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Full Series The Force Unleashed and it's role in Rebels

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Tackelberry, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. Tackelberry

    Tackelberry Jedi Knight star 3

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    Now obviously, The Force Unleashed is non-canon. However, it did have some pretty cool themes and ideas going along with it. As one of the most popular pieces of Star Wars media that took place during the Dark Times era, it would be difficult to see it not having some sort of influence on Star Wars: Rebels.

    What elements would you like to see in Rebels from the TFU timeline?

    I would like to see the Imperial stronghold on Kashyyyk for Wookiee slaves.



    I've seen a lot of hate for TFU. Unfortunately I was not on these forums with the game released, so I don't really know the reasoning behind it. Can someone explain?
     
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  2. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I could see Starkiller being a inquisitor.
     
  3. lookameatbag

    lookameatbag Jedi Master star 4

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    I just want to see Starkiller again to make up for there not being a TFU 3. I can see a TFU story arc as an adaptation of the first game only Starkiller's teaming up with the Lothal Rebels instead of Rahm Kota.
     
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  4. Kentoa

    Kentoa Jedi Master star 4

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    I hope they keep Starkiller away from canon as much as possible. I found him really lame. I mean the guy was a badass, but he was corny at the same time and whined alot. I would like to see Juno Eclipse or Rahm Kota become canon tho.
     
  5. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Starkiller was the most generic character ever.

    Well. other than Juno Eclipse.
     
  6. quinlan solo

    quinlan solo Jedi Knight

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    TFU has taken a lot of flack over the years, for at least three reasons.

    1. While "Vader had a secret apprentice" is a cool concept (and one the old EU used more than once), Starkiller seemed WAY over-powered. Having a character that can use the Force to pull a Star Destroyer out of the sky might make for cool gameplay, but having someone in this period of the timeline strong enough to give Vader and Palps combined a run for their money just diminishes them as characters. Darth and Sheev ought to be the most BA Sith in the galaxy at this point.​

    2. Having the Emperor be the driving force behind the creation of the Rebellion makes Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis look weak and incompetent. The idea that the signatories of the Corellian Treaty were unable to overcome their differences without being manipulated to do so by the Sith robs the Rebels of their agency and diminishes the courage it took for them to start the fight against the Empire.​

    3. Related to point 2, TFU rode roughshod over previous EU canon on the early days of the Rebellion, specifically with regard to when and how the Rebels found out about the Death Star. Granted, the EU already had multiple redundant accounts of how the Rebellion acquired the Death Star plans, but as to how they found out about it in the first place, TFU completely ignored and contradicted the Lord Tion story in Brian Daley's excellent Star Wars radio drama.​

    As it stands now, TFU has been decanonized three times over. First, in the Essential Readers Companion, which said that TCW's Onderon arc showed the true origins of the rebellion to the exclusion of TFU; second, when the whole EU was decanonized; and third, with Star Wars: Rebels, per James Luceno:“We’re going to lead up to A New Hope in a way that may contradict some of the stories that have been told, mostly in The Force Unleashed and books that came out around that videogame.”




     
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  7. Chancellor Yoda

    Chancellor Yoda Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Never found Starkiller to be that interesting. But the supporting cast, Juno Eclipse, Proxy, and Rahm Kota are all interesting that I would like to see return.
     
  8. captainkenbo

    captainkenbo Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Rebels looks like it's taking elements from other things so I could see them borrowing ideas from TFU
    Maybe a few episodes where Vader tries to overthrow Sidious with the Inquisitor's help and then Sidious orders him to kill him proving his loyalty
     
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  9. PapiNacho

    PapiNacho Jedi Knight star 3

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    And Revan right?
     
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  10. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well Revan at leas has the excuse of being a literal player avatar. Starkiller was just written generic.
     
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  11. PapiNacho

    PapiNacho Jedi Knight star 3

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    Also a player avatar thought. Avatars tend to be generic.
     
  12. Redimet

    Redimet Jedi Master star 4

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    I want to see General Kota be introduced and Starkiller play a roll, maybe he is an Inquisitor? I don't think him being in Rebels is a stretch because Filoni works with Sam Witwer on Clone Wars and so I think that there is a chance that he would make Starkiller canon.
     
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  13. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    i wrote elsewhere that i'd love to see starkiller as an anonymous character or just galen marek.

    he's vader's spy. no force powers. no saber. he befriends the rebels crew. maybe flirts with sabine and spends time with them. he helps them break into an imperial facility but he gets caught allowing them to escape. the empire finds info that concerns vader on starkiller. they automatically contact vader because of this.

    vader sends his shuttle to pick starkiller up so he can interrogate him personally. the imperials are intimidated. the shuttle picks him up and the inquisitor or someone else quips that he's in real trouble now. as starkiller boards we see him smirk to himself. on board we hear him contact vader. just like the game vader tells him no one can know about him, especially the emperor.

    the rebels think he's a hero. the empire thinks he's a dead man. the audience knows he's vader's spy and it shows vader has his own motives and info.
     
