The Matrix Can Never Be the New Star Wars

I am really getting tired of people saying that the Matrix is the next Star Wars. Uh, no. A popular series no doubt, but it's still a very dark, violent R rated saga that dosen't draw anywhere near the age group that SW does.

It also features Keanu Reeves in a starring role. A man who was once outacted by both Dennis Hopper AND Sandra Bullock.

 

I've seen the first matrix once, I'd give it a star an half for attempting to make something that resembled a movie and I have no desire to go to see the second cause it just looks blah to me. People talk about SW using too much speical effects and not story they should look at the Matrix. CGI overload and what is this movie about I forgot ?

 

The Matrix is also Science Fiction. Star Wars is not. Don't get me wrong, I love SW & Sci-Fi, and Star Wars has a lot of Sci-Fi things, but it's not sci fi. Space Opera is the real term. In order for it to be science fiction, you have to have real science behind it, like computers taking over the world.

 

Alright- first off I am a diehard SW fan. The films are my favorites of all films. However much I love the SW universe, I usually give big budget films a chance before deciding if I like them or not. I didn't see "The Matrix" in the theater because I thought it looked lame. Then a friend forced me to watch it on tape. I fell in love with the film immediately. I am ssooooo psyched and anxious to see the next 2 installments

Space Opera is a good term for the SW saga- but the story arc in the SW films is richly steeped in mythology and has more elements of Fantasy than true Science-Fiction.

"The Matrix" is Sci-Fi oriented. However, it does have elements to it that push the film beyond being just a run of the mill sci-fi flick. There are definite parts of the story that are connected in mythology. Neo's quest to find out what the Matrix is, and his journey to discover his own destiny are very reminiscent of Luke's quest for his father, the Force, and discovering his own destiny of being a Jedi.

"The Matrix" films are one of the only other sagas out there that I think that deserve to be considered great pop-culture films. Why? Because the core of the story is about self-discovery (Neo) and man's attempt to triumph over machines.

Are critics out there yowling that "The Matrix" is better than SW? Is that why you created this thread? Since when should any SW fan ever listen to critics? Most Matrix fans are SW fans as well. Personally, I'm delighted to have this year chocked full of great, entertaining films to help tide me over until 2005- when I guarantee I'll be bawling my eyes out over Ep 3 and the final end to SW

"The Matrix" isn't the same as SW for grandness and richness in story- but I really love the story. In the end, all of this worrying won't matter. For in 20 years, SW will still be the only saga that will truly be remembered and loved, simply because it has the unique ability to capture the heart and wonder of children worldwide. The SW saga will live on as the films are passed on from generation to generation.

So worry not JediDugan

 

The matrix is more like the new terminator, or the new blade runner.

X-men, Harry Potter and LOTR are more like the new SW IMHO

 

I don't think anything is really 'like' star wars in many ways.

 

I think that the stories and the past life of both Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter are very similar. They are both taken off to learn magic, defeat evil, living with aunt and uncle etc.
LOTR is quite draws on mythology in the same way that SW does.
I'm really looking forward to The Matrix 2. Apparantly it has the mother of all car chases.
And is The Return of the King gonna be good or what? So much to look forward to atthe end of the year with LOTR 3 and Rogue Squadron 3 on GC.

 

Nothing is the "new Star Wars".

My friend tried to say that LOTR is to the young generation today what SW was in 1977. Which there is no evidence of.
No film can beat what Star Wars did in 1977 and has done ever since.

The Matrix for all its darkness, crisp look and special effects (notice I don't say good before it), is very hollow in terms of story and any other element you can equate to film.
I didn't like it to be honest and I wont see the other 2 because I can't be excited by something which seems very hollow to me.

LOTR I wanted to see, when I did I was severely disappointed, especially with T2T

X-Men Duology - now thats great entertainment, not upto Star Wars standard, but still a great piece of cinema and it was fun.

So unlike what PadmeLeiaJaina was accusing the author of this thread (and possibly others) of, is utter rubbish. We all see these films in different light. Some will like them all, others will stick to Star Wars, and still others will have a selection from them that they like.

But to suggest that The Matrix could be the new Star Wars as I have heard from an ignorant few, is way off the mark.
Like most things The Matrix and its sequels will be fads. Only the internet geeks, ironically us lot, will really remember it.

Nothing will beat the timelessness of the Star Wars saga. At least not to me.

 

I'm not accusing anyone of anything Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I did reword my post above as it did seem like I was getting defensive or something.

All I was trying to point out is that I personally found there to be richer tones to "The Matrix" films than many people care to see. I don't see the first film as hollow, or w/o soul- it might seem like that is the case because Keanu doesn't emote very well on screen. But I personally think the story is wonderfully developed in the first film, as much of it actually did not contain action. Much of the first film deals w/ Neo understanding his place on his hero's journey.

As much as I enjoy the Matrix films, I too believe that 20 years from now they won't be remembered for much more than breaking CGI barriers.

 

I'm not accusing anyone of anything Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I did reword my post above as it did seem like I was getting defensive or something.

My bad PLJ I was kinda defensive in my post, my apologies.

 

Oh guys, give it a rest already. Of course the Matrix will be the next Star Wars!

Within a few years, Matrix 3: Return of the Humans will hit the theatres, and Darth Va- I mean the most evil machine out there is suddenly going to turn back into a Jed- I mean human and kill the Empero- I mean destroy the biggest machine.

Then it will generate millions of dollars in toy sales, change the very way we view movies, create a mulitmedia empire, gain a fanbase of kajillions, and spawn a huge collection of novels, games, comic-books, and storybooks.

Then, within 20 years, the Matrix .3333: The Phantom Computer will hit theaters as a prequel, giving way to Matrix .6666: Attack of the Machines and finally concluded in Matrix .9999: Cheesy Star Wars Ripoff Title.

This will then create an entirely new fanbase to add on to the other, and books and games will continue to hit the shelves. There will even be an entire series of about 19 novels set around two decades after Matrix 3, called the New Human Order.



Just think- in a few years we'll all be posting at the Matrix.net.







Ken Kenobi- And you have a nice day

 

(Shaking head at Ken Kenobi)

Burtola

No worries

 

I like Star Wars. I like the Matrix.
But, I know how to tell them apart.

 

You know what I hate, Jedi Dugan?

When people get genuinely upset because of something said about Star Wars.

As if what this person said would cause every sinlge copy of every sinlge Star Wars movie on the planet to turn to dust.

Is it not possible to like what you like, and NOT CARE what someone else thinks?

The Matrix can never be the new Star Wars? never has a thread been more lock worthy.

 

nothing will ever replace stawars no matter how good but the matrix could become very famous like starwars and thats about it.

 

Nothing's gonna be the 'new' Star Wars, same as nothing is ever gonna be the 'new' Matrix or whatever.

The media likes competition, but it doesn't make any difference. A film's a film, it doesn't have to be a 'new' version of something to be any good or not.

 

What people mean is that it fills the role that SW filled in the 1970s/1980s. It fills the void left by SWs absence.

 

X-men, Harry Potter and LOTR are more like the new SW IMHO


None of those are orginal movies, meaning they are all based on something...im just pointing that out not disagreeing

My feeling is that nothing can come close enough to be rightfully referred to as "The new star wars" without being labeled a "Rip off" which is would probably have to be.

 

I like Star Wars. I like the Matrix.
But, I know how to tell them apart.

Exactly.