The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub

I noticed the name change too, don't really know why though.

I agree that Sidious wanted Anakin for his power but I find it odd that he would rather have a crippled man as his apprentice, Chosen One or not instead of corrupting another Force User. That could just be that he wasn't sure if Anakin's power level had been hurt though or the fact that it gives him greater control if he can just overload his apprentice's life support anytime he gets too rebellious.

 

Has anyone noticed that the title of this thread has changed?

Yep, since certain people thought All for Anakin meant you had to be ALL for Anakin in order to post here (which is untrue), and since this really is a fan club thread anyway, we decided to rectify/clarify the situation by changing the title. Nothing else has changed. Please feel free to continue on as normal.

 

Palpatine could have kept Anakin alive for any of the following reasons:

1. Greater control
2. Refused to lose yet another apprentice to Kenobi or any other Jedi
3. He's sadistic
4. Payment for Anakin saving his life earlier (With Mace, although I believe Palpatine had everything under control. But this is still possible)
5. He loved Anakin (In whatever way he defines love)
6. Keeping the Chosen One enslaved. If Palpatine knew about the prophecy, then it is possible he wanted to keep Anakin under his power as long as possible

There are other reasons to be sure. That's just a small list.
I personally go with #5 as well as #2.


Though I doubt Anakin liked what he became.

 

I tend to side with the Vader characterization that was used in the Star Wars Tales story where he killed Maul as well as some other recent ones where Vader is portrayed as hating himself more than or at least equal to his hatred of everything else and his servitude to Sidious is partially because he feels it's his only option. Of your list for reasons Sidious kept him alive I tend to think it's 1,3,5, and 6 however I'm not sure that Sidious believes in the Chosen One Prophecy or if he just knows about Anakin's high midi-count.

 

I guess he wouldn't want to loose another apprentice to the jedi and all tha. Though I also suppose that Anakin was speciall b/c he was so powerful. He would be agreat asset so Sidious.

Oh! M_A_S i forgot earlier...

Mace vs. Anakin....

Level 9 vs. level 9! But please Anakin in Dooku-state...

Dooku state is good! He's a little too...Dark Side-high on Mustafar. dooku state...he's rational. Not to mention HOT!




I hate a feeling that we are in a seriouse need of some pics

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Dooku state is good! He's a little too...Dark Side-high on Mustafar. dooku state...he's rational. Not to mention HOT!

Aside from the last part I agree with you. Dooku state, as you say, is good. Although, Anakin gets nice and scary when he's on a Dark Side High. It fits his character well, I think.

 

I agree, I think that an uninjured Vader who had survived Mustafar would be just frightening especially considering that simply turning made him reach level 9 I'd think that he could have possibly been the first to ever reach level 10

 

OMG! That would have been one HOT HOT HOT Sith lord!

Ok I know girl gushing but you're not gonna get away from that in here...lol.

But yea I always thought that a handsom, agsty, though very dark Sith Lord would be VERY attractive. I mean as Vader in the suit he's evil yea and that's what he's suppose to be but I love the idea of suitless Vader.

Ah! All that hair! And to see those I eyes go from pure blue to seddenly glow yellow as he enters a fit of rage! Ah! Tht would be so breath taking.

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I'd think that he could have possibly been the first to ever reach level 10


I think that's what the Emperor was counting on.
"Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us!"

Strange you say? No, he was hoping that Anakin would discover the way to cheat death. That way, he [Palpatine] could live for all time as a Force Ghost and rule his Empire forever as nothing less than a god; one with the Dark Side of the Force.

I agree, suitless Vader would be interesting to see. But the iconic breathing just makes Darth Vader and without that, well....

Edit: Cool pic.

 

Oh, I'm fully aware that I'm not going to escape gushing however I seem notice what I find to be the intimidating evil often is the very "hotness"

Oh I'd far rather have the icon that is Darth Vader over what Anakin would have become anyway (OT fan gushing ) the suit just is...awesome and is intimidating because unless you know his past you have no idea what he's thinking or even how much of him if any is human.

[image=http://simonz.web.elte.hu/wallp/anakin-mustafar.jpg] or [image=http://simonz.web.elte.hu/wallp/vader-mustafar.jpg] is what it comes down to and I have to say as far as iconic villainy I at least prefer the latter.

