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ST The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer - Thoughts and Observations

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by sterling3763, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    If it's not Tatooine, there has to be a reason for it, and so far the only one I can even vaguely come up with is if it's in the same system as Tatooine and they want to show that system getting destroyed by a new super weapon (if there is one) but even then, you'd still have Tatooine and show the other planets in the system being wiped out, no?
     
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  2. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This thread is making me question whether or not we ever saw Tatooine, now. Even in the previous movies. After all, we never saw a sign that said "Welcome to Tatooine." The characters could have all been mistaken.
     
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  3. Spy Vs Dog

    Spy Vs Dog Jedi Master star 3

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    It doesn't HAVE to be Tatooine, but I'm not sure why they'd go out of their way to make a completely different planet look like it. You're going to just confuse half the audience that vaguely remembers "that sand planet" from previous movies.
     
  4. soul8luos

    soul8luos Jedi Master star 4

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    Rey Skywalker on Tatooine
     
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  5. Digladio

    Digladio Jedi Master star 3

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    According to rumors, the Empire is trying to get a precious artifact back (Anakin's lightsaber) and hunting John Boyega's character for treachery.
     
  6. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    Why would they fight a battle over a lightsabre? There is nothing "precious" about them.

    And I was lead to believe that the ruins of the battle were old, not something recent.
     
  7. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    Well we don't know anything about it at the mo. But it's not a stretch to believe that the sabre in question may be more than just a sabre.
     
  8. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    No, but there is speculation and then there is crazy talk ;)
     
  9. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    The saber could contain something. It might be the aura of the chosen one, or something. If the lightsaber is the mcguffin (if) there will be more to it than wanting a keepsake to hang on the villain's wall.
     
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  10. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    Well it's oft been rumoured that a lightsabre is the mcguffin... and I for one have always liked that idea. So if a lightsabre was to be something both the antagonists/protagonists desired, then one has to ask the question why? I think it would be easy to imagine, and write, a compelling reason why a lightsabre may be pivotal to the story.
     
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  11. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Exactly. And the nature of that will change depending on which saber it is they are after.
     
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  12. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    Darth PJ

    Okay - change my mind ;)

    Why would a particular lightsabre be much sought after?

    What is the story?
     
  13. Digladio

    Digladio Jedi Master star 3

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    Again, according to rumors, the Imperial Inquisitors' sole duty is to insure that no Jedi ever exists again, hence the great importance placed on recovering lightsabers and their owners. What's interesting is that there seems to be two separate factions of villains in this movie: the Empire/Inquisitors, with the main one being played by Gwen Christie in a chrome stormtrooper outfit, and Kylo Ren and his true Sith master played by Andy Serkis.
     
  14. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Depends which saber it is.

    If it's Luke's ROTJ saber, you'd have to imagine that it contains hidden information of some kind - much like the hidden crystal with the whereabouts of Dagobah in the early ESB drafts. Something that may trigger a search for Luke, or a race to stop the villain's plans.

    If it's the ANH/ Bespin saber, you have to figure the relic itself is of some import somehow - i.e. the saber of Anakin and Luke Skywalker contains a strong force aura that makes it a crucial part of some Sith ritual the villain wants to enact as part of his endgame - see also the other relics he may have been collecting - Vader's mask, etc.

    Those are just two options. I'm sure if you knew what direction the overall story was going in, it would as PJ suggests be fairly simple to make the saber the mcguffin, if that's what they wanted to do.
     
  15. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    Everything Satipo just stated... a map, the last Kyber crystal etc. etc.
     
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  16. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    A Sith-wannabe/Dark side madman could be collecting Sith artifacts in order to draw their power (Ark of the Covenant was just a box, but it held the 10 commandments), and would be quite interested in a Sith lightsaber that killed a hundred Jedi Children.
     
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  17. Grand Master Galen Marek

    Grand Master Galen Marek Jedi Knight star 4

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    Sith artifacts do not have the power they once had maybe a talisman this sith will just have to rely on the darkside.
     
  18. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    It was Tatooine before it fell to the darkside. Henceforth it is known as Darth Desolate.
     
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  19. Darth Bane The Chosen One

    Darth Bane The Chosen One Jedi Youngling

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    I knew you guys would be all over this, this morning, lots of great posts.

    Maybe I am reading too much into this/or it has already been stated but:

    Confirmed:
    "The Aurebesh on Poe Dameron’s (Oscar Isaac) vest translates to “pull to inflate.” Fans who know how to read Aurebesh figured that out the weekend the trailer was released and also pointed out that the text is upside down."

    In my head it alludes to the fact that Isaac will get shot down, possibly in that water he is seen flying over. Otherwise who cares that a pilot has a "pull to inflate" thingy on his flight suit - why bother pointing it out if its not a little tease that he gets shot down? Do you think this lends some credence to the leaks/spoilers we are seeing about the possible plot..?

    2cents..
     
  20. Darth_Zidious

    Darth_Zidious Force Ghost star 5

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    IMHO, I still think it is Luke's ROTJ lightsaber. Seeing it causes concern for Luke, so they go looking for him. The Empire doesn't care about the lightsaber but something else we don't know about yet.

    IMHO!
     
  21. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    Obviously, the x-wings are flying over water. The pilots planned for this, so the beige part of their uniforms are inflatable life vests. now, the audience at large is not going to know or care what is written on his vest, so they're not going to make the connection to crashing in the water having anything to do with the text. Just seems like an easter egg to me, but it would be neat to see a pilot shot down and using his vest to float while being rescued.

    My point is, a foreign language is not a very good device to use as foreshadowing.
     
  22. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Yeah, that's a detail, not foreshadowing.
     
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  23. spacename_the_name

    spacename_the_name Jedi Master star 3

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    Ah, I see we've gotten down to the nitty gritty here.

    I doubt we'll see the word artifact in the opening crawl either. There has to be some explanation to why such a thing would matter to the plot. In the previous ones, it's pretty obvious what's going on and can be understood by everyone.
     
  24. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    One possibility is that the Empire, after being back on its heels for 25 years, is making a comeback. They know that Luke could return to prominence if the Empire is resurgent, and so the Empire is sending out it's agents (in the form of Inquisitors) to try and find him and destroy him. They don't know where to look, but then they hear a rumor that his old lightsaber has been recovered, and they think they can track him down with a force sensitive (like an Inquisitor) who can use it as a sort of beacon.... it having a Force connection to him.

    There ya go.
     
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  25. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    So many possibilities... the only thing I'd state is that it being Luke's current lighsabre is problematic for me. 1) I doubt Han/Leia would recognise Luke's sabre... especially if he's been missing 10/15 years. 2) How'd it end up on Tatooine etc? Of course these questions may be answered simply e.g. the lighsabre may carry a hidden message etc. but I have a feeling that if the lighsabre is to work as a mcguffin (and there's no reason it shouldn't) then it should be something that all interested parties seek... and I don't see Luke's ROTJ sabre generating that much interest on both sides... not unless the sabre actually carries more significance.
     
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