The Official Alpha, the ARC Troopers and the Commandos Thread

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Sorry, excited for a minute...

 

Army Green Beret, Delta Force, Navy Seals, etc?

 

The Marines have their own special ops, the Marine Recon

Marine Recon aren't part of Special Ops..

They are specialized units within the Marine organization.

The Army has Recon Scouts as well, who are attached to regular divisions..

They do pretty much what was described..

They independently travel ahead of the main body to search out any ambushes, determine enemy strength etc.. They are not designed for sustained combat..

All of the units Val just listed are Special Ops units, who are specifically part of SOCOM.. (although all those units have distinct capabilities)

 

oops... my bad..

Special Ops that I know of:

Delta Force
Rangers
SEALS
Combat Controllers
Parajumpers

 

According to Tartvsky, he considers them to ARCs to be special ops, and he gave Seals as example in one of the behind the scenes didn't he?

 

Yeah, I seem to remember that.
There are other Clone Special Ops too...

ARC Troopers
Clone Commandos

And I think that you can classify the Sea Clones as spec ops


Also: The Clone Trooper Specialties

 

"Clone Commandos"

As in the ones from Pengalen Tradeoff?

LFL has said those are ARC troopers.

Also ARC stands for Advanced Recon Clone, or Advanced Recon Commando, depending on the source.

However, one should be careful not to confuse special ops, and what may be normal forces, that have access to extra equipment, for the kind of terrain they are going into. Just because one sees a group with extra equipment doesn't neccesarily mean that they are special ops.

 

And what about the upcoming game Star Wars Republic Commando? Weren't those clonetroopers supposed to be Clone Commandos?

 

IIRC, they said at starwars.com, that ARC troopers and Clone Commandos are the same thing, and that in the upcoming game you are playing as an ARC trooper ?.

 

Also ARC stands for Advanced Recon Clone, or Advanced Recon Commando, depending on the source.

I've never heard of a source saying that ARC stood for Advanced Recon Commandoes. Where was that?

 

One of the later comics, or sourcebooks, and Tartvsky says so in the behind the scenes of the cartoon at one of the sites.

Even the official site, here, and in the databank entry.

"The ultimate in the clone trooper ranks were the Advanced Recon Commandos"-starwars.com databank

Infact, IIRC, it was only Lama Su that called them Advanced Recon Clone...

However she seems to call everything tied to the clones, "clone"... She called Jango Fett, the "Prime Clone".

 

Yeah, I wrote this a while ago...


Clone Commandos are mentioned in AOTC. One of the commanders tells Mace Windu that he has several special commando units for him.

Where did you hear that Clone Commandos are the same as ARC troopers?

 

"Where did you hear that Clone Commandos are the same as ARC troopers?"

VIP thread mentioned it specifically, it is alluded to in ARC trooper entry in the databank, when it mentions the ARC troopers actions at Pengalan IV.

"They have also served in campaigns on Muunilinst, Jabiim and Pengalan IV."-starwars.com databank

As for the commandos mentioned in AOTC, those aren't ARC troopers but rather regular ranked troopers(the ones shown with various colored armor) with sometimes more equipment than standard equipment used by troopers, IIRC. Lucas calls the ranked troopers seen in the movie, "commandos" on the DVD behind the scenes, IIRC, and those are just the ones commanding the non-ranked ones. However those aren't special forces.

 

Erm... Until I hear otherwise, I'm assuming that they're specially trained guys that are a noch below ARCs

 

The ones in Pengalan tradeoff?

As I recall, a later insider article specifically called them ARCs as well.

Anywho, as I recall what they said about the behind the scenes creation, was that allston and essentially developed the idea for what an ARC was, but at that point in time LFL hadn't defined a detailed name for them yet. The comics did that later.

 

yeah, i know about them, but the ones in the games... they have different armor than any of the clone troopers...

 

Which games(link pictures please)? Hmm, we seem to be thinking of two different things?

You mean the ones in the Commando game? Sure, we'll have to wait for more confirmation on those, on if LFL is going to tie those into ARC in a specific printed source or not...

In anycase, they apparently aren't the same thing as the Clone Commandos mentioned in AOTC, as I recall lucas applies that to the ranked clone troopers seen in the movie in the behind the scenes info on the DVD.

The particular Clone Commandos from the game are called Special Operations Commandos in the press release, IIRC.

 

Clone Commando press release (includes video footage)

 

Ya, I figured it out, I know about the design in the Commando game, I was just confused when he said "games" plural.

In anycase, I wouldn't be surprised if lucas doesn't see any difference between Arcs and the colored ranked troopers in AOTC(which he calls Commandos). Considering that he told Tartvsky to specifically put in regular troops with the ARC groups, instead of them being just small unit of ARCs.

 

There's probably a reason for that... maybe there's a smaller number of ARCs than regulars, and that ARCs are very good tacticitions and leaders. It's like using a rocket to kill a mouse to use all ARCs, although it'd be cool.

 

Well, well, I believe Ostrander, or another author described the ARCs a special operations that generally work alone in small groups.

Since normal forces would slow them down from doing their recon and special op missions.

That's the case of what happened in Pengalan right (I haven't read that yet)?

 

On a semi-related note, I bought myself a really cool ARC Trooper action figure today.

 

Like I said, IIRC, Lucas says that the ranked troopers (the troopers shown with yellow, blue, red, and green), are the Clone Commandos on the AOTC dvd in one of the behind the scenes things.

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What do they do?