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the Obi-wan mystery revealed. there is another obi-wan.. his clone.

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by homeless_jedi, Nov 26, 2002.

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  1. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    CarbonKnight maybe you can answer this for me. Why does eer person know need a clone?
    It makes no sense to me. He has a good theroy.

    Again all I want to know is why ever one in the GFFA needs a clone.
     
  2. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Well the only people in EU that I know have clones are Palpatine and Luke, and those particular clone stories make me loathe EU... but hey, this theory suprisingly makes sense, and while I'm completely unsure as to whether or not it will be revealed as the truth, I will still pay attention to it.

    Plus, seeing Obi-Wan and a clone go at it with lightsabers would be really really cool to see in Episode 3!!! :D
     
  3. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    I Guess. But I just don't think it would work out that well.

    A) Because you need to get some of his DNA to do it. B) Why why clones of Jango then? Why not just have Jedi clones?

    Also I don't liek the clone Palpatine or Luke so much ether.
     
  4. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    A) Because you need to get some of his DNA to do it. B) Why why clones of Jango then? Why not just have Jedi clones?

    Well, remember when Qui-Gon takes Anakin's blood? Well, I'm sure Obi-Wan had his midi's tested as well at some point, and would probably have it on file in the Jedi Archives.... which Sifo-Dyas would have full access to...

    Problem with the theory: Who cloned Obi-Wan? If it was the Kaminoans they wouldn't know who was the clone...

    Lama Su.... Usama L!!!!! USAMA Bin Laden!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG! kthxbye
     
  5. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    I could also see Obi-wan face.

    Obi-wan: There clones of me. Again agree with you it's a good theroy. There are just a lot of other thing that you have to think about when looking at it.
     
  6. Green_Destiny_Sword

    Green_Destiny_Sword Force Ghost star 5

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    Does this guy (Homeless) have any credibility left??

    But just for arguments sake....

    Isn't all of this "theory" assuming that obi wan doesn't know he has a clone????

    I mean, if he knew he was cloned and this Obi clone was freely travelling around the galaxy, why would Obi be surprised that people mistake him for his clone??? It should make sense to him that lama su thinks she/he knows him. And who clones him?? Obviously not the Kaminoans, or else Obi would already know about Kamino and would not need the detective work. And even when Dex said the Kaminoans were cloners, Obi seemed completely unfamiliar with the cloning process.

    And whatever happens to the clone? Sure could have used him in the OT.
     
  7. Aprentize

    Aprentize Jedi Master star 4

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    LOL @ CarbonKnight!!

    i think this whole business is cool food for thought, but absolutely not true.
     
  8. Jedi_Learner

    Jedi_Learner Jedi Knight star 5

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    And his clone would never be mentioned in the Classic Trilogy? Nice theory and discussion, but I don't believe it until I see it. :)
     
  9. Plo_Koen

    Plo_Koen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Anyhooo...

    If this is a major plotpoint for episode III, I think this belongs in the "Episode III (Non-Sanity)" forum.

    You don't want to spoil harmless souls, do you?

     
  10. Darth-Schwartz

    Darth-Schwartz Jedi Master star 4

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    i still say the kaminoians mistook obi-wan for the description of gui-gon they got.
     
  11. homeless_jedi

    homeless_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    i know its hard to believe. but you really cant argue with this. and i thank carbon and ani for their agreement...its something to think about..that really makes complete sense..and i dont think anyone can prove me wrong..but nice try..to those who have tried..

    and im not saying the kamioans created the obi clone..im saying darth tyranus or sidious created him to use him..to make the orders with syfo dyas. they needed someone from the council to approve it someone special..and who better than obi wan..


    or obi-one. and obi-two..



     
  12. Darth Geist

    Darth Geist Jedi Master star 5

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    What's with your obsession with clones, homeless? "Obi is a clone." "Anakin and Luke are clones." "People in real life are clones." "Mace is Lando's dad."

    If you're gonna argue in favor of any of these, the burden of proof is on you.
     
  13. OnlyOneKenobi

    OnlyOneKenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    lol... 10 years before Obi-Wan was either still a padawan, or a freshly knighted Jedi. He would have been in no position to place an order for a clone army. And the Kaminoans aren't stupid, I'm sure someone of reasonable authority and good financial backing had to place an order like that. Obi-Wan doesn't strike me as a millionaire Jedi.
     
