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Lit The Essential Atlas and Galactic Cartography: Official Discussion

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CeiranHarmony, Oct 14, 2005.

  1. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Dark Horse's map that they released a while ago was c. 130 ABY, at least theoretically, as it showed Sekot's position of of 130. However, there wasn't anything political to it.

    Here's a link.
     
  2. modi

    modi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Planned, but there is simply not enough information about that era. The only thing I have is a sketch that shows the probable locations of the factions...


    To summarize what little we know:

    Territories:
    Hapes - neutral based on Legacy 9-10. I suppose the whole Consortium became independent.
    Chiss - part of the GE based on the Chiss moffs on Coruscant.
    Fel's faction - contains at least Bastion and Borosk.
    Galactic Alliance Core Forces - as I understand most of the Galactic Alliance was assimilated into the Empire. I'm not even sure that Core here refers to the Core Worlds.

    Shipyards:
    The only shipyards mentioned in Legacy by far are Kuat and Selonia. We know nothing about the allegiance of Selonia, but Kuat is said to produce the Pelleaon-class Star Destroyers. (even before 130 ABY? or was it just KDY not Kuat?). The shape of the Scythe suggests that the Mon Cal shipyards are still active too.

    Capitals:
    Coruscant is the GA capital till 130 ABY, after that it's the Empire's. Bastion is the Imperial capital before 130 ABY, and Fel's headquarter after 137 ABY.
    Korriban has been a Sith stronghold for about a hundred years based on Krayt's monologue. Before 130 ABY the two main Jedi Temples were on Coruscant and Ossus.

    Military actions:
    127 ABY: The Sith-Imperial War begins with the Treaty of Anaxes.
    128 ABY: The Sith show up on the Empire's side.
    130 ABY: The Empire occupies Ossus, Coruscant and beats the GA in the Battle of Caamas. The war ends with these three battles. The GA is assimilated into the Empire.
    137 ABY: Fel takes Bastion.

    The green line on the map shows Cade's journey.



    And a quick [link=http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6814/gmapblackkillikiv6.jpg][b]Dark Nest Trilogy map[/b][/link]

    The locations of the Colony and the Utegetu Nebula are not set in stone. They are placed at the Reecee-Adumar GA border by the books, the nebula in the Wild Space, 20 light-years from the border (of course it's not clear what border means here, but I assume the nearest GA planet...) and the Colony a bit rimward and deeper into the Unknown Regions. The Colony is said to be as big as a GA sector, located 1 light-year from the Chiss border...
     
  3. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    does anyone have a detailed timeline of the Legacy era
     
  4. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    does anyone remember the source of the term "Bakura Sector"--I am pretty sure it was in a source published AFTER Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds
     
  5. modi

    modi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    If you mean the beginning of the era then look here or at the last past in this thread.
    If you mean 137 ABY then there is simply not enough information...

    Triple Zero Chapter 2
     
  6. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Modi = Lifesaver
     
  7. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    A couple of thoughts from The Making of Star Wars: early on in the development of the story, George noted down an idea that there should be seven Sith, one for each sector. Later, in the guidelines for early "Expanded Universe" materials, the planet Affa is placed in the Outland Regions, in "the third sector of the Galactic Empire".

    Can we connect this to the "big" sectors like Sector One (Core, Coruscant), Sector Five (Deep Core, ?Aargau or ?Byss), and Sector Three (Kashyyyk and Bimmisaari, Mid Rim)...?

    To make seven, we could add the three from HNN - Greater Relgim Sector (Denn Wessex, capital unknown, Mid Rim?), Immalia Sector (Marcellin Wessel, capital presumably Immalia), Tarkin's original sector (Outland Regions already? Eriadu almost certainly the capital) - and possibly Bright Jewel (Ord Mantell)...?

    Incidentally, does Starfall say anything explicit about Denn Wessex's sector? The (non-Greater) Relgim Sector seems to be controlled by a Moff Vanko in Riders of the Maelstrom...

    [face_thinking]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  8. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    IIRC, Vanko is Moff of Relgim Sector, an Starfall portrays Wessex as his superior, indicating Wessex is a Grand Moff of an entire oversector
     
  9. Sompeetalay

    Sompeetalay Jedi Master star 2

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    I'm really looking forward to this Atlas. It could finally clear up the confusion that has often been created by other maps & charts. The only hope I have is that all the movie planets (mentioned ones as well) will be featured prominently, as well as all the source planets (homeplanets of creatures, species and characters) and I really hope we'll learn more about planets from the spin-offs such as Biitu, Panna, Tammuz-an, Dandelo, Zelakesh, etc ...
     
  10. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    ??? I have Vanko as Moff of Albarrio Sector, and Wessex as Moff of Relgim Sector...
    Looking at my copy of "Riders of the Maelstrom", there's this line:
    "Also, [the two Moffs] wish to keep the Imperial Governor of Relgim Sector, Denn Wessex, unaware of their meeting."
    And I derived Vanko's rulership due to these two lines:
    "The Star Destroyers Relentless, Dauntless, Invincible, and Triumphant form the core of a special task force in Vanko's sector." (p. 28)
    And from the questions at the end:
    "How many Star Destroyers are assigned to Aris Sector task force? (Answer: 4)" (p.40). The next question confirms the names of the 4 vessels. Therefore Vanko is Moff of Aris (or Albarrio, as it is called earlier) Sector.
     
