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The Gray/Grey Jedi

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  1. PtrsonsZOO

    PtrsonsZOO Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    This is the first installment to this section:

    The Gray Jedi

    The Gray Jedi are neither Light nor Dark, but rather both. But the problem here, Gray Jedi are those Jedi candidates who did not decide to follow either the Light or Dark side.

    These Jedi are known also as Jedi Apprentices who are able to use both sides of the force. Luke Skywalker in "Return of the Jedi" was able to use the Force Grip on the Gamorreans to compel them unconscious, but not dead. He also used the Force Jump to escape from the Sail Barge. Another Force Power allowed him to levitate See Threepio in the Ewok's throne on Endor.

    He was "still" an apprentice. However, after becoming a light Jedi as he rescued his father from the Dark Side, he was drawn to the light side - away from the darkness.

    Yes, Gray Jedi are existing, but it is often misunderstood - such Jedi are called Gray Jedi in correct term, but they are only the apprentices, not full developped Jedi. Many people who believe in this paradoxon, that the Jedi - the most powerful of the Jedi or "Force users" - are able to use both sides, do not realize that those who use partly both sides of the force are the Gray Jedi, and with this, only Jedi Apprentices.

    They cannot master the Force, the Force masters them. They become stronger, but they become strong in the end when they decide for the Light, or the Dark Side of the Force.

    They have limited powers, not full developped skills, not fully trained they are.

    ...Jedi Mitth'raw'nurida

     
  2. PtrsonsZOO

    PtrsonsZOO Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Part 2

    Jedi come in two, well three, types. Light Jedi, Dark Jedi, and the very rare Gray Jedi. Let's discuss them all separately for game mechanics and details.

    Light Jedi use healing and defensive aspects of the force. The are filled with positive chi and do not use their gift for destruction or harm.

    Dark Jedi, or Sith Lords, are evil men and women that are embodiments of fear and corruption. The Sith are filled with negative chi and cannot use their powers to heal themselves or others, only hurt, maim, and kill.

    The Gray Jedi are a rare breed. In all of the Star Wars stories, there has only been one Gray Jedi, Emperor Palpatine. Many people think he is a Sith. They are right, he is also a Gray Jedi. The emperor used his abilities to extend his life far beyond the normal amount of time a human would live. He was still kickin' in Episode VI and was already a middle-aged man in Episode I. That would put him around a hundred years old and still able to walk around and kick out lightning! I know this thought can be contested, but he was doing pretty well with no bionic implants and all. Therefore, Gray Jedi can switch back and forth between positive and negative chi as necessary.

    Source:

    www.thecolors.net
     
  3. kitarusapien

    kitarusapien Former RMFF CR star 6 VIP

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    Which book is that from, Jen? And I do concur about the strength factor since it is often the case in Nature that it is NOT the strong that survive the ages. Look at us....we are pathetic next to the Lion, the Bear, the Shark, the Elephant, the Rhino.....if you only look at brute strength. But we are so much more, and while we can rarely master any living thing in all regards, we can counter virtually everything out there because of our diversity, our ability to harness a little of everything.
     
  4. PtrsonsZOO

    PtrsonsZOO Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Part 3

    Part VI: The Path of Baadu


    The Baadu, or Gray Jedi, are a rare breed of force users. They consciously try to remain neutral in the struggle between the Dark Side and the true ways of the Jedi. This is not an easy task, and it is harder to attain even a fair amount of neutrality when one is working with the Force. A very specialized Force Power (The Cleansing) is needed for the existence of the Baadu.

    Note: Baadu are very rare. NO non-force users (except those with Scholar: Jedi Lore 10D+) should have heard of them, and only Jedi Masters (or any Force users with 30D in total Force Skills) should have heard of them. Note that I say ?heard,? and not ?be a fountain of youth in the Ways of the Baadu.? GM's should not have their favorite tavern owners spinning off tales of the dozens of Baadu-related stories that they've heard.

    History of the Baadu
    The Way of the Baadu was spawned from Biirta Baadu, a human Jedi Master who flirted with the Dark Side for much of his very long, Force using life. He never actually became an adept of the Dark Side, but became quite well versed in its use. Biirta managed to develop a Force power that was able to keep him somewhat free from the clutches of the Dark Side. He was always just beyond reach. He never taught anybody his findings, but his journal survived. A few copies of his journal were made, and they exist scattered throughout the galaxy.

    The Baadu tend to be very solitary. There is no unity in the ranks of the Baadu, and there may be enmity between members on the rare occasions they meet. The way of the Baadu is a lonely path, and few people can maintain the duality of consciousness it requires.

    Most Baadu tend to lead ?questionable? lives, doing things along the lines of bounty hunting, smuggling, etc. Although these acts are certainly illegal (for the most part), their evilness can be questioned...

    Source:
    http://www.rpg-domain.de/JHV13/part6.htm

    Most of this stuff seems to be involved w/ RPG, so WOTC or WE might be a good source
     
  5. PtrsonsZOO

    PtrsonsZOO Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    This is cool, this site makes the suggestion that Qui-Gon might, himself be a Gray Jedi

    http://www.qui-gonline.org/features/clouding.htm
     
  6. kitarusapien

    kitarusapien Former RMFF CR star 6 VIP

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    And again, notice the maintenance toward survival. I fully believe that the Grey Jedi has the hardest task of all because they must walk the "Force" on it's razor-edge. It's not suprising to me that some would see that as leading them to only being apprentices, when in point of fact, it is far more logical that most Grey Jedi never live long enough to master such a difficult tasking. And I surmise further, that the Grey Jedi will eventually out-exist all others since their way is inherently less destructive. Note the direct path of destruction of the Sith... there are only two at any one time to preserve the unique power-base, thus they are massively powerful, but open to destruction because their Darkness allows them to be conflict-oriented and overconfident, as in Darth Maul's case, and there is no Sith to replace him quickly. The Light Jedi are really no different, since, while they exude numbers, they are usually weaker than the Sith. It is true that some Jedi are massively powerful, but the masses of them are very destroyable, because just like the mundane martial arts, the more people you teach, the more diluted the teachings become. In Episode II, this is clearly evident as even their numbers and strengths are overwhelmed by a mass of lesser evil. Several packs of Hyena will always be able to destroy a pride of Lions....such is the way of Nature. It should also be noted that the Grey Jedi is much like the Rhino....solitary, at stand-offish peace with everything around it, not destructive to it's environment and with enough strength to defend against virtually all comers with the exception of Man. I believe that if Star Wars were to continue, you'd see the Grey Jedi grow in numbers...never cohesive enough to take over, or even want to, but a most predominant Jedi in that future.
     
  7. PtrsonsZOO

    PtrsonsZOO Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Actually, I think what you are calling Grey Jedi are actually the remnants of the Jedi of Old. Check into the Tales of Jedi and the The Sith Wars TPB's, I think you'll see a lot of similarities. Or maybe they are just a closer branch of the ancient ones than the Jedi Order of the Republic.
     
  8. kitarusapien

    kitarusapien Former RMFF CR star 6 VIP

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    That could very well be so, but like all things in Nature, evolution is a continuing process and a matter of record; titling things helps to track the changes, but never changes the core of the beast. A Jedi by any other name.......
     
  9. Qui-Gone-Drinkin

    Qui-Gone-Drinkin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    interesting....
     
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