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  14. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    Kota's army could be one of the other factions which Tarkin hinted at, though they hardly lacked unity.
     
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  15. DreamingGod

    DreamingGod Jedi Knight star 1

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    Honestly, I think it'd be cool to make him an Inquisitor. Same idea, perhaps even the child of a Jedi that was killed, making him 3 or so years older than Ezra. They could even use the idea of him seeing the Light and forming another Cell with Kota, that the Ghost meets and allies with for an arc, giving us a taste of the disparate rebel cells.
     
  16. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Personally I like Starkiller over Luke Skywalker, as he's more of a combatant and his storyline progression and journey was more interesting. He channels both Maul and Luke and brought SW to a more up to date setting and characterization.

    Vader seeking to overthrow Sidious was hinted at in ROTS very early on. Dooku also tried to lure Kenobi over early on, and promised Opress pretty much the same thing in overthrowing Sidious. So its seems pretty much in the vein of their nature.

    The Sith always want to control everything, they want to control every criminal organization, arms dealer, black marketeer, bank, politician, government and various institutions. They also display a lack of sharing, usually they'll feign loyalty or sharing to just get ahead to eventually discard their own apprentice or master via various roads of treachery.

    Remember in SOD Sidious/Dooku also wanted to take control of Maul's Shadow Collective, so they wouldve had a monopoly on everything and could not be stopped. What they cannot control they seek to destroy. Even if they destroy it, they may seek to rebuild it in their own image as the Inquisitor class seems to be a warped and twisted version of Jedi Knights. I dont really see the issue cause we already saw that the Sith controlled both sides of the civil war of the Clone Wars, the Seperatists which are in many proto-Rebels cept for that fact that Sith successfully infiltrated and assumed control of the Seperatists senate and various other leaders and used them for their own chess game and amusement as it did the Jedi Knights/Council and the Republic. .

    We already saw the Empire using Trayvis as a face, so already they were infiltrating their way into the rebel cells to route out the insurgents and revolutionaries scattered across the galaxy. So Vader's/Sidious's manipulation of the rebel leaders would align with what we have seen in the past as it would draw them out into the light or severely strain them via sabotage. In many ways TFU was ahead of its time and at the time was a legit sequel to ROTS and felt that way.

    Fulcrum using the hood is very Darth Sidious inspired, not really sure what to make of that, less the hood in Star Wars is generic disguise technique as it was too often.

    The only one that really took a stand and led a open war against the forces of Sidious(Jedi, Sith, Republic and CIS) was Darth Maul and his Shadow Collective during the Clone Wars. He too could be planting the seeds of rebellion across the galaxy much like how Sidious had planned the downfall of Republic and Jedi.
     
  17. H-BOMB

    H-BOMB Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Don't really care for Starkiller. But Rahm Kota was an interesting design, and I could definitely see him being reintroduced as a Purge survivor, but not at the height of his game. Perhaps he loses his sight escaping from Order 66 somehow, and the Rebels crew encounter him in crazy drunk blind swordsman state and help him get back on his feet. The Aleena Jedi Master was a cool idea as well, wouldn't mind seeing him as a threat for the Rebels.

    I also really liked a lot of the enemy designs in the game, and it would be cool to see them reintroduced in some way. Rebels needs an elite corps of Stormtroopers like Shadowtroopers or Jumptroopers or something!
     
  18. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Booooooooooo Boooooooooo.
     
  19. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    A toned down version of Starkiller would be awesome, but Ezra certainly has shades of Galen Marek - especially on natural Force abilities.
     
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  20. P4KISTAN

    P4KISTAN Jedi Master star 1

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    In TFU, Bail Organa kept feeding targets and information to insurgent groups particularly Rahm Kota's personal army. Compare that to what we have seen of Fulcrum so far. I'm sure we'll see more parallels like these over the course of the next episodes of Rebels.
     
  21. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    There is no denying TFU elements in Rebels, but I hope Filoni comes up with a better idea on the foundation of the Rebel Alliance than what we saw in TFU1
     
  22. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm secretly hoping for TFU to be adapted into a spin off movie. Just tweak the story a little and we've got the perfect star wars spinoff.
     
  23. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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  24. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If it's any consolation, I doubt anyone could come up with a worse one.
     
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  25. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    been replaying these games and i love them both. they need to make 3.