Lit The Essential Atlas and Galactic Cartography: Official Discussion

That Nikki Amuka-Bird from Jupiter Ascending, right?

 

So right off the bat, we can make a case for sloppy, lazy illustration work.

In a universe where people like Chris Trevas and others exist, this kind of work SHOULDN'T exist.

 

That picture is the Greg Land approach, minus the porn trace.

Probably.

 

And Disney cannot really claim that they could not afford better illustrators.

 

Please, try not to say the word illustrator without adding the appropriate quotation marks with your fingers...

 

I see that page also mentions Grizz Frix, the name I came up with for "What's the Story?" on TOS all those years ago. Nice to see it has made it back into canon.

 

Star Wars in 100 Scenes beat them to it.

 

Hm. Illustration flukes such as these could potentially see the return of bizarre elements of the old EU, like the Solo twins. Not as the Solo twins, but as "new" characters.

 

Bit of help? I saw this book in development but have not seen the published version. Checking: Are Lothal and Garel in the ORT up by Mon Cala? Appreciate it.

 

Can't help on this one, I'm afraid. I only put the Amazon UK order in a little while ago..

 

Hey guys, just wondering. In 2015, Modi and the team behind the Essential Atlas posted online images with the sectors for the Outer Rim, Mid Rim and Expansion Region. Did they ever release versions of these for the Inner Rim, Colonies, and Core? If not that's rather disappointing. THey aren't listed on the official Star Wars page but did Modi perhaps post them unofficially somewhere? Thanks.

 

The last version of the map, seen below, still has them up by Mon Cala. This is the second version they've shown, after they added Jedha. Not sure if it's in the book, but very likely.



That would place them, using your old Essential Atlas sectors as a point of reference, most likely in the Ash Worlds, Jubilar, or Dominus sectors. POSSIBLY in Mon Cal Space, but I have a feeling they're not.

--Adm. Nick

 

Those have not been done, but don't blame LFL. I'm the weak link -- I want to keep going but have no idea when I'll be able to free up enough time to tackle the job -- keep in mind things get exponentially harder as you go in towards the Core. But it hasn't been forgotten.

An interesting question in all this: while the geography is essentially unchanged in new canon, the ORT (and perhaps parts of the Mid Rim) are seen as much more beyond-the-borders regions in new canon than they were in Legends. I'd be happier if the sector maps reflected that.

Thoughts welcome on that point.

 

Well, I think it depends on what part of the Outer Rim you're talking about. For the worlds of the Outer Rim close to the Perlemian Trade Route, like Raxus, Lianna, and Mon Cala, they are much more cosmopolitan, advanced, and civilized. Ditto Scipio in the New Territories and Sullust and Eriadu in the galactic south.

In my mind, the "beyond the borders" worlds would be the ones far from trade routes. If you're close to a trade route, it probably likely that the worlds are advanced and therefore considered part of the galactic mainstream, so to speak.

The parts of the Outer Rim that seem to best fit the "beyond" descriptor are either in the far galactic north, far galactic south, or the Western Reaches, IMO.

I'd be curious to hear more on your thoughts as well!

--Adm. Nick

 

I'd need to start drawing, but that's pretty much what I'm thinking too.

I don't suppose there's an easy way to get Wookieepedia to spit out a list of ORT/MR sectors that have been name-dropped in new canon?

 

I just checked and I don't see a canon list of ORT/MR sectors. However, there haven't been that many referenced in the new canon, IIRC. Tons of planets & the region they exist in, but not sectors.

--Adm. Nick

 

I don't know about Wookieepedia itself, but a Wookieepedian like me can do it. I'll use the "what links here" option for the canon "Mid Rim" and "Outer Rim" articles. Let's see...

Mid Rim sectors name-dropped in canon:

Bright Jewel sector
Chommell sector
Dustig sector
Elochar sector
Juvex sector
Metatessu sector
Mytaranor sector
Perkell sector
Senex sector
Tashtor sector (Western Reaches)

Outer Rim sectors name-dropped:

Abrion sector
Albarrio sector
Anoat sector
Arkanis sector
Atravis sector
Belderone sector
Calamari sector
Centrality
Corva sector
Exterior
Gaulus sector
Gordian Reach
Greater Javin
Kessel sector
Kwymar sector
Lothal sector
Mandalore sector
Meridian sector
Minos Cluster
Moddell sector
Nilgaard sector
Nuiri sector
Paron Ree
Quelli sector
Rolion sector
Savareen sector
Sertar sector
Seswenna sector
Sluis sector
Spirva sector
Sprizen sector
Subterrel sector
Sujimis sector
Sullust sector
Suolriep sector
Tarabba sector
Tion Hegemony
Tungra sector
Velcar sector
Verine Ree
Yarith sector

Can't promise I didn't miss one or two. Please also note that canon has introduced a few more sectors whose region is as of yet unknown (refer to my index of canon locations without a proper Atlas placement).

 

Never been quoted by an official person before. Feeling special right now. AHEM but to answer your question:

The atlas was originally based on Legends, and (unless I'm missing something) the sector maps were designed with that in mind and not what came later as Canon. As much as I know things do have to defer to Canon now with the reboot, I would think that basing the sector maps off the old legends information and including Canon as much as possible would be the way to go.

In-Universe logic:

Which in turns of beyond the borders would mean perhaps leaving the sector maps for the ORT and Mid Rim as they are. My reasoning for that would be that even if the areas are "beyond the borders" in the new Canon, that doesn't prevent them from having been named so long as they've been explored. The map of Africa was decided by the old colonial powers long before the vast majority of that area was explored, but the colonial powers still said "ok we'll claim area X and call it Y" even if they had no idea what was in there. Of course the evolved over time.

Based on the maps produced in Canon (as posted by AdmiralNick for example), even though the ORT and Mid Rim are beyond the borders, the planets there are mapped in fair detail, so even if they are beyond the borders of control, galactic cartographers would know where they are, and would be able to give the sectors names even if some of them have nothing of note (or even known) in them.

For example, on the Outer Rim map currently available the sectors Sarnix, Pelgrin, and Tolonda (among others) do not show any planets in them (there may be some in the index, but I didn't check) and that would fit with my suggestion.

Out-of-Universe Logic:

Since the atlas is one of the few things consistent between Legends and Canon, it makes sense to draw from both sources to create a finalized version that can be used going forward. Even if that means that some Legends sectors may be oddly far out compared to Canon demarcations of government, that doesn't really hinder the storytelling of Canon I wouldn't think.



My 2C anyway. (Or 5 now that Canada no longer has the penny)

 

Yes, kids, try Mon Cola. It's WAY more packed with caffeine than Jolt...