  11. Melda

    Melda Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hey there. ":)

    I was wondering what the source was for Corva Yag being in the Cegul Sector. Because the Wookieepedia article for Corva Yag states that it's in the Minos Cluster (source: Adventure Journal 13).

    So . . . the Rseik Sector is between the Tantra Sector and the Minos Cluster, and the Cegul Sector is between the Elrood Sector and the Minos Cluster . . . that's good to know. I'm planning interactive story campaigns set in these regions, so I guess I'll have to move my maps around a bit, since Cegul and Rseik Sectors are where I didn't expect anything to be. Are there any other hinted at locations (thinking big divisions like sectors or star clusters, not smaller units like systems and stars) around near the Minos Cluster that aren't on the map because their positions aren't 'solid' enough yet?

    I'm also looking for any published material that has information regarding . . . well, any of the regions from the Elrood Sector down to the Kathol Sector . . . haven't really been able to find much so far. Anybody have any ideas of where I should look?

    Anyway, thank-you Modi for the excellent maps, and thank-you Cilghal for presenting the information I was previously unaware of. This will alter campaign plans, but better to take longer to get something right, than get it quickly done wrong.

    If anyone has any information on material I can look up for information on those regions towards the end of the Rimma and Trition Trade Routes . . . I would be most indebted to them. :)
     
  12. Enorniel

    Enorniel Jedi Youngling

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    Something miss in this discussion ! We don't speak about stellar and planetary maps as the RPG Galaxies official's planetary maps by example !!
     
  13. IcePirate

    IcePirate Jedi Master star 2

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    ok, i haven't been paying enough attention to this thread and now there are 33 pages of it.

    crud.

    so, is there an index to this atlas being created that will list the names of all the sw planets ever named? kind of like a map book has where you can find a street within the book.
     
  14. Enorniel

    Enorniel Jedi Youngling

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    And about the Yuuzhan Vong galaxy, is there a map ? What's the real name of "starwars" galaxy (I don't think Leia say "starwars" galaxy saying about her own galaxy) ? And anybody has an idea where is this galaxy in comparaison with the Milky Way ?

    I know, I have a lot of questions !!!
     
  15. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And about the Yuuzhan Vong galaxy, is there a map ? Nope.

    What's the real name of "starwars" galaxy (I don't think Leia say "starwars" galaxy saying about her own galaxy) ? We don't know yet.

    And anybody has an idea where is this galaxy in comparaison with the Milky Way. E.T travelled from the SW Galaxy to the Milky Way, its implied, so its somewhere nearby, anyway.
     
  16. Enorniel

    Enorniel Jedi Youngling

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    Nearby, are you sure ? But "A galaxy far far away" don't suppose that ! I found one answer to my questions, the galaxy's name is Vordarian Beltway Galaxy and it is at 850 trillion light-years from the Milky Way . But, it's according to SuperShadow and it's not really official .
     
  17. Melda

    Melda Jedi Youngling star 1

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    SuperShadow is lying scum. Read anything by him or on his site at your own peril.

    The Star Wars galaxy does not have an official name that has been given in any source. It's presumed inhabitants of the galaxy just refer to it as 'The Galaxy', much as the Galactic Republic was 'the Republic'. It's the only one that really matters, so they don't seem to have bothered naming it.

    And regarding the Star Wars galaxy as being 'close' to the Milky Way . . . "in a galaxy far, far away" << Do you realise how vast the distances are between even the closest galaxies. I think enough to qualify as 'far, far away'. ;)
     
  18. Charlii

    Charlii Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I'm sure the Galaxy has many names. In almost every language there is.

    We seldom use the scientific name for the planet we inhabit, we concentrate on naming places on it. I figure it's the same thing in the GFFA, they know which galaxy the are in and names the places that are interesting to them - the planets and systems within it.


    /Charlii
     
  19. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My apologies, I've been out of the loop for a while, when is the Atlas due for release?
     
  20. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Unknown. One day, assumedly.
     
  21. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, that's an answer enough...
     
  22. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I was hoping Jason would appear and chip in, actually. But he didn't. :(
     
  23. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    It sounded like they were just getting started on the project, so it might be a while - late '08/early '09?

    All I know is, can't wait.. [face_dancing]
     
  24. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Does anyone have any ideas on the boundaries of the Remnant right around the time of Pellaeon's last campaign versus Ackbar? We know that the aftermath left Pelly woth only eight sectors, but I am curious if we have a rough idea about the Remnant's territory at that point.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  25. modi

    modi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Check my last GCW map here:
    [image=http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2990/gmapblackpostendor4qw0.jpg]

    The boundaries are mostly based on the NEC. (Pellaeon's Empire stretching from Mid Rim to Wild Space in the northern guadrant. )