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The Movie and Television Character Draft 2: Census and Games' Bogus Journey [Shadow_of_Durron wins!]

Discussion in 'Archive: Census and Games' started by DarthIntegral, Apr 20, 2007.

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  1. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    Honestly, I think Lore (or Data) could take this. It might be possible if he were to cook up some sort of odd device that disrupts or even reverses the specific energy signature of Conner's dino gem, reverting him back to a normal guy, or, you know, whatever. I mean, they do that kind of crap all the time on the show, and it's usually Data (or Geordi) that ends up making those devices.

    Here's the problem, though: That kind of information is just way too damn specific to be included in a "prep file", or whatever you want to call it. It's not going say...

    Name: Conner McKnight, Red Dino Ranger

    Abilities: Can lift this much, is this fast, durable to the amount of, blah, blah

    Energy signature for the dino gem that fuels his powers: 0.224.111785.002Z

    Hobbies: Soccer, pornography


    Or what have you. That kind of info is just way too specific, and there's really no way for Lore to get that kind of info without actually getting his hands on a dino gem to study first hand. And that ain't happening.

    And short of that, I don't see anything else really working. I think Lore could give him a lot of trouble, but beat him? Nah, no way.
     
  2. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    I'd be happy to judge mythology right now.
     
  3. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    Connor McKnight (Power Rangers) vs. Lore (Star Trek) (Prepared)

    Yeah, I don't buy any reversing going on here. Lore could take an early advantage, but it'll quickly be negated by Conner's massive speed and skill advantages. Could be interesting for a little while, and then Conner will power up and it'll end.

    Winner: Conner

    Adam (Buffy) (Prepared) vs.Michael Corvin (Underworld)


    Michael's got the speed advantage, and I suppose skill as well, but Adam's definitely got overall power. By a fairly wide margin. The prep doesn't do much for him except for giving him that opening advantage, but I highly doubt he'll relinquish that.

    Winner: Adam
     
  4. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    I'm surprised by that last one. I thought Adam wasn't very fast at all and that Corvin could survive any initial attacks.
     
  5. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Guess I'll agree with Zizz. not really sure on either one, but there doesn't seem to be any debate/arguments coming, so why not? His logic seemed reasonable enough to me.

    <h1>Semifinals!</h1>

    (1) Captain Tenneal and the Dream Warriors (2) vs. (4)The Rainbow Moon Pink Sugar Heart Aches (1)
    (3) Villainous Maximus (2) vs.(2) Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals (1)

    WUN

    Cam Wattanabe (Power Rangers) (Prepared) vs. Gozer (Ghostbusters) (Prepared)
    Predator (Predator) (Prepared) vs.Dash TRUMPED with Violet (The Incredibles)
     
  6. Fenrisulfr

    Fenrisulfr Jedi Youngling

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    Random: been watching the new series and reading up on some stuff...how the hell did no one pick The Doctor?

    That is all.
     
  7. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    I can wait until tomorrow for some arguments, but these aren't too difficult.
     
  8. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    I suppose I can go ahead and put something up here.

    Let's see... well, this is interesting:

    Like his fellow ninja, Shane possesses superhuman speed and can move faster than the eye can see, leap higher than an average person, evade detection by normal persons and focus his inner energies to resist mental attacks and manipulation.

    Bit different than the Dino Thunder method, which is that they're just, like, magically protected because of their powers. Nope, the Ninja Storm boys and girls actually train for that sort of thing.

    And knowing the basics of how Gozer works, this is a huge advanatge to Cam. Because we don't want him to be unable to give Gozer a some very specific recommendations on what she should turn into. [face_mischief] Nope, but it is good that he would have superb and precise control over what comes into his mind at this start of the match. Because now he has 24 hours to come up with an exact form for Gozer that he can take extreme advantage of. I don't want to use what we saw in the movie, but honestly, Stay Puft would be just fine. Clunky, slow, and most importantly, very, very meltable.

    But just for the sake of variety, howsa about Hubba or Bubba? A giant piece of gum. That oughtta work.

    Cam's got the speed and agility to keep his distance for, like, forever, and then he can just pummel his giant friend over and over and over and over with something like the Red Storm Stiker that he created, which fires some nice-sized fireball blasts. Cam's smarter than the Ghostbusters, faster, stronger and more durable than them, and he's got much better equipment to work with.
     
  9. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    I just want to make sure, because I haven't seen the movie and I haven't found any clips on Youtube. Can Gozer go intangible or not?
     
  10. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Gozer's dogs went intangible, I Don't recall Gozer ever actually doing it. "Teleporting", invisible-voice thing, but I don't recall seeing Gozer actually walking through something.

