The Official Alpha, the ARC Troopers and the Commandos Thread

Yeah, because logically, there would be a couple more ARC Troopers that were on the transport that were killed, maybe even a couple more deployed there.

 

This isn't really SW or ARC related, but let me get through it cause it seemed to me it really fit in this thread better than any other or even starting a new thread. I just picked up one of the books in the Stephen Coonts edited series Victory, particulary Call to Arms as the carrier really caught my attention and the synopsises on the back fueled it even more. In particular was the David Hagberg story V5, which is kinda a spy/commando WWII story and the first one I started on. Story's about a Allied commando mission to take out supposed German V5 missiles, three-stage beauties which could reach the US and would carry anthrax as their payload. Really good story so far, but as I was reading last night, something really caught my attention and made me think of this thread. The commando team is an eight man team, and to get them into Germany, they planned to fly them in using a Lancaster bomber.

The final plan had the bomb group their Lancaster was a part of had the group bomb the area they were going into as a diversion while their bomber dropped down to under a thousand feet so they could parachute in. But it was the original plan that really caught my attention. Their Lancaster was originally to split off from the main group so they could parachute in on their target while the main group was to go on to Berlin. When I read that, I couldn't help but think of the ARCs mission on Muunilist.

 

Very interesting idea.

Another similarity that I noticed between the ARCs and Real Life is their function as commandos. At first, we're led to believe that the ARCs are combat only. Now in Cestus, we find that their role is very similar to the Green Beres (sp?), in that they train locals to do the fighting to suppliment their roles.

 

It hasn't been done, yes---but how and when will clones go mad, falling into the reputable clone madness we've all heard about?

Will a revolutionary idea start at some point, where they don't want to be third-class in their peers' eyes anymore, come into conflict with their DNA tampering, and fighting internal conflicts all the way?

 

Clone maddness was due to accelerated growth in Spaarti Cylinders within a Force rich enviroment. The DE sourcebook says something about it being best to take a full year to grow a Spaarti clone as under a year Spaarti clones run the risk of clone maddness. And the risk increases the quicker it takes to grow them. Kamino clones grow at a slower rate than Spaarti clones, taking them ten years to reach the equivalent of a twenty year old human.

 

I know. But characters talked about that in the Thrawn Trilogy, which means this clone madness occurred in the CW---now, or at some stage, in some quantity.

 

Wasn't there a short story in an issue or two of Insider which dealt with a mission to deal with Spaarti cylinders. Thought I read on here someone said most were destroyed, yet we know a number survived as they showed up in TTT and DE. Some extras could have been made after this during the Clone Wars to turn out Spaarti Clones during the Clone Wars and these were the ones who went mad.

 

Any idea how many Spaarti cylinders there were at the end of that story or how many Spaarti clones were turned out total and how quickly they had been grown? We know the faster a Spaarti clone is grown the more likely it is their going to go insane,i.e. clone maddness. But we don't know how long it really takes for them to start showing signs of clone maddness. Judging from what the DE sourcebook has to say about Joruus C'boath, we can guess that he must have already been showing such signs the last time Palpatine saw him. Though, as far as I'm aware, we don't know when he was "born", so we can't use him to judge how long it takes for clone maddness to set in.

 

Hero of Cartao, a pretty good trilogy of short stories. The Clone Madness isn't touched on, but then again, no clones were grown. I believe they rescued several hundred of them.

 

You say there were 4 blue ARCs on Muunilinst. I count 5.

There is the one leading the SPAH-T seen in Chapter 4.
And there is 4 with the main group. Yes, FOUR! We only see three for most of Chapter 3, but look at the part where they are blowing up the gun at the base of the tower. One sticks his thumb up, then the camera zooms out and we see three more ARCs.

Looks like I've found another one (or I've made another mistake )

 

Looks like I've found another one (or I've made another mistake )


Or the cartoon's creators messed up...

 

I wouldn't be surprised, the Clone Wars cartoon is fully of errors.

 

Speaking of the cartoon...
Gentle Giant is making an ARC maquette

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Only $80!

 

Why isn't the chin painted? I hope that'll be done in the final model.

 

I noticed that too. However at points in the cartoon the ARC troopers are missing certain amounts of paint; one can only hope thats not true for this.

 

It's probably a mistake for that picture. If it isn't, well, you guys can color it yourselves..

 

Possibly the worst 'shopping I've done for years, but

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Looks good enough for me, Tam. Well done

 

Meh. I wish that they would do a regular ARC Trooper, not a Clone Wars series one.

 

I agree, maybe something from the "Unleashed" line. That would be cool.

Thinking about the ARCs, has anyone noticed that some of them have Jango Fett rangefinders wheras some of them have scanners over their eyes, kinda like the advanced Stormtroopers in GBG. What's the reason for this do you think, modular helmets? Maybe they can have all sorts of peripherals attatched too them.

 

An unleashed figure would be excellent to get.

Are you sure about the view finder? They can fold down.

 

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eyepatch:

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also ARCS in Rep 50, 51, 52 have the top of the rangefinder stuck onto their helmet. There's a good shot of Alpha being picked up by Durge in 52 where it's clearly only attatched to the helmet.