The Mandalorian The Mandalorian 1.05-Chapter 5-Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

OK, now, are you done complaining about other people liking something you don’t? If so, we can move onto other topics.

 

Ha! That actually would’ve been good casting.

 

Yes if they wanted to triple the budget. The question is why is his face there in the credits (Its not a fan edit right?)

 

Artist probably thought "hey..that character description sounds like Orlando Bloom....I'll just use his face."

 

Concept artist sometimes use the faces of real actors, particularly in late-stage art that’s used to help communicate about the kind of actor that might fit the role. The naive-yet-arrogant air of Orlando Bloom makes sense in that context.

And...maybe they even considering bringing him on? I doubt that, but it’s possible.

 

Considering how popular Star Wars is...there might be a lot of big names willing to 'slum' for a bit part like this just to be in Star Wars.

 

I agree, what gives me some hope is what we saw of the unfinished Boba/Cad arc from TCW. Filoni seems to get the character, and he did a great job with Maul, so hopefully this will be good too. If we get the unprofessional loudmouth Fett that showed up in the marvel comics it’s a hard pass for me.

 

Just wanted to say, I absolutely loved that bug-thing in the cantina.

 

I don’t care either way if they make Fett a Mandalorian or not. I do want a new portrayal of him. Weather that means helping the Mando I don’t know but I want something new.

 

This kind of character was very common in westerns. More, recently in The Unforgiven it was a newbie, who had no ability with guns or bount hunting, who took out of retirement Clint Eastwood's character for one last job . I heard also the plot was similar to many John Wayne movies. This is what the show, an western in space.

 

This show, like Star Wars, is melodrama. The characters aren't exactly subtle in Star Wars. And that's okay since they work as characters in myths. What's facinating is how on repeat viewing the movies and TV shows show a great depth to the story and characters. Still on first pass they're design as entertainment which is mostly fun.

I think you got the kid's motives. The kid took a gamble that the Mandarlian wouldn't back out because he was hard up for money and this was likely the only big bounty left in the area. I doubt the Mandalorian would have stiffed the kid. The meet me in 30 minutes thing would probably have given Mando enough head start that the kid would never catch up if he'd taken off with the tracker. Also the Mandalorian really did need a second person to bring in Fennec.

That would be great casting. I think Orlando is a bit too old currently for Toro but would have been a great choice 10 years ago. They went with cocky jerk from the get go on Toro, but they could have made him seem more balanced to start with. I could see Orlando doing that but I like how they did it. It makes the message much clearer and he's less a secret sociopath. I felt like Toro did the bad things he did because he expected the world to do them to him. So he wanted to shoot first, even when he didn't need to.

I'm sure this is just concept art based on the idea Toro would be played by an 'young Orlando Bloom type' actor. Like concept art of Ep.1 Anakin clearly based on young William Wallace from Braveheart. But could this hint at Bloom actually actually appearing on the Mandalorian? Probably not, but we have no idea what actors will show up next. If Baby Yoda was kept under wraps who else could be in this show.

And you know who'd be about the right age to play Boba Fett in this time period? Orlando Bloom.

Star Wars movies are like foreign films shot in a different galaxy. We wouldn't get a tutorial on how cell phones work in a contemporary movie. But if you never saw a cell phone before you'd have all kinds of questions. My take on the tracker is if you and I lived in the Galaxy Far Far Away we'd understand exactly what those are and how they work. Hence there is no need to explain it.

It's also like the tricorder on Star Trek. They can do anything the story needs. It's never described how they work, they just do. That's fobs. If it's a deal breaker, then maybe this show isn't for you. This is how the genre works.

 

The Boba Fett that was randomly in denial about being a clone, lost the Jango's helmet and ship, had to rely on the charity of Hondo to acquire a new Slave I and was carried through his early career by Bossk was far worse then anything the comics did.

 

According to this adjusted photo it may actually just be Mando going back to collect the bounty. That raises a few questions -

1. Why shoot and cut it that way if it was just going to be Mando? Really odd editing choice.

2. Earlier in the episode he mentioned she was no use of dead which implies whatever bounties on Fennec were for her to be alive - so why go back? Is she not actually dead?

Yeah I’m not sure. Those adjusted photos do seem to imply it’s Mando but doesn’t really make sense for him to go back for her when he could’ve just thrown her over the Dewback.

If it turns out to be Mando then it’s just a bad editing choice and a somewhat oversight given the “show but don’t show new bad guy right at the end” trope.

 

I agree they were bad, but what they showed with the canceled arc at least made it seem they understood where he needed to end up.

The comic I’m referring too was the newer Disney marvel comic, that and the short story in the a certain point of view collection portray him as a hotheaded and incompetent loudmouth in the OT setting, which I really really hope isn’t where they are going with him for this.

 

while at first I Was like "okay, sure, Tatoonie and Mos Eisley everyone goes there why not" I came to like it more and more just for how the Tatooine details were all there but it wasn't like just fan service-y, they were actually naturally there.