  14. homeless_jedi

    homeless_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    DG ...said.

    What's with your obsession with clones, homeless?

    [face_laugh]

    well the movie is called "attack of the clones"..all star wars is about clones..isint that obvious to anyone?

    the clone wars ring a bell?

    and that is because i know lucas work..he has this idea about cloning.his belief is that cloning will be the future and that it will destroy our society..if you watch some of his early work.. THX 1138..it is pretty much based on how all humans are so similar..almost treated like clones...therefore it shows in his work..

    someone in the OT is a clone..and i do believe it is luke and obi wan..and sidious could also be a clone..why not..heck all the stormtroopers are clones..why not the jedi or someone else in the galaxy..

    let me ask you this..what would you have told me..if i had told you this..lets say ten years ago


    "boba fett is a clone"

    im sure you would have laughed in my face dg.
     
  15. CarbonKnight

    CarbonKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Hey remember on Kamino Obi-Wan says "When my master first contacted you did he say who the army was for?" Notice the word Master. I can understand him and Anakin calling Yoda and Mace masters, but why Sifo Dyas? Maybe Sifo Dyas really is Qui-Gon maybe just another name? "Sifo-Dyas died over ten years ago"... but then again Lama Su (Usama Bin Laden) says "Sifo-Dyas is still a leading member of the Jedi COuncil is he not?" And Qui-Gon wasn't a member of the council.
     
  16. Darth Geist

    Darth Geist Jedi Master star 5

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    "let me ask you this..what would you have told me..if i had told you this..lets say ten years ago


    "boba fett is a clone"

    im sure you would have laughed in my face dg."

    There's a difference between speculation, as that would have been, and throwing out one unfounded theory after another and insisting they're all fact.

    Unless you can convince me that you know George personally (Supershadow, anyone?), then you're just another fan, however hardcore you may see yourself, and your guess as to what happens next is just that; a wild guess.
     
  17. Spike_Spiegel

    Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree.




    See you Space Cowboy. . .
     
  18. Aurasingstheblues

    Aurasingstheblues Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What purpose would a clone of Obi-Wan serve to the story GL is trying to tell? Homeless Jedi, I think you may have a little too much free time on your hands.
     
  19. Darth Geist

    Darth Geist Jedi Master star 5

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    "What purpose would a clone of Obi-Wan serve to the story GL is trying to tell?"

    Exactly. He's got one movie left, loads of loose ends to tie up; do you think he's going to throw in this whole new subplot just for the hell of it? That would only take time away from the story he needs to tell.
     
  20. Fanboy_Solo

    Fanboy_Solo Jedi Youngling star 4

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    What a larf, the same topic came about in 1998 when some thought Obi-Wan was cloned to make Darth Maul.
     
  21. homeless_jedi

    homeless_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    and this would also explain who erased the archives in the jedi council,,it was obi-wan's clone..it would be easier for the clone to do that..than count dooku. he would be able to infiltrate the jedi library.unnoticed!
     
  22. Meridian_Antilles

    Meridian_Antilles Jedi Youngling

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    I can understand him and Anakin calling Yoda and Mace masters, but why Sifo Dyas?

    Because Sifo-Dyas really was a Jedi Master, just like Yoda and Mace still are.
     
  23. doctorfunk_15

    doctorfunk_15 Jedi Youngling

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    At first I didn't believe this but the more I think about it the more it may be possible. Have you ever seen a cloan's dead body? No because they're all wearing body suits and they don't die they just dissappear like Obi Wan's clone did in ANH. Actually this is pretty far fetched but just a thought.
     
  24. MasterJedi_Adam

    MasterJedi_Adam Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You all are CLONE HAPPY.. Ther is no Kenobi clone..

    When he was introduced to the Prime minester on Kamino. He was introduces as Jedi Master ______ he had to finsh the sentance.. They did not know his name..

    NOT EVERYONE HAS BEN CLONED OR WILL BE CLONED.. THE ONLY CLONES ARE OF JANGO AND GREEDO :)
     
  25. Fanboy_Solo

    Fanboy_Solo Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I think your definition of clone is really out of whack, especially according to your other threads. Believe it or not, Clones are not the major part of the saga. You try to fill plot points you do not understand by throwing a clone, and using reasoning which really do not prove anything.
     
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