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Lit The Legacy of the Separatists

Discussion in 'Literature' started by SpecForce Trooper, Aug 19, 2018.

  1. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    The rebels seemed ambivalent about using former separatist equipment and accepting former separatist personnel into their ranks-remember the separatists wanted to break off from the republic and the alliance wanted to restore the republic.
     
  2. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    We need a good Enemy Mine situation where the Empire and Rebels team up against the filthy Separatists!

    Like Protoss and Terrans vs. the Zerg!
     
  3. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If I'm not wrong, there were a few instances in the early days of Order 66 being executed where Jedi took up arms fighting WITH the Droid Armies against the Clones. Gotta remember there was a gap inbetween Order 66 and the Droid Armies being shut down. And Separatist Command was alive and well on Mustafar during this time so... I wonder what Gunray and the rest thought about Jedi fighting alongside them out of nowhere now.
     
  4. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Besides the corporate leadership, the Separatists citizenry seems to have wanted to break off from the Republic because they were disaffected by it. I can only imagine that the Republic turning into the Empire only made them more sure of their convictions.
     
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  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Occupied for about a week, I’d say, at most. The Vong probably held it long enough to round up slaves, as they did on Ord Sedra in Imperial space in the same time period, until Katarn stopped them.


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  6. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    That episode of TCW certainly gave a good representation of Separatists on more of a personal side; despite up to that point what most had associated with the Separatists (evil Count Dooku and the droid army).
     
  7. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh huh, I found a new piece of information on Empire-Muun relations in the FFG supplement Endless Vigil, which introduced Muuns as a playable species. Seems it wasn't so much "You can keep functioning as normal" as it was "You BETTER keep functioning as normal or we're busting some skulls." Interesting, and does make the Muuns more sympathetic.
     
  8. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    The empire probably made pretty sure to threaten the muuns with having their banks and assets put imperial state control alongside busting skulls-which was enough to ensure muun loyalty to the empire.

    The republic would never have made such a threat and so the muuns could charge 25% interest rates.
     
  9. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The FFG supplements make a lot of the "bad guy" races from the movies, like the Separatist species and even the Hutts, more gray. They basically say that they aren't evil, they just have the bad luck to have their most powerful and famous members be complete piles of bantha poodoo. This totally happens in real life; think about how everyone thinks "Nazis" when they hear "Germany," even though modern Germany is a more stable and thriving democracy that the modern US. Or for that matter, perceptions of the contemporary Middle East. Welcome, in my opinion.

    I know one of the most recent ones introduces Skakoans; what does it say about them, if anyone has it?
     
  10. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    I imagine that a lot of the "bad guys" were victims of misunderstanding and prejudice as well-such as neimodian cowardice.

    And the species that signed on with the CIS probably did have legitimate grievances.
     
  11. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd imagine the negative reputation of the Separatist species and their companies predated the War itself. They were, after all, a manufactured "perfect enemy" designed to gt the whole Republic rallying behind Dear Leader Sheev.
     
  12. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Indeed-the whole war and its antecedents were set up by the Sith. Though the tensions and divisions in galactic society were real.
     
  13. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Master star 4

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    You'd think there'd be a couple very satisfied former CIS guys in the Rebel Alliance.
    "Oh, Palpatine turned out to be an evil fascist? If only someone warned you."
     
  14. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A reference to Muunilinst's original appearance in the Hand of Thrawn books as an Imperial banking world, perhaps?

    Well, probably a reflection of the fact that most of the organizations that signed on with the CIS didn't actually reflect (or care about) the opinions of the people they ruled over.
     
  15. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The FFG book that introduced Neimoidians as a playable race actually shows they MASSIVELY manned up after the War. Among other things, they abolished the whole "make our kids kill each other over food" system, signed up for the Rebellion en masse to repair their image, and even started asking their genetic forebears, the Duros, for pointers on how to un-kriff their society. That's pretty cool.
     
  16. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    I always felt the Neimodians got a short shift-and they were unfortunate that their leadership was a bunch of cowardly schemers and greedy plotters.
     
  17. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Well one really nice bit of legacy for the Confederacy of Independent Systems is a sleek, larger-than-life aurodium statue of the venerable Count Dooku. This great sculpture took a renowned Serenno sculptor nearly a decade to craft, but the result is truly worth it. To this day, it stands in the center of Liberty Square, before the legislature building on Raxus, as a reminder to all citizens of the magnanimity and nobility of the Count of Serenno.
     
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  18. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    I imagine that Dooku still retained a positive legacy on Serenno well past his death in 19 BBY.
     
  19. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    In legends this most certainly was not so. The planets association with the separatist caused the Empire to crack down hard on it .
    And The Counts nephew was placed in power (The very man he technically usurped by reclaiming his title.)

    I can't imagine either of those facts led to much positivity being throwed his way after his death.
     
  20. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would imagine after Jakku...and the NR's disarmament policy...that Separatist Worlds might be refusing NR membership and doing their own thing. What is the NR going to do...force them to join the NR against their will??
     
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  21. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Well I stand corrected then

    @Chris0013-I imagine the economic and political benefits of joining the NR outweighed any reluctance to join a republic at least after enough time had passed.
     
  22. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This presumes that the planet/system/sector does not have the resources to go it alone. My thoughts on Post Empire politics is that there will be those who want nothing to do with the NR. They spent 1000 years under Republic corruption and 20 under Imperial tyranny...why go back to either if you don't have to. I believe that realistically there would be dozens if not hundreds or individual polities in the GFFA from egalitarian to tyrannical. From a single planet to a political body the size of Hutt Space.
     
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  23. FS26

    FS26 Jedi Master star 2

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    We do know that there are some worlds that refused to join the New Republic even while maintaining positive relations, Ryloth for instance. I'm sure that several former Republic and Separatist worlds decided to stay independent, at least for some time after the end of the war.
     
  24. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Better to keep governance local and have trade deal and treaties for an area of space such as the Tion Cluster.....ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY XIM!!!
     
  25. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Local governance is rather problematic in an era of war, alien invasion and crisis which the post Endor era was basically until 45 ABY in which things seemed to have become somewhat stable and then things flared up again 82 years later.