 

I think Luver is going to like that hooded Anakin pic


Nope I prefer Anakin...as Anakin. Ok that sounded weird but I'm an Anakin fan not a Vader fan if you know what I mean.

 

I don't doubt it though I wish I knew where they got the image from so I could see it in an actual shot not just in a wall paper

 

Hmmm...Luver might know. She likes the hoddie Anakins

You know now that I think about it...maybe it was taken from a promo shot...'cause I have like pretty much ALL the ROTS shots of Anakin/Vader and I just can't find one exactly like that.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a promo-shot, I also for some reason get the feeling that the Sith eyes were added by the one who made the wall paper as it looks similar to the shot in Luver's icon

 

That looks like a promo-shot to me. I remember most of the shots from all of the movies and the only time that could have been in the movie was when he was talking to the Emperor, as he was sort of looking up in that fashion. But the lighting cast a shadow over his face so I don't think that was a film shot.

Still very cool looking though. Makes him look extra creepy.
I agree, Darth Vader in suit works better. But it was important to see Darth Vader pre-suit in ROTS if nothing else just to see what he would have been like had he not been made extra crispy.

 

Hey! I love pre-toasted Vader.

I think Vader stayed with Palps because he?d killed everyone else & I think he hates himself more than anything or anybody else & he sees being a slave to papls as his punishment + terrorizing the galaxy is pretty cool job.


Sorry if this is off topic but I?ve been thinking about Anakin being Illegitimate. I?ve been thinking this because,

1 Awhile ago I was reading a book of Irish fairy tales ( real ones not Disneyfied ones) and often the hero?s would be the illegitimate son of some Lord ect and get chucked out of home & have to go on their own quest

2 The love story between him and Padme is similar to the courtly love stories of the middle ages ie the love token ,the dialogue, Padme being older & also a difference in class.

Class & legitimacy is not as big a deal in western society as it use to be but many legends and books of the past dwell on it as an issue of importance.
& I know Anakin was the ?son of the force? but for every day encounters he was the illegitimate slave boy from Tatooine turned Jedi Knight. How is he going to explain to you?re average Joe Slob about his parentage? Probably he?d say he doesn?t know who his father is.
Anakin goes from being a slave - Jedi Knight- Sith lord 2nd in charge of the Galaxy but he also marries a woman who is above him as far as class, education and breeding goes.
This is much like stories of the past when bastard son of such & such goes off on adventure & makes a good marriage & lives happily ever after ect.

Anyway, just a thought. I think it would be interesting if there was some epidemic class snobbery in the Republic. Make the Republic seem like a long forgotten, well structured & corrupt culture.

 

We get a sense of snobby politicos in TPM as Palpatine is talking about all the problems. But maybe a bit more would have been nice.

Interesting points with the fairy tales and the class differences. Star Wars is full of these Legend/Myth/Folklore influences. Of all types. But I had never thought of this one before. Thanks for bringing it up.

I guess the idea is love goes beyond class. That's a classic concept in fiction. I'm not sure Anakin cared overmuch about wealth. Perhaps secretly. He certainly has a greed for power though. You can see it when he's talking to Padme on Mustufar. His eyes say it all. Nice job by Hayden there. One of my favorite parts for that reason.

 

Nah I thought there was enough political stuff in SW as it was...
More Obi/Ani scenes...now THAT would have been nice...lol.
I really wish that they had left all those deleted scenes on Grivouses ship in. Actually on the comantary Lucas said that the original sequance was like an hour long so they had to cut it down. i mean I understand that if it was in the movie would have been WAY too long. But it would have been cool as a special feature in the DVD.

 

Anakin never struck me as a materialist. Maybe he's impressed by elaborate surroundings, but he never complained about not getting paid by the Jedi either . Anakin craved control and getting that control through power.

--MissPadme

 

Wow... I almost couldn't find the thread at first due to the name change. But then I realized... it's one and the same, and I'm being an idiot

Actually, Alley, I read somewhere that the original cut of ROTS was about four hours long, with, like you said, the Invisible Hand sequence lasting about an hour. A four-hour long Star Wars movie? I think I could've sat through it... but maybe that's just because I have a strangely high attention span.