Basically I got over it once I saw Pit droids. And I didn't notice until I saw it pointed out but the droids are now behind the bar at the cantina instead of being thrown out. And Tusken negotiations were actually really fun.

So at the end, I totally thought Boba Fett too. But then pointed out it could be Cad Bane (it is Dave Filoni after all) and that would make more sense for the plot cuz when are they ever going back to Tatooine again? Or the Imperial Governor baddie showing up soon is a good guess, also plot relevant. But I do like the notion that Boba has just been wandering the desert for 5 years hanging out with Jawas and Tusken Raiders.

The most Dave Filoni style moment I think happens at the beginning in the shoot out with "That's my line" and the cut to zoom in and explosion, that felt very much like stuff he did on Clone Wars.

 

That's right. And the kid in Unforgiven had terrible vision - couldn't see well far away - his bravado was in part to compensate for that weakness.

I'm trying to remeber if there is a character like this in 3:10 to Yuma. Lots of John Wayne films have this. Surprising how many variations there can be on him. Sometimes he's like a sidekick to Wayne and could be used to represent the culture gap in the 1960s as the kid and Wayne clash at first and through shared experience find common ground. Other times the kid is like the one we got here. A hot head not long for this world.

What? The Clone Wars Boba Fett was fantastic. Aurra Sing is who carried Boba at the start of his career. She was hoping to bring up a new Jango Fett for her own interests. She was pushing Boba to meet that destiny. The first big lesson was taking out Mace Windu for revenge. After sinking a Star Destoryer, they end up capturing a Republic Officer and some clones. Aurra wanted Boba to prove himself by executing a Jango clone. Think of the implications. Think about that situation. It's one of the most messed up stories in Star Wars.

Hondo was a friend of Jango Fett. He helps Boba by enabling the Jedi to capture the young Fett alive. When that story is over Hondo salvages Slave One as his own.

After a prison break Bossk actually works for a young Boba Fett. Partly because of their prison time, partly on the reputation of Jango Fett. Boba starts up a small gang of bounty hunters that largely operates out of the Mos Eisley Cantina. (A direct connection to Mandalorian Chapter 5) Asajj Ventress up ends on this team. They go on a mission that turns out they're the bad guys. Asajj makes things right and even though Boba plays the fool in the end, Asajj still gets Boba and his team their big payday before she heads off.

Not sure if Boba was there, but at some point Ventress and some of Boba's gang would have attempted to capture Count Dooku and maybe Vos. They fair better than expected. This was covered in a book based on unproduced Clone Wars scripts.

There was at least one more Boba Fett story we never saw. (not sure if it's before or after the Dooku job.) The one where Boba would have come into his own and had a show down with Cad Bane. It's my understanding Bane did not survive the story.

 

WOW!!!!!! DID YOU JUST FIGURE IT OUT!?!?!?!?!? Good call!!!

Fennec mentioned meeting a contact in Mos Espa and something being worth double the price on her head. The Mandalorian needs money and a way out of his current predicament. Is he looking for a big job? Did he go back to her body to find clues about what she was doing on Tatooine? Is he going to Mos Epsa next week to meet her contact? Will he take Fennec's place on a team of bounty hunters, smugglers, and bandits pulling a job? Is this going to be similar to how Han and Chewie got a spot on the Coaxium heist? Or how Assajj Ventress joined Boba Fett's gang of bounty hunters on The Clone Wars????

Is the job worth so much the other members won't try and collect the bounty on the Mandalorian? Well not until the job is done.

 

I think they just had Pedro shoot the scene in his armor and dubbed in the spurs and tracking sfx to imply that it was Boba.

 

Finally got to watch this episode, and it was definitely an improvement over the debacle that was EP 4. Still felt a little bit like filler, but I was entertained nonetheless. I’ll also never complain about being on Tatooine. I also am a little confused on what exactly the story of this season is, hopefully the next three episodes can clear it up. Filoni did better with this than the poor EP 1.

My rankings would probably be:
1: 5.5/10
2. 7/10
3. 9/10
4. 3/10
5. 7/10.

Excited for Ep 6 after that cliffhanger!

 

That seems like a bait and switch though and rather pointless.

Can’t take credit it was posted on reddit and even then I’m not sure who did the actual edit.

 

Not according to George.

 

Who do you think it's supposed to be? Boba Fett and they are using the Mandalorian suit to stand in for him? Or The Mandalorian with Boba Fett sound effects as misdirect / tease for next weeks story? (which means Chapter 6 directly continues from Chapter 5)

 

Of the most casual Star Wars fans of my friends who enjoyed the first 3 episodes the 4th was so bad to him that he nearly abandoned the show. He said that in this era of TV he doesn’t have time for shows that feel like low grade cable TV fantasy (he’s not big into nerd culture). I told him Epsiode 5 was a bounce back and he said barely. If he’s any indicator Episode 6 needs a hook big or it will start loosing casuals.