    And I don't think it matters what Cam's intentions are, I don't think he can predict what Gozer would transform into, depending on what kind of a thought he fed her, or didn't give her, as the case may be with his training. Ray thought they'd be fighting a harmless little stay puft man, and that didn't turn out so hot. Any info he could find on it would be about the same as the Ghostbuster's found, wouldn't it? Would he be able to know about what happened on the roof there? The Ghostbusters sure didn't, and they were the experts. Cam obviously has better research tools, so I'm not sure.
     
  11. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    Would he not at least know the basics of the confrontation Gozer had with the Ghostbusters?

    Even something like, "Gozer reads the minds of his/her opponents and can transform into a giant-sized version of whatever image is in their minds. S/he became a giant marshmallow man and was destroyed by the Ghostbusters." would be more than enough. That's hardly too specific, but it still says quite a bit.

    And Ray was quaking in his boots and kinda "on the spot", as they say. Cam has 24 hours to think it over and come up with something perfect. Hell, Stay Puft probably would be perfect. I just mentioned something else for the sake of just not copying the movie. Stay Puft is big, slow and there's no way Cam ever gets hit or stepped on unless he allows it to happen. He's that much faster.
     
  12. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    Damn, I've been judging Gozer as intangible this entire draft. I went back and read the arguments last draft, specifically the team battle between Despised and EF, and nowhere did anyone say D1 was wrong about Gozer not being able to go intangible. At least, not from what I remember.
     
  13. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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  14. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Nah. Just that time squashed.

    I think Cam uses his prep time better, and gets a very close win. I'm not sure Gozer uses prep time as efficiently, or has as much versatility coming from it.

    I also like the Trump. Predator might get an opening shot or two in, but if that doesn't kill them, he'll be in trouble. Both have amazing defensive techniques, and can avoid danger for long enough periods of time to find their opening.
     
  15. Aragorn327

    Aragorn327 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Agreed on the Gozer match.

    However, I have to hand the second match to the Predator. The trump hasn't been using their powers for the majority of their lives--while they did great with them in the movie, they're still fairly inexperienced when opposing the hunter. With the prep, I think that his initial attack is enough to take one of them out, and while the fight after that'll be long, I see him eventually taking it.
     
  16. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Eh...Eh...I really hate to come in off the bench like this since I haven't been reading the judgements since I left, but my respect for Predator is incredibly(pun lol) low. I've only ever seen the first one, and I am under the assumption that this is the character we are judging for Predator. Yeah, I've seen the arguments for his other equipment, but none of that really helps him more. The one thing he has going for him(Because, really, that plasma cannon? Slow as molasses) is the fact that, while two people can go invisible in this match, only one can see the other one while they're invisible. But there's also the fact that, with her shield up, there's nothing he can get through to her. To me, this is cohesion vs. prep, and I like their cohesion a lot better than his prep, since I consider him to be so in his movie, and the only extra bonus he has is info on his opponent. I don't like his odds on beating them in the first surprise shot(especially when you consider their super suits). So I'd go Trump.
     
  17. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    <h1>Semifinals!</h1>

    (1) Captain Tenneal and the Dream Warriors (3) vs. (4)The Rainbow Moon Pink Sugar Heart Aches (1)
    (3) Villainous Maximus (2) vs.(2) Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals (2)

    Six

    Frozone (The Incredibles) (forfeit) vs. The Tall Man (Phantasm)
    Space Godzilla vs.Tron (Tron) (Prepared)


    I don't think many people give Tron as much love as I do, but he ain't winning this match. So we'll just move on ...


    (1) Captain Tenneal and the Dream Warriors (3) vs. (4)The Rainbow Moon Pink Sugar Heart Aches (2)
    (3) Villainous Maximus (3) vs.(2) Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals (2)

    Three

    Trent Mercer (Power Rangers) vs. Marcus Hamilton (Angel) TRUMPED with T-1000 (Terminator Series)
    Lightning (Big Trouble in Little China) vs.Violet (A not-so Incredible Forfeit)

     
  18. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    Huzzah! [face_dancing]

    Gotta love a team that goes into the semi-finals even when the GM is never around to drop some arguments, though maybe I should send in a new set of #'s just in case I actually get into the finals. :p

    I am rather surprised that nobody realized that I have been using the same set of #'s for the past 2 1/2 - 3 months, kinda figured someone would realize that and completely destroy my team. :D
     
  19. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Seems to me Trent has a huge speed advantage, and since I don't really know Hamilton too well, I'd say power is on Trent's side as well, since he seems to be at least in the same league as suped up Conner, as far as I can tell. But I did miss a bit of arguing, so I may have missed some info.

    Trtent
     
  20. BartSimpson-SithLord

    BartSimpson-SithLord Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've been far too busy/distracted to notice such things.
     
  21. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    anything at all from either side on this match?
     
  22. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    You're just hoping, wishing, wanting, desiring there to be an argument against a powah ranger, lol.
     
  23. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    yes


    and your point?
     
  24. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    I like you inty.
     
  25. DarthIntegral

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