Palpy560: Yeah, Star Wars is full of the myth/legend/folklore references, and I love trying to pick them out... it's a great deal of fun And I agree with darthzeppo, the Anakin/Padme love story is very medieval.

I never thought Anakin was materialistic either, MissPadme. Being a slave, he never had much during his childhood, so I wouldn't expect him to crave material things in his adult life.

 

Ooooo I'd have loved a four hour long Star Wars movie

 

Four hours of Anakin? I'm fine with that

And yea Anakin definetely wasn't matirilistic (sp?)!

 

Palpy560, I agree that there is something interesting there about the Palps/Anakin dynamic. If its not love, there's definitely a level of obsession about it, for Palps. In that turn scene, Palps gives Anakin some very strange looks there, especially when he says, "Gooood", after Anakin tells him, "I will do what ever you ask..." Apart from that, Palps has a great degree of pride in Anakin, he's helped mold him a good deal, he's invested many years and much energy in making Anakin what he is, and he must relish the fact that Anakin confides in him more than he does with his fellow Jedi. Palps is getting priveledged insights into Anakin's psyche, practically unsolicited too. In addition, he's got this powerful young man at his feet practically, and an old man, even a Sith Lord must warm to that surely to some degree. MissPadme said Anakin was not materialistic and I would agree with that, its really the power that he finds alluring. I still enjoy that scene in Stover's ROTS novelisation where Palps is promising Anakin all sorts of things, planets, systems, property, its very much a proposition scene LOL! And yes, I mention Stover here, and I also enjoyed the ROTS novelisation immensely, I actually thought it did much justice to Anakin himself, I didn't think it insensitive to him as a Man at all, or a Jedi, and very much saw that it was the Dark Side having a great influence on him coupled with his insecurities and being caught between Palps and the Jedi council that helps bring him down. As an Anakin/Obi-Wan fan, I thought Stover really captured their bond very well too, I really like the way he gets into Obi-Wan's head and how he feels about Anakin, in the movie, you lose a little coz the focus is away from what Obi-Wan's emotions are about that.

On Vader without the suit:
It's an alluring concept in many ways. I do love OT Vader, but those few hours in the ROTS time line when he was running around looking like an Adonis, though Sithed up as he was, had me sitting up in the cinema in appreciation. He looked like some Angel assassin, the killer with killer looks. End of gush.

 

i don't think Anakin is materialistic but i do think he wants a certain level of respect & power. Growing up a slave he is deprived of both these things so i can't blame him for craving them.
i think he would be very sensitive about his background.
i can just imagine those snobby & corrupt senators saying all sorts of nasty things about him behind his back & thinking it ridicules that Padme would marry him.

I think that even as Vader he hates corruption & incompetence ? just look what he does to his officers when they fail him. We think that?s cruel and sadistic but I?m sure he would rationalise it by telling himself he was ridding the Imperial Navy of morons.

 

Thanks everyone for the info about Levels and such. I actually think it's kinda silly (sorry) but I guess it helped Nick Gilliard to sort things out, so that's fine.

I'm not sure I agree fully with the idea of Palpatine "loving" Anakin, as such, but it's a very intriguing idea. I think he certainly loved the potential for POWER he could achieve through/with Anakin. And I think he would definitely enjoy having a weakened Anakin under his thumb, someone who is vulnerable and in some ways dependent. That's much easier to control than a healthy, fully mobile Anakin.

Angel assassin, the killer with killer looks

Yes. Oh yes. I think many of us wish Evil Anakin could have remained unsuited and running free, for just a little while longer. Although I agree that Vader is much more iconic of evil, at least to those of us who grew up knowing Vader first. And as much as the black suit is iconic, equally so is the beautifully powerful, incomparable Voice of James Earl Jones. Knowing Anakin's background makes some Vader scenes more poignant now, I think. I've always loved the scene with Vader and Luke talking before they confront the Emperor. Vader says "It is...too late, for me, son," with despair and a shadow of regret in his tone. Beautiful! And knowing Anakin now, it makes that line all the more effective and heart-wrenching.