The Official Alpha, the ARC Troopers and the Commandos Thread

>>>Yeah, although I'm not entirely sure why the snowtroopers have it. They have pauldrons too, don't they? <<<

Well I figure Snowtroopers had a sort of Kama/waist coat thing becuase it was cold, and it would serve the purpose of a trench coat.

Snowtrooeprs didn't have pualdrons though.

 

Just a quick question- which Commando unit is in Reversal of Fortune?

Take a look at #59.
In the 1st frame, over the right shoulder I see a number. Is that 1138 or 1158? If it's 1138, could that be a hint that it may possibly be Boss?

 

Actually, it is 1138...
But Boss looks different, and has no explosives-backpack...
Also, if you take a look at #79, the clone with the backpack as an other painting like the one in +59, so I don't think they're the same...

 

No way it's the Deltas, they're on Kashyyyk at this time.

 

Thank you both for the insight.
I'm still trying to piece together what I can.
Anyone got a place where RC info is kept? A site that might list whose who and where?

 

Tam_Elgrin posted on 5/3/05 11:06am

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No way it's the Deltas, they're on Kashyyyk at this time.
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768 days, that makes around 26 months... - how long after Zero Hour does RoF take part? 2 years? It's only very shortt before RotS, so the Deltas weren't on Kashyyyk that time...
Also it would not be correct, 'cause that time Grievous was still on Kashyyyk and couln't kidnap Palps...
So there is still a slight possibility it's Delta Squad :)

 

True, but the 26 months figure is flawed, from what I can tell. The Kashyyyk mission's supposed to lead right into RotS (well, by one or two weeks).

 

Who said this? It only begins the first invasion on Kashyyyk. What if in the movie there is the second?
And still we have that Grievous problem....

 

Just reading some backposts in this thread, I found this gem:

HanSolOKniser3 posted on 2/8/04/05 5:32am

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Has anyone else thought about the ARC troopers being "turned" into the Mandalorian Super Commandoes which fought the Jedi during the Clone Wars lore of old?


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:D

 

well, there was supposedly 212 supercommandos...now all the work by Abel aside, are there 212 ARC's?

 

Possibly. If numbers 1-100 are covered by the Alpha designation, then explain the fellow named N-11 in the Insider RC story.

 

Don't stir it up!

That had all gone quiet.

 

100 initial ARCs, and a "few dozen since".

 

<<Actually, it is 1138...
But Boss looks different, and has no explosives-backpack...
Also, if you take a look at #79, the clone with the backpack as an other painting like the one in +59, so I don't think they're the same...>>

If you are talking about Clone Commanders #1138 is Baccara (RotS VD).

 

<< 100 initial ARCs, and a "few dozen since". >>

Thanks Tam.

If I ever write Captain Ordo again, I'll explain all.

Ah, the fun of evolving continuity!

 

Kast_Morben posted on 5/4/05 1:43am

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<<[i]Actually, it is 1138...
But Boss looks different, and has no explosives-backpack...
Also, if you take a look at #79, the clone with the backpack as an other painting like the one in +59, so I don't think they're the same...[/i]>>

If you are talking about Clone Commanders #1138 is Baccara (RotS VD).
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Talkin 'bout Command[b]os[/b], not Commanders ;)
And I know, then it's Boss^^

 

Note the '1138' thing is only on the Commando's backpack; it could just be a serial number on his rocket pack or whatever. Trying to explain just how Boss could be both on Coruscant and Kashyyyk is pointless; they're two different CCs.

Oh, and we've got a new ARC-type: ARC heavy gunner, the cannon-weilding trooper in Clone Wars 21. Check the new CW avatars on the OS. There's also Clone tailgunner, clone pilot and shocktrooper.

 

Ah, cool^^

and ya right with the 1138 on backpack..

on the back of a commando you can see the last two numbers of his desig, (with Sev: 07^^), not the full numer (1207), so it was only again a 1138-easteregg I think, even if it's quite stupid to put it on a clone fourth time^^ (AotC, RC, RotS and now RoF^^)

 

Anybody knows the serial number of Commander Bly? Kinda stupid, in the illustrated screenplay, he is the only commander without his "number"...

 

Bly is CC-5052

 

Has Commander Odd Ball's designation been revealed yet? I'd hoped it would be mentioned in the new Databank update, but alas....

 

It's not Delta Squad in RoF. Delta are on Kashyyyk at that point.

I believe the RoF commandos are inspired by the Delta designs, and the artist was playing off some of those visual features.

But continuity-wise, not Delta.

Re: the kama, no definitive answer has yet been set down in the Continuity. But here's my take.

The ancient kama were made of thick leather, and designed to protect the back of a soldier's legs, where armor would impede his movement.

The kama continued to be functional and useful as the supercommandos incorporated jet-packs into their weaponry. The down-splash from a jetpack was tailored to avoid burning off a soldier's legs, but still, the occasional down-draft or unexpected movement could result in burning @$$ and that was painful and to be avoided.

Finally, the last evolution of the kama had light blaster-shielding, capable of warding off stray projectiles, and most important, hot pieces of shrapnel. The Mandalorians were more and more becoming front-line soldiers-for-hire, and found themselves leading charges across alien battlefields. Under artillery fire, they need protection for their legs from random bits of debris and shrapnel (obviously, not much can protect you from a direct hit) and the kamas worked like a charm.

So there you go.

Now, about the commandos and thongs... Karen's right. A thong would chafe.

What people don't understand is that "commando" doesn't refer to some kind of training or rank, it refers to the preferred undergarments of these highly-skilled men.

Heh.

 

And you were doing so well up to that point, Ryan...

 

marvelous explanation for the kama tradition.... as for the snowtrooper kamas - they might come in handy for camouflage (both standing and lying down) and for helping blocking the wind when squatting around a campfire or delicate equipment - and helping to keep heat in.