to think that's when Malak lost his jaw.

 

Yeah, at some point his apprentices probably decided "let's kill this guy" and he was just like "for reals?" and pasted them all.

 

In my head we see it depicted on page 12 of the Saga Edition Core Rulebook.

 

What is on that page, exactly?

 

This:



(Obviously it's meant to just be a Jedi vs. Sith battle... but I'm gonna stick with my interpretation)

 

Yes.

 

Endorsed.

 

I was referring to the Sith group, not the Sith ideals, and the novel fails to convey that Kaan was leading them to ruin.

 

Except the original concept never said that Bane saved that specific Sith group. There's therefore no logical reason to argue for Bane destroying that group as being of any actual significance, or contradicting anything. It said he saved the Sith, which is again far more than that group. And I think the novel made it fairly clear that Ruusan was the Brotherhood's last holdout, and that what's more they were losing ground on that planet, which is why it ended with them holed up in a cave and an army of light, which had just received reinforcements advancing on them. Kaan's group was losing the war itself, and a good portion of the novel from Bane's view is spent pointing out how flawed Kaan's group is regardless. The reasons Bane is choosing to do away with them are fairly clear to see.

 

Wait, why did this thread get revived all of a sudden? It'd been over a year since the last post.

 

Hell if I know, but i'm always prepared to argue in favor of Darth Bane and his Rule of Two.

 

I'm perfectly prepared to argue in favor of Darth Bane myself. I'm not really prepared to argue in favor of the Darth Bane trilogy, though.

Either way, though, it's kind of a sudden necropost thing.

 

Looks like we each interpreted the TPM novelization and Bane trilogy differently.

 

Appears so.

 

It is the question, what concept of Sith you have. For Bane's concept of Sith, killing the "stupid" Lords is just like a slimming-cure for a company in trouble who's unworthy or weak employees were fired by the new Chief-Executive in the big clean-up.

And for young Palpatine killing his siblings was a mean not to save his family but to save his apprenticeship to Plagueis - hence also the Sith in Bane's tradition!

BTW: Did something happen to the crystal, Qordis gave to Bane at Korriban? Will Zannah get it for her lightsaber? Or is that crystal "lost" in the next two Bane-books?